Well the cars are designed to run on michelins , and there are differences in the way they behave so it wouldn't be as safe as it should be (though safer than running on exploding tyres) and it would also have breached the rules which ferrari wouldn't have accepted.

What a joke, so many freaking rules, let them have turbo's back and have 1500 horsepower, let them do 250 mph.

I think there was a major plus in the race though, and unknown got probably the only podium he will in his life, did you see how made up he was?

Just heard on the news that the FIA have ordered all teams that declined to race to appear before them.

The cars ar designed with and around the tyres so switching brands would not have been possible. The race should have been cancelled.

Why would the FIA want to see the teams that declined to race, all the teams wanted to race, but not at the cost of human life, what could they have done? It was up to the FIA to resolve the situation which they completely failed to do.

That's not FIA's job. It's maintaining the rules, however silly and lacking a backup plan as they are and do.

The seven teams that opted out are squarely to blame, as they chose to fight out their GPWC-inspired power struggle with the FIA over the backs of the US race fans - and Michelin. They could have run slower through turn 13, handicapped as they were by their tyres (as in other occasions they might have been by a faulty gearbox or another mechanical failure) and we'd still have had a race. The inclusion of a untested chicane half an hour before the start of a race was ludicrous - talk about safety! - and would have hurt the Bridgestone runners as well, who had no part in Michelin's mistake.

Yes, it was a sad day for F1 - not just because we had a farce instead of a race, but also because the sport allowed itself to have politics poison a race, instead of keeping the quibble off-track and behind closed doors.

And don't blame Bernie on this occasion. As the commercial rights holder he is the first to suffer over this - he wanted a proper solution as much as any fan.

Sadly, I can't see an easy way out. I'd hate to see the teams and manufacturers win this, as I don't see any future in a manufacturer-run series. These have always failed (remember the ITC or the first FIA GT incarnation?) and will always do, as manufacturers are in it for the money instead of the sport. And can you imagine Arsenal and Man Utd deciding on football rules? It's just not their job.

On the other hand I can see that there are hardly any supporters left for Max Mosley and the warring fashion in which he is running the FIA. His ideas for the new-for-2008 F1 might be brilliant for the fans, but they are detrimental to the manufacturers and most of the teams hate his guts anyway.

So I can't see this going anywhere sensible. If Mosley steps down, the teams will take over, with all the negative consequences that go with manufacturer-run championships. And I can't see big egos like Mr Dennis or big mouths like Mr Stoddart give in or resign, so I'm afraid F1 is heading for self-destruction. If it hasn't done so already this weekend.

Formula one showed its self up for what it is at the weekend a load of crap.

Too much money and too much hype. I would rather watch snails race than suffer this so called motor sport it

I can't believe that some of you are blaming the FIA, Bernie and even Ferrari!! WTF!!!

The blame 100% lies with Michelin and the advice it gave to the 7 teams..

Who would not accept a reduced speed limit unless the Bridgestone teams followed this to ensure that they did not disappear into the distance!!!...

HOW is this fair? for Ferrari, Jordon or Minardi who all had tyres that were upto the job?

Imagine Football where Man U give all there players super duper new boots

that cripple there feet 10 mins into a game.. Knowing this..then want the other team to wear them so to cripple them as well.....

It would not happen!!!...

Oh on the subject of F1 being crap blah blah them some of you need to take a hard look at the god awful junk that is football, overpaid boys and coverage that rules TV!!! Conduct of players and so called fans who use it

as an excuse for a riot!!! Very good!!!

If you don't like F1 then DON'T watch it!

Dazz

I can't believe that some of you are blaming the FIA' date=' Bernie and even Ferrari!! WTF!!!

The blame 100% lies with Michelin and the advice it gave to the 7 teams..

Who would not accept a reduced speed limit unless the Bridgestone teams followed this to ensure that they did not disappear into the distance!!!...

HOW is this fair? for Ferrari, Jordon or Minardi who all had tyres that were upto the job?

Imagine Football where Man U give all there players super duper new boots

that cripple there feet 10 mins into a game.. Knowing this..then want the other team to wear them so to cripple them as well.....

It would not happen!!!...

Oh on the subject of F1 being crap blah blah them some of you need to take a hard look at the god awful junk that is football, overpaid boys and coverage that rules TV!!! Conduct of players and so called fans who use it

as an excuse for a riot!!! Very good!!!

If you don't like F1 then DON'T watch it!

Dazz [/quote']

I don't watch F1 any more and yes football is crap.

I can't believe that some of you are blaming the FIA' date=' Bernie and even Ferrari!! WTF!!!

The blame 100% lies with Michelin and the advice it gave to the 7 teams..

Who would not accept a reduced speed limit unless the Bridgestone teams followed this to ensure that they did not disappear into the distance!!!...

HOW is this fair? for Ferrari, Jordon or Minardi who all had tyres that were upto the job?

