Bolero BT Coding rejected

[Anddenton]

Hi Guys, I need a little help.

 

I have been trying to code a retrofit BT into a 2012 Octy VRS for a fellow Briskodian. I have latest version VCDS with a genuine cable.

 

The Bolero is this one:

 

and the Bluetooth is this:

 

This was supposed to be coded in by the dealer the car was purchased from but they didn't seem sure of themselves and it seems haven't managed to sort it properly. The cars coding is as follows:

 

Tuesday,06,August,2013,17:54:38:29168
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.6 (x64)
Data version: 20121223

 

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Chassis Type: 7N0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 77

VIN: TMBUH21Z 

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Not registered 0011
 
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Address 01: Engine (CEG)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 022 RD    HW: 03L 906 022 GA
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  5751 
   Revision: 13H14---    Serial number:              
   Coding: 0001072
   Shop #: WSC 73430 000 00000
   VCID: 78FBAF430BA2BBD818B

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BH    HW: 1K0 907 379 BH
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121 
   Revision: 00H31001   
   Coding: 163B601C092A0000681206E8901E0082340800
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 79FDAA47F0A8A2D0675

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 BK    HW: 3T0 907 044 BK
   Component: Climatronic   H18 0506 
   Revision: 00001007   
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_Climatronic_SK35.rod
   VCID: 7CF3B353F79A97F87C3

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 Q    HW: 1K0 937 087 Q
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   110 0651 
   Revision: 00110 AC   
   Coding: 40000AB8A05BB1C040100080110011E4437000AE726D8160808440040040
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 3F89045FAE0C4CE0191

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z2 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 05041  26  0601
   Coding: 00D7B7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 160412 05  54  0403
   Coding: 0730ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1Z0 951 171
   Component: Innenraumuebe  008 5101

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501

1 Fault Found:
01800 - Light Switch (E1)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 16659 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.04
                    Time: 18:21:37

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.55 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300 
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PC2ANY5- 
   Coding: 0020788
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 3D757E5764005EF00BD

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BL    HW: 5K0 953 569 C
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140 
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20120418800392
   Coding: 5080140000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS_SK35.rod
   VCID: 77F9AC7FCEBCB4A0111

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 903 T    HW: 1Z0 920 903 T
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0608 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410E01
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00095
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
   VCID: 468711BBF9D61D285A7

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 M    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1623 
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 080412F2003008
   Coding: 352303
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 3A7F754BB52E69C82EF

5 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 16272 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.03
                    Time: 15:25:23

00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 16272 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.03
                    Time: 15:25:11

01304 - Radio
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 16272 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.03
                    Time: 15:57:09

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 92
                    Mileage: 16272 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.03
                    Time: 15:21:02

03272 - Control Module for Audio Interface
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 16272 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.03
                    Time: 15:57:08

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H05 0608 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   VCID: EADF050B0D0E99481EF

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7662268605   
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 295DBA074088D250575

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120 
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 489B1F833BC20B58A8B

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3305 
   Revision: 00H22000   
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 37796C7F463C74A0D11

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120 
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 47991CBF36DC0420A11

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0148 
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:              
   Coding: 1507610
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 34635B73574A9FB8F43

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0005 
   Coding: 00000023

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0005 
   Coding: 00000023

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 035 156 M    HW: 1Z0 035 156 M
   Component: BOLERO        001 0008 
   Revision: -----08S    Serial number: SKZ4Z3M1131882
   Coding: 010004000001
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00095
   VCID: 3C737353BF1A57F83C3

4 Faults Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 16272 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.03
                    Time: 15:23:25

00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 16272 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.03
                    Time: 15:23:25

00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17)
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 16272 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.03
                    Time: 15:24:59

02244 - Button in Control Head is Stuck
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 16659 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.14.04
                    Time: 17:48:09

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 A    HW: 5K0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012575
   VCID: 326F5D6BAD5E9188E6F

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 A    HW: 5K0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012575
   VCID: 3361586F52449880ED9

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 3C8-035-730-A.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 C    HW: 3C8 035 730 C
   Component: Telefon       012 0822 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35909603526822
   Coding: 020004000100111100000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi A02705
   ROD: EV_UHVPremi_SK35.rod
   VCID: 2341A82F2AA408001D9

5 Faults Found:
9457171 - Positive output audio channel for speech/telephone
          B104E 13 [008] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 16272 km
                    Date: 2014.14.03
                    Time: 15:24:51

9455635 - Telephone Microphone
          B1048 13 [008] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 149

9458451 - Cellular Antenna
          B1053 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2

13636352 - Control Module Not Coded
          U1013 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1

12608768 - Infotainment CAN Bus (SAE Bus E)
          U0065 00 [008] - Performance
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 149

 

Most of the above faults cleared down OK so were assumed to be installation related. I added the telephone kit to the Gateway installation list without a problem, however the Bolera whilst it seems to acknowledge the existence of the kit by showing the option for emergency call under the telephone menu it does not provide anything further. 

 

Under the Radio coding I found a tick box for the presence of a telephone kit but I get the following error when I try to code this

 

 

Am I correct in thinking the Bolero needs to be told of the presence of the telephone prep?

 

Could anyone provide an insight into where I am going wrong here?

Edited 7 August, 2013 by Anddenton

[adamal]

When I fitted mine I didn't actually need to code it before it worked.  Admittedly that was to a Columbus in a pre FL, with a slightly different module, but I wouldn't have thought it was too different.  In my case, the coding to 77 just refined the usability such as how the names were displayed etc and presumably adding it to the gateway would have allowed it to show in maxidot had that been possible (which in my case it wasn't due it being a pre FL).  When I did code it I do recall adding something to 56 as you are trying to do but as I say it worked even before I did that. 

