Hi guys,

I've been trying in vain these last couple of days to get a good deal on the new Yeti L&K, however, so far I've come up against a brick wall.

I have used websites such as these (Drive The Deal) in the past to get a discount on my new cars although none of the final dealer discounts have ever matched them, never mind beaten them. This I'm ok with as I'm aware of the pitfalls of ordering from such places but it does at least break the ice with the dealer so we can start a haggle.

What I'm asking here is are there any good reputable dealers I can contact that are prepared to negotiate? I'm not afraid to travel afar if it means getting a much better deal. At the end of the day I can still take it to my local dealer for servicing etc as it's the one part of their business that seems to know what they're doing.

Edited 26 January, 201313 yr by fordfan

Out of idle curiosity I checked DTD and they were giving considerable discounts on L&K models

I used DTD for my purchase and was quite happy with their main dealer at the time . That may have changed since then, but I always reason that I would rather deal with the people who give the best deal up front rather than bullying someone else to get the same deal. It's a kind of reward system in my logic and I don't think at all for a minute that your local dealer would/will take umbrage at that attitude. If they did get a monk on, you can always remind them they could not match the deal you got--it is a lot of money.

I'm not sure what pitfalls you allude to--DTD is merely an introduction to a dealer who is prepared to give a decent discount--which is what you are looking for?

Simpsons skoda in Coln Lancashire were very flexible with me they offered a great px price and I even got a service deal thrown in.

They said they want to hit their targets so they are willing to do some fantastic deals.

Ask for Steve if you call them.

They will even give you a price for part ex over the phone.

Out of idle curiosity I checked DTD and they were giving considerable discounts on L&K models

I used DTD for my purchase and was quite happy with their main dealer at the time . That may have changed since then, but I always reason that I would rather deal with the people who give the best deal up front rather than bullying someone else to get the same deal. It's a kind of reward system in my logic and I don't think at all for a minute that your local dealer would/will take umbrage at that attitude. If they did get a monk on, you can always remind them they could not match the deal you got--it is a lot of money.

I'm not sure what pitfalls you allude to--DTD is merely an introduction to a dealer who is prepared to give a decent discount--which is what you are looking for?

Which dealer did you use? It used to be Marlborough, Isleworth but that's not the case now....don't know who the present one is.

It was nearly a year ago but then Hayselden at Doncaster

I've been trying in vain these last couple of days to get a good deal on the new Yeti L&K, however, so far I've come up against a brick wall.

I have used websites such as these (Drive The Deal) in the past to get a discount on my new cars although none of the final dealer discounts have ever matched them, never mind beaten them. This I'm ok with as I'm aware of the pitfalls of ordering from such places but it does at least break the ice with the dealer so we can start a haggle.

What I'm asking here is are there any good reputable dealers I can contact that are prepared to negotiate? I'm not afraid to travel afar if it means getting a much better deal. At the end of the day I can still take it to my local dealer for servicing etc as it's the one part of their business that seems to know what they're doing.

See my post below....I used Marlborough in West London and was happy there. Would use again. Very willing to do a deal. But what have Preston's, the site sponsor, said?

Edited 26 January, 201313 yr by fordfan

It was nearly a year ago but then Hayselden at Doncaster

That was quick! They could still be the chosen dealer? That's a bit of a trot from me. West London was only a couple of hours on the train and a couple of hours drive back.

Talking Fabia here but recently purchase a new MC, tried various dealers directly and the best prices I came up with by some margin where from Lee at Preston Motors (site sponsor mentioned above) and Hortons in Lincoln (Colin). Went with the later in the end as they are much closer to home but Lee was excellent particularly on the communication front

TP

Edited 26 January, 201313 yr by The Plumber

There is still a waiting list on Yetis ....why would they want to even consider a discount

If there's discounts via Dtd which effectively leaves you at the same place, dealing with a Skoda dealer and local ones won't entertain a discount I'd simply order via Dtd! I've always got dealers to match it come to within £200 of it previously but I'd have no issue buying through Dtd as I know of plenty of people that have been glad they did :-)

There is still a waiting list on Yetis ....why would they want to even consider a discount

Because some dealers are open to discussion even when there is a wait.

