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car is 1.8 petrol estate auto.

Manual is a bit confusing on what to top up with.

What do you recomend please?

Are you on longlife or fixed service intervals?

505.01 5w30 is probably the best oil to use, 506/507 is really diesel oils to protect the cams and dpf.

car is 1.8 petrol estate auto. Manual is a bit confusing on what to top up with. What do you recomend please?

I filled my with Shell Helix Ultra AV-L 5W-30 to be exact http://www.shell.co.uk/gbr/products-services/on-the-road/consumer-lubricants-tpkg/cars/find-right-car-oils/helix-ultra/ultra-extra.html (or try your number plate here: http://lubematch.shell.co.uk/search.php?sector=1&site=58&region=274&language=5&brand=109 )

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505.01 5w30 is probably the best oil to use, 506/507 is really diesel oils to protect the cams and dpf.

 

From the link provided above:

 

 

 

The oils in this section meet the VW 505.01 specification. These oils are especially for "Pumpe-Düse" (unit injector or "PD" engines) running on fixed service intervals (15,000km / 12 months).

It is vitally important to use an oil meeting either this, the VW 506.01 specification or the VW 507.00 specification to avoid damaging the diesel pump in PD engines.

For PD engined cars with a DPF, use only an oil meeting the VW 507.00 specification.

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Not sure if you are backing me up or not agreeing there mate,

 

The 505.01 is indeed a non longlife essential oil for PD's but you also find it as a spec on other oils for petrol engines, I suggested it for the 5/30 aspect mainly and to not have the fella buy uber expensive 506/507 ones as one is purely to help the dpf (507) over and above the (506) longlife protection of the cams,

 

Your last link is a good one for anyone needing to know the different types and how long they are allowed to run for etc anyway.

 

This should help anyway

 

http://www.mobil.co.uk/UK-English-LCW/carengineoils_which-oil.aspx

 

Sorry if you already linked it.

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Thanks everyone for the speedy response.

Gadget man.... I think I'm on fixed service intervals (how would I know?)

The number plate match link says Shell Helix ultra AV-L 5W 30

Got to be a good idea to use the best quality oil, hasn't it?

@Supurbia

I disagree, twice :).

1. First you say - noooo, 507 is for diesels... and then you recommend oil for... diesels. Unless I'm missing something.

2. When you change your oil, you want and need to be sure it's something recommended by the manufacturer. Especially with 1.8TSI that is known for its appetite for oil.

Just hypothetically - your car is covered by manufacturers warranty, you change oil (505.1 not 504/507) and your car develops a problem with oil consumption. You go back to dealer, they say - yes, we know the problem, the car will be repaired under warranty... however, Sir, I have a record of oil change that is not recommended by manufacturer. Therefore the repair is not covered by warranty and you have to pay ~£3000 for the repair.

To summarise - whatever you say, it's 504/507 spec you should be using for 1.8TSI. Not 505.1 - full stop. Of course feel free to experiment on your own car ;).

The Owners Manual specifies VW 504 00 for flexible service intervals and VW 502 00 for fixed service intervals for the 1.8TSI engine. That engine has been known to have piston ring and timing chain tensioner issues so I would strongly recommend sticking to the specified oils. 504 00 - which is the factory fill spec from new - is backwardly compatible with 502 00 so can be used instead of the latter.

@ Imb

 

Perhaps I'm not writing things down properly so I'll try again

 

507 I said not to use because it is designed to have a low ash content designed to help a dpf stay unblocked so a total waste of money in a TSi

 

505.01 although for diesels isn't purely for diesels as there basically is no more of that old diesel oil chutney the marketing guys used to use

 

So to try and clear it up fully I was suggesting the 505.01 spec oil in a full synth format for good protection overall and fuel economy, or put another way I use Vauxhall full synth 5/30w oil aka Mobil 1 rebranded and have done in everything for the last 15 years without any issues be it petrol or diesel cars even though I got slammed for using it in my Superb 1 at first when it didn't say those magic numbers on the carton, but then again I'm not one for believing all I hear from those wanting to max extract from my wallet,

 

So in summary as DGW has now said it's ok to use 502 504 oils but the 505.01 is also ok as the same 502 spec oil will normally also have 504 505 505.01 also written on the carton

 

Hope this clears it up a bit better this time

 

 

And for the OP, take this bit of advice, drain your oil and change the filter every 10k, 12k at the most to keep your engine clean and more efficient, you will have heard of bore wash and all engines do it, this is when fuel residue finds it's way into the oil simply because no engine can make a 100% seal in the cylinders and gets scraped into the sump along with carbon residue from combustion, all the longlife blurb is is to keep fleet costs down, as fleet gets rid of the car before the warranty is up they don't care and once someone else buys the car and it's out of warranty neither do the car makers, one of the crucial aspects is the filter, the oil probably can live 20k but the filter will be restrictive and coated in contaminates by then reducing oil flow and protection, hth.

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Tthanks for the advice superbia.

 

I never realised putting oil in could be so complex.

 

I went to Halfords. Told em the car and they sold me the 5W 30.

 

Have I done the wrong thing?

 

Flippin' eck. The price of oil has gone up a bit since I last bought some!. Nearly 50 squid for 4 ltrs.

 

Mind you on my last car I was getting the used chip fryer oil off my friend Mario at The Golden Fry.

Na 5/30 is a good all round choice tbh

 

The diesel is the crucial one as the oil is under such high pressure on the cams that a lesser spec can be squeezed clean out and cause wear

@RICHARD999

Have you checked, that oil they soild you meets 502 (fixed service)/504 (flexible service). There are many 5W30 viscosity grade but they may not meet your car manufacturer specification!

@RICHARD999 Have you checked, that oil they soild you meets 502 (fixed service)/504 (flexible service). There are many 5W30 viscosity grade but they may not meet your car manufacturer specification!

 

 

That is true, if there isn't anything on the bottle it should be fully synth is Longlife and Semi is 10k drain, @ £12 a litre I'd say you have the LL one and although people like to diss Halfords staff I find them ok myself.

 

I'd 10k drain anyway Rich.

 

Post the brand they sold you Rich.

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It's Castrol Edge Fluid Strength Technology

5W-30 fully synthetic

On the back of the container it says VW 504 00/ 507 00 and "fulfills the requirements of the former VW 503 01 specifications"

It's Castrol Edge Fluid Strength Technology 5W-30 fully synthetic On the back of the container it says VW 504 00/ 507 00 and "fulfills the requirements of the former VW 503 01 specifications"

I got that (from Opie oils £35 for 4 litres) as that is what was supplied with car as a spare 1 litre container.

Or get your oil from ECP with their regular 30% off coupons. I paid £28 for 4l of Castrol from their on a promotion.

Why not?

 

Its been tested and approved to Skoda's stringent standards, hence the VW 507.00 qualification.

It's Castrol Edge Fluid Strength Technology 5W-30 fully synthetic On the back of the container it says VW 504 00/ 507 00 and "fulfills the requirements of the former VW 503 01 specifications"

 

 

aka the right choice.

Albeit the expensive choice.

Interesting topic this. My dealer and a lot of Googling seems to come up with Castrol Edge Professional. I had a look at the difference between this and Castrol Edge (without the professional wording). It seems that the professional has an ultra violet dye in it which is primarily designed to find the source of leaks, using a uv light. But I suppose it could also be used as a "get out of jail free " card if your engine blows up and it's still under warranty and you are using the wrong oil.

 

Cynical???

 

Maybe.

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