My wife has recently developed a bit of a love for range rovers so as a suprise I have sort of decided to have a closer look, problem is she hates diesel so it would have to be a petrol anyone know much about them? Looking at about 2-3 year old vogue models and the main use would be for shopping and the school run (the usual habitat of these cars lol) So anyone with any real expierience of running costs parts costs etc would be appreciated

I would suggest you take her out and let her roadtest some.

You will never know its a diesel you are driving other than when paying for the fuel.

(if you put the diesel in at the pumps and keep the tank topped up so she never needs to deal with that gastly pump,

she really should be non the wiser which fuel it uses, thats not being sexist, just how the engine runs/performs.

or does she want a V8 growl?)

My next suggestion would be rather look at a Freelander 2 at 2-3 years old or rather almost new rather than a Petrol or even a Diesel powered used Range Rover.

george

I suggested the freelancer 2 but apparently it doesn't cut it, I am going to make her drive the diesel but I don't hold out much hope. She is a woman who knows what she wants!!!!!

... And make sure you keep some money in the kitty for when it goes wrong. :-( Great cars in principal and I'd also suggest trying the diesel as its very good indeed. If she is taken with a RR I'd be surprised if a Freelander would suffice?

Pistonheads did a buyers guide the other week, probably has all the information you need; http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=27046

Bossfox should be able to give you to low down on ownership.

george

Got shares in an oil company or a friendly sheik in the family?

A large petrol 4x4 is going to see mpg in the teens if not lower + £460 tax year. If you don't do many miles an older one might be a good buy since few people will want one since they cost so much to run. You'll have to think about a warranty too since they're not all that reliable.

The new ones don't seem to bad on reliability, looking at 2 year old ones from a main dealer with full extended warranty anyway so I won't get stuck with repair bills, fuel on the other hand is a concern for me as it iis for many others I don't think she quite realises how thirsty the v8 is but she earns well so it is her choice really, looking at the used stock at a dealer close to us shows a white supercharged vogue which seems to be priced really well, might shoot on and take a look

£7 every 20 miles can be the norm with any vehicle around town.

But 100 miles in a week and £35-40, or even £50 is something else.

If you want to do a nice trip of 500 miles you need to think about the difference of £175 for fuel or if its going to be £90 or less.

Most people probably need to give it a thought anyway.

george

I'm looking at the econamy now and I think she is going to have to have a re think on the diesel, sub 20mpg would require some real lifestyle changes for her, no way am I going to get stuck with that kind of fuel bill!!!!!

If she really must and does not want a diesel,

Call Chris.

He might have something interesting in his own driveway or that a customer is selling.

http://www.v8engines.com

Look in 'the Gallery.'

george

I think I'm going to have to run the numbers, I need to think re sale too and big petrol engines don't do well second hand

Forget resale if you buy a bargain and its a Keeper.

Probably never going to be able to shift it down the line anyway.

Show her a Nice Supercharged Mercedes Sports car maybe,

they are available for almost no money.

10-15 mpg does not really mater when saving 50-70 grand on the purchase price, JIMO.

george

I bought my 740i for 1200 quid. 4.4 V8...19mpg...smiles per minute..unlimited!!

petrol ones low teens knocking around town...........................

we know someone who as had a few but his latest one a 61 plate vogue tdv8 diesel we went offroading in it near skipton and doing that and then a quick blast round skipton area it quoted 26mpg which isnt bad

what it did offroad is quite unbelievable.............

on and off road very comfy and quite....yopu can hardly hear the engine

in fact we pulled up i asked for the keys and he said its running.............

Fine, just as long as they don't look like this -

http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/wheeler-dealers/videos/

If you want a petrol you'll be looking at the supercharged model, unless you want an older one.

The 4.4 petrol (V8) was phased out around 2006(ish) and the 4.2 supercharged was a better car anyway.

If you are looking at two or three years old you will probably be in the revised engine range, so the only petrol is a 5.0 supercharged.

An impressive beast that depreciates even more impressively. Expect MPG in the low teens, unless you like taking nearly 3 tonnes to 60mph in under 6 seconds... in which case you'll see single figures quite often.

The diesel engine to go for is the 4.4 TDV8. It's the same one still being used in the brand new Range Rover just released, which gives you an idea of how good it is. When this (and the 5.0s petrol) engines came in 2009/2010 they went from 6 speed to 8 auto boxes with better cruising ratios, so the 4.4 TDV8 is actually about 20% more efficent than the previous 3.6TDV8 that was introduced in 2007. Despite being more powerful.

Of course, the 4.4 TDV8 is popular as it can crack 30mpg driven carefully. So you'll be paying more than for the 5.0 Supercharged.

And yes, they do go offroad... the electronics make them quite capable, even on daft low profile tyres.

Here is mine.

The only negative is that when they redesigned the seats for the 2007 model year they made them cheaper, with less adjustment.

My 2006 one was more comfy than my 2008. Something they have not addressed until the new model that just came out.

If you are looking at Range Rovers I'd avoid the Sport too.

Unless she wants to look like a WAG.

They are also less reliable and in the Which? report were actually the worst car on the road for reliability with something like 12% of all owners breaking down last year...

RR Sport is just a Disco in drag. People who know will point and laugh so if it must be a RR get the proper one.

Disco 3 is actually a very nice car too.

That are all expensive when they go wrong. Friend has an older Disco 3 (pre tax change) and they can only keep it because her hubby is a mechanic and can do all the work himself. They love it thought. They've a TDV6 (which most of them are). 4x4 are best on derv it suits them.

Saw a newish RR Vogue 4.4 V8 derv getting lifted onto a recovery truck this morning. Owner looked none too pleased.

The trick with buying a Land Rover/Range Rover (IMO) is getting one a year or two old, so most of the bits that are going to drop off have done.

That way they have been stuck back on properly before you get it.

On this basis I've never had an unreliable Land Rover or Range Rover and have never broken down in one despite doing about 200k miles over several years.

The trick with buying a Land Rover/Range Rover (IMO) is getting one a year or two old, so most of the bits that are going to drop off have done.

That way they have been stuck back on properly before you get it.

On this basis I've never had an unreliable Land Rover or Range Rover and have never broken down in one despite doing about 200k miles over several years.

A customer of mine has just leased a brand new Discovery, would have been 44k if he bought outright.

Bonnet doesn't fit properly, massive shut line on one side, tiny on the other and you can see it moving about whilst driving. One of the rear passenger doors doesn't close properly unless you really slam it.

Thanks folks, after insisting on a petrol the first car she set eyes on was the one she wanted..... A v8 diesel because....... It is white, woman logic at its best

Vogue, Vogue SE or Autobiography?

2010 onwards with the 8 speed box and guages on a screen?

12 plate white v8, too expensive for me so I didn't even look round it lol

Thanks folks, after insisting on a petrol the first car she set eyes on was the one she wanted..... A v8 diesel because....... It is white, woman logic at its best

If you are buying from a dealer make sure they give you BOTH a free day at one of the Land Rover Experience Centres. It will be a very enlightening day!!