We ordered our car last April and had to wait 6mths for delivery, we still got a10% reduction on that and £600 off a citigo a few months later.

Lookers @ Stockport were the dealer.

Henry's in Glasgow matched dtd on fab vrs

Edited 26 January, 201313 yr by MisterS3

There is still a waiting list on Yetis ....why would they want to even consider a discount

Enjoy your salary...

Main reason I don't like using DtD is for three reasons.

Firstly, you have to pay in order to find out which dealer is offering the deal. I prefer to ring dealers myself for a chat and to get a feel of their approach to customers.

Secondly, and most importantly, you may not see your new car for a long time, depending on when your order can be fitted into said dealer's quota. This can be as long as 6 months+ but can also be closer to the 'real' lead time. It's a risk in that respect.

Thirdly, I'm not saying that all dealers are this unscrupulous but it's not unheard of for a dealer to first register your new car to them before then selling it onto the unsuspecting buyer. Although this is illegal, it doesn't stop some dealers from doing it in order to get both numbers up and be able to do the special deal price. Obviously the V5 would give it away as '2nd owner' but not everyone will look that closely.

For the reasons above, I prefer not to go thoroughly DtD directly but I do use their price as a guide when haggling.

One dealer has been great so far, offering the best price to change so far. Even so, their best offer is some £900 or so off the DtD quote of £3k on this particular model. There is a p/x involved but even taking this into account, it's the best deal I've been offered so far. My local won't even entertain getting near that quote, saying they'd be losing money on it if they did!

Edited 26 January, 201313 yr by fordfan

Main reason I don't like using DtD is for three reasons.

Firstly, you have to pay in order to find out which dealer is offering the deal. I prefer to ring dealers myself for a chat and to get a feel of their approach to customers.

Secondly, and most importantly, you may not see your new car for a long time, depending on when your order can be fitted into said dealer's quota. This can be as long as 6 months+ but can also be closer to the 'real' lead time. It's a risk in that respect.

Thirdly, I'm not saying that all dealers are this unscrupulous but it's not unheard of for a dealer to first register your new car to them before then selling it onto the unsuspecting buyer. Although this is illegal, it doesn't stop some dealers from doing it in order to get both numbers up and be able to do the special deal price. Obviously the V5 would give it away as '2nd owner' but not everyone will look that closely.

For the reasons above, I prefer not to go thoroughly DtD directly but I do use their price as a guide when haggling.

One dealer has been great so far, offering the best price to change so far. Even so, their best offer is some £900 or so off the DtD quote of £3k on this particular model. There is a p/x involved but even taking this into account, it's the best deal I've been offered so far. My local won't even entertain getting near that quote, saying they'd be losing money on it if they did!

I think that it depends on what is the most important part for you in the buying process. If it's how the dealer treats you, then fair enough, don't use DtD, but if price is the most important factor (and we are talking probably the 2nd most expensive thing you're buying after your house) then DtD makes getting the best price easier.

Personally, I don't really care too much about the "customer experience" as for three years I'll be watching the direct debit leaving my bank account and I get greater satisfaction out of knowing it is smaller than it could have been. Also the personnel change at the dealerships and the person you developed a "rapport" with might have gone the next week.

As for lead times, I doubt they're any different to that you'd get from any dealer.

Last time I bought a car, I emailed about 15 or 20 Skoda dealers with the price I had been quoted from DtD and only two bothered to even reply. One of those was Simpson Motors and after telling me that the price quoted was impossible for them to get close to, they eventually got to within £150 and I did the deal through their Colne branch. They were very good, but in truth I've not been back simply because I use a local dealer for servicing.

