I will be changing the Octavia combi 1.6 tdi soon and I thinking about going from manual to DSG.

Apart from the higher road tax, does anyone know what the difference in mpg between the manual and DSG in real terms.

Also I would be interested to know what DSG drivers like or dislike about the box.

Thanks in advance

I had a 1.9pd DSG & found it shocking on fuel, I was using it as a taxi tho.

G

Coming from a fabia vrs mk1 manual to an octy vrs with dsg. Got to say I love it

So easy to drive, a joy to use in traffic

Silky smooth gear changes

I would test drive one before deciding

Brilliant box, gives the car more get up and go than a remap and doesn't upset the insurance company ;-)

Best gearbox I have ever had by far, the changes are very very quick and so smooth

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Juan

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Edited 9 March, 201313 yr by Its me

I'm on my first ever auto with the DSG in my Octavia VRS diesel. Only have 1000 miles on it from new, but it's easily matching the fuel consumption of my BMW 120d manual (similar power to the VRS).

Absolutely loving the gearbox so far. Mostly using it in the auto modes so far as using the paddles felt a big strange at first, but I've had a couple if great B road drives in manual mode now.

first ever auto box, and love it, as already said, so smooth, not noticeable on fuel, but it's a VRS so we knew it was never going to be brilliant, especially as the wife and I like to 'make progress' when driving. Sticking it into manual and 's' is a hoot.

Sorry but the DSG gear box was not for me, infact i hated it, i recently bought a Octavia vRS diesel with te DSG box only kept it for two weeks then sold it, a pity really because the car ( apart for the box ) was great, in hind sight i would have gone for the manual. I found in normal auto mode it change far to quickly, you were in the higher gears to soon, and therefor labouring, in sport mode it dragged the changes to far, and in paddle mode the higher gears were OK but in lower gears, not smooth changes at all. Now i realise a lot of people on here love the DSG but in my humble opinion it was definately not for me. If your thinking why did you buy it in the 1st place, well because i had done a lot of reading about it and most opinions were that it was great, and i had a 20 min test drive and thought yes its great this, but living with it day in day out, me personally could not.

Brilliant box, gives the car more get up and go than a remap and doesn't upset the insurance company ;-)

Best gearbox I have ever had by far, the changes are very very quick and so smooth

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Juan

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Is your tdi a 1.6cr and if so how's the mpg?

I see your location is Warwickshire and Valencia, you don't work for Grupo Antolin by any chance?

DSG is the 8th mechanical wonder of the world......it's that good.

Are you considering a 1.6 TDI DSG or another engine?.......I ask because the 1.6 TDI and all nearly all the petrol engines use a 7 speed dry clutch DSG, whereas the 2.0 TDI uses a 6 speed wet clutch design........they effect economy differently.

I found in normal auto mode it change far to quickly, you were in the higher gears to soon, and therefor labouring, in sport mode it dragged the changes to far, and in paddle mode the higher gears were OK but in lower gears, not smooth changes at all.

Exactly my thoughts after a prolonged test drive in a furby, also found it didn't want to hold onto low gears in the paddle mode either.

Nearly went for the DSG in the octy 1.4 as that will be driven differently to how the vRS would, but even the salesman said he agreed it was the best thing since sliced bread ONCE MOVING but setting off it was not a patch on a normal auto or manual.

There are two DSG boxes used in the octy. The 2 litre engines have a 6 speed box with a wet clutch and the rest a 7 speed box with a dry clutch so depending on which one you want some of the above replies could be about the other one so may not be totally relevent?

Having an extended drive is a must.

Driven 3, in a Superb, a Fabia vRS and a Golf.

The Superb and Golf were crap, jerky when going in gear and just very unimpressive. In the vRS however it was perfect.

They are not foolproof or 100% reliable (they recon 10% will suffer from mechatronic failure @ £1,500 ish to replace)

Whatever you decide, go into it with both eyes wide open and with the relevant facts to hand, if you do lots of driving in traffic then it’s worth considering, personally I would not even contemplate owning one not covered by a warranty, fortunately I don’t do much driving in heavy traffic so the choice was easy for me.

I should say I have never driven the 7 speed dry clutch DSG.....but own a 6 speed wet clutch.

I have heard mixed reports about the 7 speed dry clutch design......most issues with DSG on this forum seem to be 7 speed boxes. My DSG is out of warranty and I don't loose any sleep about it.......as far as I can tell the 6 speed DSG is at least as reliable (if not more so) than a standard torque converter auto.

If I had a manual I'd likely be forking out for a clutch and DMF at some point.....they fail more often than mechatronic units.

Is your tdi a 1.6cr and if so how's the mpg?

I see your location is Warwickshire and Valencia, you don't work for Grupo Antolin by any chance?

Hi there, done about 8000 miles in 7 months in the car, average consumption is a measured 57.5 mpg over a real mixture of driving

On a decent run, say the 500 miles from Santander down to Santa Pola, done in about 8.5 hours usually I see around 64mpg

I gamble on stocks for a living, best "job" I ever had, packed in work 6 years ago at 54 years old and never looked back.

