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A couple of questions on some mods...

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First off, eyelids. Most of you should have already seen the new clusters I've got...what do you think if I add eyelids? Painted in Black Magic of course?

Second...ECU remaps...do they in anyway affect the overall life of the engine? I've been informed I can get a remap done on the car that will give me an extra 20BHP on top of my 122BHP, I just don't want to do anything that will upset the car. Advice please.

I've decided that along with the standard system plus the extra coaxial full-range Earthquakes in the rear, I'm going to add a 10" 800W subwoofer...that's about 400W RMS, which is in my opinion a-bloody-lot for a small car..the price I was quoted includes the amplifier, the box and installation...thing is, I was offered a Rockford's sub, same size, for the same price, but only has an output of 200W RMS....now, as much as I would prefer a 200W sub because 400W is a bit much, there is no way in hell that I would pay that price (of a 400W sub, made in U.S.A)for a 200W alternative, again made in U.S.A.

I've also been told by the Skoda dealer that instead of fitting the amp in the back, I could fit it under my seat...there's a flap that's removeable, he said it would be much easier running the cable thru there, AND because there are rear AC vents under the seats for the rear passengers, it would help keep the amp cool..so I'm gonna do that :D

Let me know about the 1st 2 paragraphs please :D I very much value all your advice.

to ur eye brow comment.......u drawing them on???? or painting them??? arnt you going to get the ones that are actual bits of plastic and then spray them...? i think eyebrows r nice tho if there just painted on the lights it will look a bit shoddy

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No man I was talking about proper pieces of plastic. Thanks for a pointer though :thumbup:

I think eyebrows look ok, might be an idea to use the front photo of your car and try and photoshop a set on to see what they will look like before spending money

Second...ECU remaps...do they in anyway affect the overall life of the engine? I've been informed I can get a remap done on the car that will give me an extra 20BHP on top of my 122BHP' date=' I just don't want to do anything that will upset the car. Advice please.

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Looking at your signature I see you have a 2.0 litre which must imply you are driving a petrol N.A car. 20bhp from a chip, yes on a TDI but not a 2.0 N.A. Petrol I think the person or company you are getting it from is exaggerating a little TBH. :o

If you have the amp under your seat, its all well and good in the summer when you got the a/c pumping out, but what about in the winter when you got the hot air coming out? :eek:

If you have the amp under your seat, its all well and good in the summer when you got the a/c pumping out, but what about in the winter when you got the hot air coming out? :eek:

I suppose it's just cheap heated seats he's after ;)

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Sofung, we do not need heated seats in this country. The average temperature is 45 degrees celsius, and in winter it only drops to about 12 degrees celsius max.

Chavvyboy, The company I got this figure from guaranteed 20BHP. It does not sound like an exaggerated figure to me, 30BHP does. For a TDI it should be easy to get at least 30BHP from a remap. They are one of the few companies here in Dubai that do remaps.

The company I got this figure from guaranteed 20BHP. It does not sound like an exaggerated figure to me, 30BHP does. For a TDI it should be easy to get at least 30BHP from a remap. They are one of the few companies here in Dubai that do remaps.

You got a link to this company? I'm currently looking at N/A cars and would be interested to see how they achieve this - most of the tuners here seem to claim 5-10% gains, and that's only if you run it on 97/98 RON fuel..... :D

Personally, I wouldn't bother with the eyebrows or the ICE - just adding unnecessary weight which will cancel out your increased bhp ;)

Chris

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I think I'll forget the eyelids, I'm gonnatake the sub though, I really want some low end to fill the sound up inside. I'll see if the box can be made with extra lightweight material to hold the driver...

The website of Performance Motorsports...

www.performanceclub.net

You got a link to this company? I'm currently looking at N/A cars and would be interested to see how they achieve this - most of the tuners here seem to claim 5-10% gains' date=' and that's only if you run it on 97/98 RON fuel..... :D

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Exactly no way 20bhp, they would have to do some engine work as well as a chip WILL not increase it by that much.

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This is the same person I bought my springs from dude, I've known him for quite a long time. I do not think he would give me a false figure. We have some seriously fast modified cars in this country, mainly done by Performance and another Tuning shop.

I'd go with a 10% figure, there is only so much you can do with a N/A engine on the ECU front.

Chavvyboy' date=' The company I got this figure from guaranteed 20BHP. It does not sound like an exaggerated figure to me, 30BHP does. For a TDI it should be easy to get at least 30BHP from a remap. They are one of the few companies here in Dubai that do remaps.[/quote']

Remaps on NA engines will typically give you a 10% increase.....so your engine give 122bhp so expect a 12bhp increase.

