Only thing is doing springs alone will end up too bouncy, it did for me after a while and you will end up needing/wanting uprated dampers lol.

Theyve been on around 18 months..not bouncy yet

Only thing is doing springs alone will end up too bouncy, it did for me after a while and you will end up needing/wanting uprated dampers lol.

No more bouncy than before the upgrade on mine (one year on) - although I did replace the existing OE shocks (they had covered almost 100k miles) with the basic Bilstein B4's which are pretty close to OE spec.

If it's a daily family hack don't bother. You will regret it forever more and a day... Simples.

Usually I'd agree with you, especially with some of the dreadful kits out there.

However, the Bilstein B12 kit is much better than the factory fitted sports suspension option and also a lot better than stock suspension over bumps and in handling terms.

Bear in mind this was changed, due to it all being worn, however on a direct back to back comparison (done by the owner of the sports suspension fitted elegance) it was a lot better.

The eibach springs seem to work really well with the bilstein B6 or B8 shocks, although how the work with OEM shocks is another matter.

I'd say, go and get either the full kit from bilstein or don't bother.

If things are a bit harsh, and the shocks/springs are in good nick, then it's worth looking at the top bushes and other bushings.

I Echo above.

Thanks kb, exactly what I wanted to hear. My wife had them on her old gt tdi and they were great.

Where she works, they have been offered the springs cheap so like you say it would be rude not to.

Will give the insurance co a call and see what difference it would make. I think lowering the car helps the overall look and to be fair the current springs are pretty stiff so I'm sure I won't notice a huge amount other than the look and maybe fuel consumption?

Worth finding out the Skoda part number - there is bound to be a 1Z number from a Skoda dealer. Give that to your insurance company and they *might not* add to your premium if it's listed as a Skoda part. I say *might not* but it's still a mod, so they might anyway!

Id look at lowering it on a set of second hand vRS suspension. Best of both worlds then. Still tres comfy, still OEM quality but also lower and better to look at.

Id bet someone on here would be up for selling some to free up some cash.

I've got a full set of vRS TFSI suspension boxed in my cellar off my car. I don't think it's noticeably lower than some of the non-vRS cars tbh. This is my car on the Bilsteins vs a Standard vRS. Terrible pic, couldn't stand far enough back!

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Mine are PI springs...made by the firm that make Eibach incedentlly

I have retained the standard shocks and they work really well together

I've literally just this last week put the Bilstein B12 kit on my '06 Sport (and had a 4 wheel alignment done), the B12 kit is brilliant and uses the same Eibach 30mm lowered springs that I think you're talking about.

Initial thoughts on first drive were that the car now feels like I always thought it should have - not too stiff, just nicely firm firm and a much more positive feel to the way it handles. I chucked on 2 new RainSport 2's at the same time on the rear and the car now sticks to the road like poo to a blanket.

The lowering over standard is barely noticeable, certainly doesn't look like it's been dropped on it's arse, and doesn't drive like it either. I think the ride is actually more comfortable than on the original shocks and springs, but I suspect that's because the original shocks were completely knackered. If you're just doing the springs, you may well find that you need some better dampers in there pretty sharpish if yours are anything like mine were...

Update on my lowered estate: have had issues with sawtoothing recurring on the OSR & now its also on the NSR - and worse that side.

It's currently sat at 1.3 degrees (Skoda suggest 1.4, the specialists use 1.2 on non-lowered cars on this platform) which may suggest it has settled from 1.2 to 1.3 degrees in the past 12 months.

They will be moving it to 1.1 degrees as they feel the springs are not the right ones and the back end is sitting too low (I don't carry heavy weights that often).

If course it could just be the Dunlop tyres (c.12k miles in them) that may be prone to sawtoothing.

It could be that the springs are not stuff enough. The specialist has checked with Eibach and it is the correct part, but (slim possibility) the springs may not be up to standard...

The moral (if there is one): get the geometry aligned after fitting and checked again 6 months later by a specialist who knows about the issues on this platform and also how lowering affects the geometry.

I run mine at utterly random, albeit always more than stock, camber and have never had a tire wear problem.

I wore some Falkens out on the inside edges, but was expecting it.

