Am torn between these 2 options, I love the look and small dimensions of the Fabia as well as the fact that it will cost about 2k less to buy than a Mk6 GTi second hand but I can't help thinking that actually the Golf would be a better buy as it is likely to maintain it's value and probably be a more complete car to drive, has anyone on here had experience of both? Am also worried about the reliability of the Fabia twincharger engine and DSG box but I bet it is so much fun to drive!

Gti every time!

Will hold its money better

However, you're talking about a two-year-old Golf (with say 25 on the clock) for the price of a new Fabia vRS. You can also take a five-year warranty on the Fabia. Unless I needed the bigger car I'd go for the Fabia.

The Fabia is so cheap, what does it matter what it's worth after five years?

Golf is reliable

1.4 tsi is a complete dog of an engine! Only buy a 1.4tsi if you have shares in Castrol

http://magazine.utvd...-vrs-review.htm

If you are going to be spending £15,000, i would go roadtest a vRS Twincharger and get an idea what you can get as a new car,

with a 5 year Manufactures Warranty, (insurance is cheap on the vRS, £140 Road Tax.)

Then Drive some 3-4 year old £15,000 - £16,000 GTI's .

Down to what you fancy.

george

Golf is reliable

1.4 tsi is a complete dog of an engine! Only buy a 1.4tsi if you have shares in Castrol

I've had mine for two years - no issues.

7 speed |DSG is reliable, and a skoda master tech told me its the best DSG VAG have done so far.... only failures we've ever had on here were broken from the start...... otherwise no failures if they start working well... mine has just done 50k and still drives like new

and my engine uses no oil. I'm so impressed I'm buying another one

I'd have no qualms about buying another one either.

both will undoubtedly be nice to drive but the mkVI GTI looks so much nicer. is the Fabia still torsion bar at the rear?

Am torn between these 2 options, I love the look and small dimensions of the Fabia as well as the fact that it will cost about 2k less to buy than a Mk6 GTi second hand but I can't help thinking that actually the Golf would be a better buy as it is likely to maintain it's value and probably be a more complete car to drive, has anyone on here had experience of both? Am also worried about the reliability of the Fabia twincharger engine and DSG box but I bet it is so much fun to drive!

If you like having manufacturer's warranty then leaning to the Fabia makes sense.

I am presuming you are looking at a Golf a couple of years old so it would only have a short bit of manufacturers warranty on it.

Fabia is Polo sized of course and hence also does Polo levels of fuel consumption ie low 40s rather than A3, Leon, Octavia, Golf warm petrol engined consumption levels of more like mid to upper thirties mpg.

Our Fabia VRS uses very little oil. Now on Variable servicing and so pleased with it. Our Octavia VRS, yes does 150 instead of 140 but the acceleration is pretty similar but the Fabia fuel consumption is much better.

The Octavia boot is much bigger than the Fabia or Golf and the Octavia has a higher top speed but is a couple of tenths slower to 100 kph.

Both VAG cars so both pretty good. IMO Golf, and the A3 and Leon, are over-priced compared to the Skodas due to the fact they are produced in the Euro area.

The prices of all this cars could crash if the Euro zone crashes from 88p to 58p per Euro where it was before.

Edited 4 May, 201313 yr by lol

The Golf will have already lost around £8,000 if you get one for £15,000

So a New Fabia vRS with 2 years Extended Warranty bought for £15,000, & 3 year service deal.

if it lost £2,000 for 5 years. will need 2 MOT's

This will leave you with a 5 year old & a value of £5,000 min & would have been fun.

60,000 on the clock say.

3 Year old Golf needing its first MOT now & 5 more, maybe 22,000 Miles min on the clock.

@ 8 years old & 82,000 miles on the clock, maybe worth the £5,000 or so as well.

Also fun.

Not so sure that anyone can say that the used GTI is going to be worth more than the vRS if keeping both for 5 years.

george

Yeah but its a golf gti!

Its a cool car! The fabia really isnt a cool car in the slightest

Why does everyone not buy or want to buy a Golf if they are so cool?

Do you have a Golf GTI?

Post #2,

you said it will hold its money better.

Maybe, maybe not.

Its probably going to cost you to be 'Cool', More on Fuel, Road Tax, Maintenance.

george

I wouldn't want a 'cool' car. Anyway, everyone and their auntie has a Golf, so I fail to see what's 'cool' about it.