 

My guess the issue is with the pre-coding in 77, not 56 (maybe in relation to the car manufacturer or country setting?).  And do any any of those errors on 77 remain after clearing them?

 

Happy to look through my coding if no one else with a better clue or a more similar set up comes forward.

 

Adam 

[Anddenton]

Thanks for the reply Adam.

There didn't look to be much to code in 77, I tried the language set to both English and Automatic which didn't seem to have any effect. All fault codes for 77 cleared down ok but having searched on here it seems the coding for this module is longer than a lot of others?

As said the odd thing was the tick box for telephone in 56 which the unit refused to accept, and I am struggling to find an answer on line for the coding rejected error I am seeing.

[adamal]

I looked at my coding and there was something in 77 about telephone prep at byte 7 which was country related. That was the only thing I could see which might cause issue??

And the only thing in 56 was to do with voice control.

So I suspect our modules are too different for a useful comparison. And yes your phone coding is longer than mine, although I guess that is because it is the premium version with more functionality.

Adam

[KBPhoto]

As you have a genuine VCDS cable, do you also have Ross Tech support?

If so, drop them an email with all the info or PM Theresa (I think that's correct spelling) on this forum.

[Eddie-NL]

why are you coding the radio for BT

 

code the Telephone module and gateway

 

If the radio can't see the BT kit then there is an issue with the wiring

[gadgetman]

I coded a unit for a member and had to manually copy the long coding before it took.

Once that was done the options in 77 could be set and adjusted.

[a.spillane]

why are you coding the radio for BT

 

code the Telephone module and gateway

 

If the radio can't see the BT kit then there is an issue with the wiring

Eddie-NL I am the briskodian member that Anddenton is trying to assist with the codeing of the bluetooth. The wiring loom I purchased was part of a retrofit package that I bought from car-systems.pl.

Unless I`m a complete idiot and I ordered the wrong thing I think the wiring is pretty simple. I plugged the new quadlock onto the main wiring loom behind the bolero and the other end into the back of the bolero. The mic was connected and also the last attachment to the bluetooth module.

I admit I have no ideas regarding the codeing thing.

When the bluetooth module is connected the "BT-Audio" shows on the bolero but cannot be selected. When I press the phone button the display shows no user connected. I search via my mobile phone and the vehicle bluetooth is not visable.

Any other ideas what this could be ????

[Anddenton]

Thanks for your help and comments guys.

 

As you have a genuine VCDS cable, do you also have Ross Tech support?

If so, drop them an email with all the info or PM Theresa (I think that's correct spelling) on this forum.

 

I got the cable second hand from an acquaintance who was selling his VW so I don't believe I get the support but I will look into it as I might be able to pay for support?

 

why are you coding the radio for BT

 

code the Telephone module and gateway

 

If the radio can't see the BT kit then there is an issue with the wiring

 

I coded the gateway for the BT being present but didn't seem to make any difference, is there some coding in the gateway that I am missing?

 

Telephone module coding doesn't seem to be anything that would stop it from working, just the basics such as language setting etc. Is there a particular setting I should be looking for?

 

The radio seems to be able to see the presence of the BT as it gives the option for emergency call, however when you go into this I think it just said there was no phone present.

 

The coding for the radio seemed to have an option for telephone kit installed so I assumed I needed to set this, however that was the coding that wouldn't take.

 

I coded a unit for a member and had to manually copy the long coding before it took.

Once that was done the options in 77 could be set and adjusted.

 

Interesting, what long coding did you use?

[gadgetman]

I don't recall. I think I found a thread where someone posted their code. Once it was in, all the options worked and could be adapted in the usual way

[KBPhoto]

Ross Tech support is $99 I think: that's lifetime.

Have a look in the 'Radio' and see if there's anything there. I really can't remember if there is, but there might be.

Otherwise its only the gateway (19) that needs coding to activate and the BT module to code the features you want / need.

[airspike]

Can I ask please, did this issue get resolved, as I am trying to achieve the same, and am running into the same issue of the Bolero 'seeing' the bluetooth, but not offering any pairing or indeed any options!

(I am using a 3C8 035 730 E bluetooth unit)

I am struggling now, any help appreciated!!

[adamal]

Have you got maxi dot?

[airspike]

^{Many thanks for your prompt response, No maxidot, just the standard white display that came fitted standard. It is a manual facelift VRs.}

[Anddenton]

The issue I had in the original post with the Bluetooth not offering a method of pairing was I now understand down to having premium Bluetooth but not having maxidot, the premium bluetooth requires the presence of maxidot to allow pairing.

[Paulbrown]

When phill did mine for me I think he had to wipe all the settings on the Bluetooth box and start a fresh worked first time after that.

Your right when you say that the Bluetooth audio apears on the media bit but you can't click it that's what happened to mine

[adamal]

As Anddenton says airspikes issue is not having maxidot and hence no means to pair to a premium bt module. The options are change to a different module that pairs via the headunit or install maxidot. Neither is cheap but the former is easier...

[adamal]

True...

[airspike]

Hi All, Thanks for the suggestions, I think I will try Simbo's suggestion, as I have just changed phone, and it will see me a couple more years.

Regarding changing to a 'different module' any suggestions as to which one will resolve this problem and work?

Thanks again,

[airspike]

Thanks Simbo, much appreciated, will look for one if I cant find a car to do a temporary swap with to pair this one!!

[adamal]

You can use the newer ones that are HFP only as they pair from the phone and use the head unit to display the phone book. You just need a Bolero or Columbus.

They start 5k0 with suffix d or above or 7p6 j or above.

Admittedly more expensive than the older units but they support streaming and I think all the older ones also require maxidot...

[airspike]

Thanks Adamal, I will try first to find someone with a microdot setup to see if I can program this one, otherwise search for a new one begins!

 

Thanks to all for your assistance.