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Juan

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Yes it's the 1.6 CR Diesel with 7 speed DSG

Juan

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Hi there, done about 8000 miles in 7 months in the car, average consumption is a measured 57.5 mpg over a real mixture of driving

On a decent run, say the 500 miles from Santander down to Santa Pola, done in about 8.5 hours usually I see around 64mpg

I gamble on stocks for a living, best "job" I ever had, packed in work 6 years ago at 54 years old and never looked back.

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Juan

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Thanks for that Juan. Those mpg figures are about the same as my 1.6 manual, so I will arrange a test drive in a few weeks time to compare the two boxes.

My mate has a 1.6 manual, I haven't been in it although he has been in mine a few times. Our fuel consumption are pretty much identical, he allways says that mine feels a lot faster than his

Would be interested in your view after your test

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Juan

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My opinions on the DSG after driving Octavia's with the manual, 6 & 7 speed DSG (I have the vRS with 6 speed DSG)?

I personally prefer a manual 'box but that is personal choice and I don't like cars making lots of decisions for me. I know you bare asking why I chose a DSG - there were no Black line's left with a manual gearbox when I ordered mine.

That said, the DSG in the vRS is very good, D is quite lazy but brilliant for chugging around town/general driving and suits the wife nicely - it has certainly made her gear changes smoother . I prefer S for a lot of my use as it seems to be more in tune with what gear I would normally chose, however, when really giving it some welly it does seem to hold onto gears well past any useful torque or power.

The 7 speed DSG seems to be a different beast altogether and I really did not like I that all - jerky take off and far too lazy coupled to a lower power engine made the car seem even more underpowered than it was already.

Whether the DSG will suit you will depend on whether you want a manual or auto. If you really want a manual you'll not like it, if you want an auto then you'll probably love it. Me? I'm learning to drive it making the most of its strong points and that does mean flicking between D & S quite regularly in order that it doesn't go off the boil and into 5th gear halfway round a roundabout. Even with flappy paddles its not a substitute for a proper manual though - that said its great in heavy traffic so for me, its ideal for 80% of my use, I live with the compromise for the odd occasion when an empty country road presents itself and I would be happier in a manual.

We have an '06 L&K 2.0 tdi with a 6-speed DSG wet clutch gearbox.

My thoughts are as follows:

I'd never have another manual again - so much easier when inching along in a motorway tailback.

The DSG has been wholly reliable over 7 years and 40,000 miles. But it's showing some symptoms of clutch slip for a few moments after starting up on a cold morning. I hope that can be fixed - it's going in for its annual service next Tuesday and we'll find out whether it can be adjusted - often this is just a software tweak..

The gear change is fine on the move, But the pick-up from rest is jerky and not to be compared with an auto with a torque convertor. Maybe the new dry clutch models are better. Yes, they did replace the gearbox oil at the last service, which was supposed to sort things out.

However, my brother-in-law, who shared the driving on a 2,000 mile drive down to Italy and back, thought the gearbox was fantastic - and he'd been drivng a top of the range Volvo with torque convertor....

Happy with overall consumption of 41-42 mpg with bog-standard supermarket (well, Morrisons) diesel. Actually, slightly better than our '09 Smart (1 litre 3-cylinder 74 bhp).

Overall verdict: DSG very acceptable but with some quirks. New model might be better. But almost certainly better than a tedious manual....

John

7 speed in the Fabia VRS we have, it is great, when my Yeti gets replaced the next car will be DSG.

The only niggle I have with it is that it sometimes forgets to drop a gear or two, say for example you slow down to go around a sharp corner, the car will stay in 5th until you want accelerate and then it will drop one or two gears, you get used to this though and you can also use the manual option or flappy paddles.

I also like the fact it doesn't hang in low gears revving hard before it changes up like many auto boxes do.

On the whole it is really good and on the track it was excellent, on manual all day using the flappy paddles it was great.

Look at other posts in the last few days/months/years with DSG in title.

The box is excellent and a treat to drive but mine has just produced faults after seven months. See under DSG on 1.8 tsi below.

I maintain it is wisely only for people who have the luxury of switching cars in the warranty period because it is a complex piece of engineering and electronics.

Alternatively get it on a vehicle on a contract hire basis so you can switch every 3 years and avoid the risks of major outlay.

I came from a mk4 golf gti manual to an Octavia vrs with dsg and I love it. Auto D is great for pootling but if you want the manual experience you have paddles or stick. Properly tried S this week and it was the business. Like driving with paddles but without the hassle :-)

I was doubtful about autos but now I'm never going back to a manual.

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Love mine.

It changes smoothly and slowly when you want to lazily drive around, then changes super quick when you push it on.

It's very very clever.

Paddles and sport mode are.............erm..............fun.

I took a 1.6cr 7 speed DSG for a test drive and bought it.

After the first tank of fuel it's about 3 mpg down on the manual, but the second tank (shell) seems to be matching my previous manual so far. I like the box it's really smooth and a joy to drive.

I took mine up a pretty steep road climbing a mountain the other day, lots of hairpin bends, it was a joy and absolutely flew along

Far quicker than a Civic 1.8 petrol I was using last year, and much much easier

Regards all

JuN

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