I've used the same set of 18" Kumho winters for 3 long winters now and they're barely worn and are totally even.

I'm currently back on the original set (that came with the car) of Michelin Pilot Exaltos on the rear. The damn things just refuse to wear. They're over 5 years old and well over 40k miles I reckon.

Moral of the story - Buy Michelins. Or, weirdly, Kumho winters!

The guy suggested Michelins as he sees far fewer of these with issues that any other brand.

I now know Dunlops are more prone to it than other brands. Time for a switch...

Cheers for all the responses. Told the wife about the slight hike in insurance and she has now gone off the idea :think: I give up! She was the one that text me about it!!!

In other news she likes a customers 2.4l Accord estate she is driving. Nothing wrong with my Skoda, the Accord is 4 years older, petrol and has leather seats but it was only £5000 and it's nearly done 100,000 miles where the Skoda was bought with 30,000. Women

Mine are PI springs...made by the firm that make Eibach incedentlly

I have retained the standard shocks and they work really well together

I'd like to see some evidence for that statement, as I can't say I believe it.

As for the car and the accord... Just get full leather seats in the skoda and I bet she'd like that too.

Just have to convince her.

Obviously, the insurance might go up a bit due to the suspension kit fitted at the same time "leather" (and it might sit a touch touch lower due to all the extra weight of the leather ;) )

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Told the wife about the slight hike in insurance and she has now gone off the idea ..

If you read that back to yourself you'll see where you made the error

I find it much easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission..

lmao

Yea I didn't think that although having finished paying for the car, thought it would be nice to be in the black for a while and then she emails me that!

As for the leather, she doesn't like leather as it is too cold or too hot, I did laugh at her as that was what put me off getting an L&K or superb, like I say, woman!

Anyway the skoda is MY car and I love it so she can have her Jazz and on the odd occasion drive something nice like an Accord, S2000, EP4, DC5, 350Z, etc

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Anyway the skoda is MY car and I love it so she can have her Jazz and on the odd occasion drive something nice like an Accord, S2000, EP4, DC5, 350Z, etc

There we go...

http://www.bilstein.de/en/experience-bilstein/highlights/jazz-we-can/

If the Skoda's YOUR car then just lower it and pay the insurance adjustment yourself

I'd like to see some evidence for that statement, as I can't say I believe it.

As for the car and the accord... Just get full leather seats in the skoda and I bet she'd like that too.

Just have to convince her.

Obviously, the insurance might go up a bit due to the suspension kit fitted at the same time "leather" (and it might sit a touch touch lower due to all the extra weight of the leather ;) )

Suit yourself mate......Thats what I was told.

I'm more than happy with mine

If the Skoda's YOUR car then just lower it and pay the insurance adjustment yourself

It's not as simple as that, we pay for everything together as that's how I see marriage and we aren't supposed to be spending money as she is only working twice a week (childcare is stupidly expensive) so we are trying to reduce costs which is why I thought it was odd she told me about them in the first place.

I'm not quite sure what she thought the springs would do to my insurance, but it wasn't something I was looking at until she mentioned it. I will stick with it as it is, save my money and when the children are at school and my wife is working full time I will hopefully be able to afford something that is already lowered and better than an Accord well in my eyes at least

Mine are PI springs...made by the firm that make Eibach incedentlly

I have retained the standard shocks and they work really well together

Find that hard to believe. Have used both companies in the past and eibach are far superior. Pi springs were harsh.

As said ...It was what I was told...BTW mine dont feel harsh at all

Suit yourself mate......Thats what I was told.

I'm more than happy with mine

I could tell you that and there'd be no truth in it.

As far as I'm aware Eibach have their own facilities to make springs.

Now if you're telling me that they're made elsewhere and have some evidence that means we can see PI are made by them to the same spec, then that's good. If you do have this, then I'm sure we'd all be very interested in getting some quality springs at a lower price.

Anyway the skoda is MY car and I love it so she can have her Jazz and on the odd occasion drive something nice like an Accord, S2000, EP4, DC5, 350Z, etc

I test drove an Accord estate when I was looking for my last car. Was a 2.4L Type-S - nice car and masses of space. I say 'drove', it was more like captaining a ship.