Imagine Football where Man U give all there players super duper new boots

that cripple there feet 10 mins into a game.. Knowing this..then want the other team to wear them so to cripple them as well.....

It would not happen!!!...

Oh on the subject of F1 being crap blah blah them some of you need to take a hard look at the god awful junk that is football, overpaid boys and coverage that rules TV!!! Conduct of players and so called fans who use it

as an excuse for a riot!!! Very good!!!

If you don't like F1 then DON'T watch it!

Dazz [/quote']

I agree the blame lies solely with Michelin for not providing suitable tyres however the FIA and Ferrari's lack of flexibilty should also be recognised.

Had they allowed a chicane the perhaps we would have had a race.

I do love F1 and watch every possible race - thats why I wanted to see race race on Sunday, not a farce.

I was just thinking that. F1 was just getting more interesting again, with non-Ferrari teams doing well.

Annoyingly you had the BAR thing, and a few more things similar to that.

Let's hope the racing will commence again.

@ Stu, its a very complicated matter (obviously lol) but i just want to say that building a chicane was not possible!

Every minor detail of the track is mapped out and approved, you can't just decide to build a chicane on a 200mph banked curve hours before the race! If a driver crashed into it and was injured or worse the legal implications would be huge :thumbdwn:

Why is it down to Ferrari? They had done there bit.. Why should they be penalised for Michelins mistake... More importantly would the Michelin teams

allowed a chicane if the issue had been with Bridgestone..??

This is between the FIA / Michelin/Mclaren, Williams etc....

Also the cars would have the correct tyres, downforce, brakes etc for this circuit.... Not a revised circuit with a chicane on the fastest section of the track...

Dazz

As has been said before, there was no easy solution to the weekend's F1 side show. My view is that the race should have been postponed until suitable tyres were on site and fitted to all the affected cars. Building a chicane wasn't the answer, and watching 4 unknowns battle for third place shouldn't have been an option either. I couldn't believe what I was watching. I gave up in the end. I can't imagine how the crowd must have felt, as they are huge fans of motor sports and can only have felt cheated. I'm fairly certain that the USA won't be on the calander next year.

The only right decision of the day was not to race on tyres having been advised not to do so.

F1 has never been the same since Ayrton Senna's days battling for track space with Nigel Mansell.

Sadly, another nail in F1's coffin.

Warning....Ranting Below:

As for the small minded one who slated F1, i would aim your views at whoever is making you watch it against your will if you feel that strongly about it.

I don't like football, or many sports for that matter, so instead of watching them and complaining how dull I think they are, I do the things I like doing. It makes your life so much better. Football? a mans game? all hugging and kissing cos 11 of them managed to get a little ball in a huge net? then showering together and wearing earings, and womens underwear? a mans game?

I'm in agreement with Shifty. The Michelin tyres were dangerous with the possibility any car from over 2/3rds of the grid crashing out at 190mph+ on the banking due to an expoding tyre. It would have been unsafe and irresponsible to race with this known problem. We saw the damage caused then it happened to Ralf this year and last and don't forget the guy got spinal injuries from it in 2004.

I'm shocked that the FIA would have let the race proceed and that Ferrari and Jordan were prepared to risk their drivers and cars. I think it actually stands for something in this corparate run world that Michelin and their teams/manufacturers felt obliged to withdraw on safety grounds as the regulators of the sport wouldn't act.

I'm in agreement with Shifty. The Michelin tyres were dangerous with the possibility any car from over 2/3rds of the grid crashing out at 190mph+ on the banking due to an expoding tyre. It would have been unsafe and irresponsible to race with this known problem. We saw the damage caused then it happened to Ralf this year and last and don't forget the guy got spinal injuries from it in 2004.

I'm shocked that the FIA would have let the race proceed and that Ferrari and Jordan were prepared to risk their drivers and cars. I think it actually stands for something in this corparate run world that Michelin and their teams/manufacturers felt obliged to withdraw on safety grounds as the regulators of the sport wouldn't act.

Ferrari, Jordan and Minardi all use Bridgestones which were not affected....

Ferrari, Jordan and Minardi all use Bridgestones which were not affected....

and :confused:

I wonder how keen the drivers on the Bridgestone shod cars were to drive wheel to wheel at 190mph on the banked turn against 14 other cars that could suffer tyre failure?

Accidents like this are a part of F1 and nature of the beast... I would imagine

they would not relish the thought... Some of the Michelin shod drivers still

wanted to go racing.. Including DC and Montoya.... They would have understood the risks involved...

If the Mclarens and BAR's were limited to say 140mph instead of 190+

then that poss would have been more of a danger as the quicker cars would have had to pass them...

Dazz

Paul Stoddart get it off your chest,

http://members.chello.nl/e.beurskens/Stoddart_Interview.mp3