Even with a Cool Car out of Manufacturers Warranty, you might want a Warranty of some kind when splashing 15 grand or more

Maybe more so than others when it is VAG Vehicles!

http://www.autoexpre...engine-failures

Even with a Cool Car out of Manufacturers Warranty, you might want a Warranty of some kind when splashing 15 grand or more

Maybe more so than others when it is VAG Vehicles!

http://www.autoexpre...engine-failures

Aye, there was a lassie on the Scirocco forum who had engine failure (2.0 petrol) just out of warranty - £5k!

The Golf is a 'better' car, but then that's reflected in the list prices for both cars. I thought about a Golf GTi two years ago when I bought the Fabia - I went to look at a MKV GTi, which was priced roughly the same as my Fabia, except it was four years older and had 50-odd thousand on the clock!

Why does everyone not buy or want to buy a Golf if they are so cool?

Do you have a Golf GTI?

Post #2,

you said it will hold its money better.

Maybe, maybe not.

Its probably going to cost you to be 'Cool', More on Fuel, Road Tax, Maintenance.

george

Nope

The missus has a mk5 gt and my mates just got a mk6 gtd!

And i want one!!

GTD, that will be like a Golf GTI but with a Diesel.

Like in the Advert

Looks like a Golf, because it is a Golf, just not a Golf GTI.

So really just more practical than actually Cool then.

Golf for me....much better car in ALL departments

But in terms of value v build quality and 'coolness'.... I would get a vRS

Golf for me....much better car in ALL departments

But in terms of value v build quality and 'coolness'.... I would get a vRS

So why did you buy 2 skodas after defecting to Honda for x years

I had the same quandry and bought a 4 year old S3.

I understand the owners of the vRS defending their purchases.

It's only the ones that have had nothing but trouble with theirs who

will publicly come out and say they made the wrong choice.

For me it came down to getting a better car for the money.

(note I said better not newer) and that my 17k investment will still

kick me back at least 14k when I sell in a couple of years.

My car has already done the bulk of it's depreciation.

I would have lost a lost more money overall from buying a new car

and running that for 3 years. And the fact is there is the well documented

reliability issue. I think the 1.4tsi is pushed too hard to get that

level of performance. 180bhp from a 1.4 is a lot.

Just the same as 265bhp is a lot from a 2.0 TFSI but in the case of the S3

the engine has also been strengthened over a regular tfsi to cope with being

wound up so high and to make it reliably high powered.

That's where I think they fell down with the 1.4tsi.

They are too highly tuned for what they are and that makes some of them

a bit 'iffy'. I think the performance variant of this engine could benefit from

being given stronger guts which in turn will make it a better candidate for further

tuning. Just my opinion of course.

Fun tho,

and the 3 owners of Twinchargers in this thread so far are not Defending them, they are expressing their opinions and experiences of them.

& saying they would have another, and some have or are going to.

Also i have had a S3 & a GTI and will probably again,

you learn what the down side is of them, because every car has a downside..

S3's and GTI's can be bought cheap just like Twinchargers can.

All that glitters and all that..

Out of Manufacturers Warranty can be a killer with residuals.

george

GTD, that will be like a Golf GTI but with a Diesel.

Like in the Advert

Looks like a Golf, because it is a Golf, just not a Golf GTI.

So really just more practical than actually Cool then.

What are you banging on about?

Id personally rather have a gtd than a gti! Will be worth waay more than a gti in a few years

Think your a bit sore on my comments!

And the missus gt tsi 170 1.4l had a full engine rebuild at 40k along with 2nd gear synchromesh! Not good at 40k

Aye, there was a lassie on the Scirocco forum who had engine failure (2.0 petrol) just out of warranty - £5k!..

This is the same engine thats fitted to the MK6 Golfs, the camchan tensioner fails, timing chain jumps, valves contact the pistons, goodbye engine. It usually happens on start up before the oil pressurises the camchain tensioner. It should be held on a ratchet until the oil does its job but the ratchet fails. sometimes you can preempt the failure, sounds like a noisy starter motor, but once the timing jumps, thats it.

You may be wondering why I seem to know a bit about this....the engine is the same (ccz) as fitted to the VRS Octavia, 2009 onwards. one of which I own and yes you've quessed it, the engine is fooked. 12 weeks out of warranty. Skoda VAG deny there is a problem, despite a revised tensioner being available I can't be doing with the stress of it all so repairing at my own cost and moving on from VAG products, pretty sharpish. Advising others to do the same including our lease car dept who run a huge fleet of cars (NHS) Been an avid fan of VAG products having owned three new octavia vRS's since 2007, time to move on me thinks.