Just noticed that DtD quote this on the Yeti page (and for all cars in truth):

"NOTE: ALL SKODA MODELS ORDERED WITH US WILL BE SUPPLIED BRAND NEW. YOU WILL BE THE FIRST REGISTERED KEEPER. SOME COMPANIES ARE OFFERING PRE-REGISTERED CARS. WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT BUY ONE. PLEASE SEE THE NOTE ON OUR PRE-REGISTERED CARS PAGE FOR FURTHER INFORMATION."

So no worries on being second registered keeper.

Hi

Excuse my ignorance but what is DtD?

Is it possible to change my user name?

By the way there is no waiting list for YETIS in Swindon.

Edited 26 January, 201313 yr by Garry Watts

Hi

Excuse my ignorance but what is DtD?

By the way there is no waiting list for YETIS in Swindon.

It's the online Drive The Deal car selling site

I think it's about time dealers were made to be clearer on what they make on each car. Most people understand that they are in business to make money but all this haggling etc is taking the pleasure out of getting a new car. If its clear to see what profit they're making then its up to us, the consumer, to decide if the price is fair and part with our hard earned cash. I cannot beleive that there can be £3000 difference between making and losing money on a new car coming from the same factory.

Don't drive the deal state that their cars won't be pre reg??

Yes they say you will be first owner and you deal directly with the chosen Skoda dealer

I think it's about time dealers were made to be clearer on what they make on each car. Most people understand that they are in business to make money but all this haggling etc is taking the pleasure out of getting a new car. If its clear to see what profit they're making then its up to us, the consumer, to decide if the price is fair and part with our hard earned cash. I cannot beleive that there can be £3000 difference between making and losing money on a new car coming from the same factory.

Don't drive the deal state that their cars won't be pre reg??

Maybe that should apply to everything we buy?

Somehow I can't see supermarkets displaying the profit on the pricing label for every item.

It's up to the dealers to decide how much of the profit they are willing to give away to secure a sale and at different times of the month or sales quarter, they will be more less flexible on price depending on whether they're close to or above their targets.

I think it's about time dealers were made to be clearer on what they make on each car. Most people understand that they are in business to make money but all this haggling etc is taking the pleasure out of getting a new car. If its clear to see what profit they're making then its up to us, the consumer, to decide if the price is fair and part with our hard earned cash. I cannot beleive that there can be £3000 difference between making and losing money on a new car coming from the same factory.

Don't drive the deal state that their cars won't be pre reg??

Why should they tell you their "mark-up"?

No retailer, from Tesco's to the local greengrocer, has to do that, so why should a garage?

Does it really matter where the supplying dealer is? I have bought through DTD in the past and other internet retailers.

I think its part of the fun to collect a new car from a good few miles away. The warranty stands good at any other dealer and my experience has been that a non supplying local dealer will happily fix faults as they are getting paid for it.

My Yeti was supplied locally but through their internet side ..... and they picked me up from home to collect my new stead

Why should they tell you their "mark-up"?

No retailer, from Tesco's to the local greengrocer, has to do that, so why should a garage?

Quite right... I agree....but google and sites like this get pretty close.

As well as a percentage dealer also get a number of incentives on volumes sold.

By the way there is no waiting list for YETIS in Swindon.

I assume you mean that there are some new Yetis available for immediate delivery (ie; in stock with dealer). That is not the same as a factory order when you want a particular colour and extras. The average factory order time for most VAG cars is around 3 months, the Yeti being no exception and may be even longer. You could be lucky and find that the exact spec you want is "un-allocated" and has been built, or is is in stock with another dealer, in which case the dealer does a "dealer swop". Gone are the days when you could have any colour/spec from stock.

I agree, it's not that the dealers should be telling us their mark-ups but they should better explain themselves as to why they can't beat a quote that's a thousand or two less than theirs.

Different dealers have different quotas and sales tactics, usually low mark-up high volume or vice-versa. I dare say my local falls into the latter category but this is why deals vary greatly from one dealer to the next.

The lesson I've learned so far is that customer loyalty means very little to some dealers - so little that they couldn't care less if you went elsewhere to get a better deal. Something to bear in mind when looking for a new car.