I had a 1.8 20v NA reampped by AmD.....standard was 125bhp, remap gave 136bhp.

20bhp...I think it a little optimistic TBH.

You will get more from doing tradtional mods...porting head, flowing manifolds etc....it's expensive though due to labour involved.

Remaps on NA engines will typically give you a 10% increase.....so your engine give 122bhp so expect a 12bhp increase.

I had a 1.8 20v NA reampped by AmD.....standard was 125bhp' date=' remap gave 136bhp.

20bhp...I think it a little optimistic TBH.

You will get more from doing tradtional mods...porting head, flowing manifolds etc....it's expensive though due to labour involved.[/quote']

Cheers Adrian I was trying to explain this as well. :D

people here with ford focus 1.8's do all sorts, intake, full system, manifold, de-cat, re-map and get maybe 140bhp from 115bhp standard.

20bhp does sound a little high for N/A remap alone, and if he puts it on a rolling road to show you then he could make it show you virtually anything within reason

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I was told that with a remap, a cold-air intake and free flow exhaust system I could get a figure of 165BHP. How those focuses din't get much is weird, but Jaics (the manager) told me I could get 165BHP making these mods...

isn't the 2.0 115bhp standard???

no way it would gain 50bhp from intake, exhaust and chip.

would be needing new cams and head work for that sort of gain

So, a 40% increase on a N/A engine with a chip, an intake and a zorst?

Are these extra horses the fully grown European variety or are they smaller, less powerful ones?

I would expect to see around 20bhp with the ECU, cold air feed and exhaust but not just the ECU without the other mods.

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Why do you guys think it's only possible to get only a 20% increase with all these mods together? I mean all I'm missing is turbo. The vRS is a turbo diesel and they claim crazy bhp gains from just remaps? Why? A professional is the one who gave me these figures, just because I have an N/A car doesn't make it difficult for it to gain a lot.

A free-flow system, from engine to the a**, plus a cold-air intake with the filter I already have, plus an ECU remap. A remap. The same kind of remap you would get on a TDi. And it's a petrol for crying out loud.

The point is I'm getting these figures from professionals. This whole thing with most of you telling me I can't get these gains is very annoying and it's really putting me down. Sorry if I seem like I'm attacking you, I just really despise the way most you put down the 2.0 petrol, and on top of that tell me I can't do much with it.

Yes it's an N/A, and mods are limited but not to the extent you guys put it to. Remember that if the Fabia vRS had no turbo, it wouldn't move.

Again, sorry for the lash out, but if you were in my position, you'd feel the same way.

Why do you guys think it's only possible to get only a 20% increase with all these mods together? I mean all I'm missing is turbo.

One of the main things a remap does, IIRC, is increase the boost pressure of the turbo - which is where most gains are seen, as the higher pressure air expands more on combustion, etc.

Which doesn't happen with an N/A engine, as there's no way to increase the pressure the air into the engine using a remap. Only things you can do really are up the fuelling a bit and mess around with the timing. Neither of which are likely to get you gains of much over 10%, and even that's if you're lucky.

And I'm not dissing the 2.0, I drive an N/A 1.6, I've looked into just about every remap that's offered for it and the gains really aren't that great ever...

Rob.

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Yes, but I'm talking remap, full exhaust and intake. Why would that prevent me from getting another 50BHP?

And where are you from?

Your engine tuner is probably very good and I sincerely hope that he can give you the gains which he has promised (and I'm sure he will on his rollers.)

I for one do not have a problem with the 2.0 petrol engine, I think it is great it is after all the same as used in the Golf GTI.

As has been pointed out to you on here in this thread: gaining over 50BHP on a N/A car with a remap an exhaust and an induction kit is not credible. If you had said he was going to do the cams and port the head as well, then I'd be inclined to go with what he said. Oh and with a turbo it is a shedload easier to make big power gains.

We are just looking out for you, in a way, no-one wants you (or anyone else for that matter) getting ripped off.

Peace.

Yes, but I'm talking remap, full exhaust and intake. Why would that prevent me from getting another 50BHP?

Because all you're doing is allowing the air to flow more easily in-to and out-of the engine - I doubt it's especially restrictive as standard though, otherwise the engine would run pretty rough. To get gains of 50% of engine power, you'd have to increase the density of the fuel/air mix going into the engine...

And where are you from?

The UK - if there was someone out there offering 50bhp increases from NA engines for the cost of an intake/exhaust/remap, I suspect the technology would be available over here, and I'd have bought it... :D

Rob.

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