Do Skoda provide the vest?

Maybe us females could use it to store our lipstick and blusher ,eye liner, nail varnish, nail file, hair brush, hair bands, and many other things as well. instead      

Corrected that for you Marie, better have the under seat draw on the passenger side as well.   

Some people think the little drawer under the drivers seat is bit of a gimmick and serves no real purpose. However, as Llanigraham rightly points out, some counties in th EU now have legislation that makes it a requirement for high visibility vests to be carried in the passenger area rather than in the boot. Maybe it's a case of Skoda planning ahead of the game and thinking outside of the box!

Not knowing the dimensions of the box, I suppose it could also be used to house the breathalyser kits that you have to carry in France.

Thanks armayeti for pointing out that the vests are of the high visibility type. I was thinking more along the lines of bullet proof vests and other body armour needed as parts fly off the less than reliable Yeti. Well at least the less reliable Yetis referred to by certain journos. I rate the Yeti 5 oh no changed my mind now a 3. Credibility of journo = less reliable.

Thanks armayeti for pointing out that the vests are of the high visibility type. I was thinking more along the lines of bullet proof vests and other body armour needed as parts fly off the less than reliable Yeti. Well at least the less reliable Yetis referred to by certain journos. I rate the Yeti 5 oh no changed my mind now a 3. Credibility of journo = less reliable.

I can understand why anyone who's bought a Yeti would defend its reliability record - that's human nature - but there's little point in attacking the 'journos' who dropped the reliability rating from 5 to 3.  That's just shooting the messenger - all Which? did was report the problems reported to them by Yeti owners.  Can't see that being anything other than objective.

I can understand why anyone who's bought a Yeti would defend its reliability record - that's human nature - but there's little point in attacking the 'journos' who dropped the reliability rating from 5 to 3.  That's just shooting the messenger - all Which? did was report the problems reported to them by Yeti owners.  Can't see that being anything other than objective.

I think you've misunderstood. Most people here will know that the Yeti is just another car; there will be good and bad examples in terms of quality/faults and it will typically have an average reliability for a modern car. Nothing much there to defend.

What's being commented on I suspect is the generally poor reputation that Which has for its methodology and priorities that means its reports have little relevance to the typical purchaser. Certainly, a Which report is virtually the last place I'd personally look for guidance on any buying decision.

I think you've misunderstood. Most people here will know that the Yeti is just another car; there will be good and bad examples in terms of quality/faults and it will typically have an average reliability for a modern car. Nothing much there to defend.

What's being commented on I suspect is the generally poor reputation that Which has for its methodology and priorities that means its reports have little relevance to the typical purchaser. Certainly, a Which report is virtually the last place I'd personally look for guidance on any buying decision.

I'd have to disagree with you on Which?, I'm afraid.  It's the only genuinely independent information source of its kind out there, and your personal view of its methodology and priorities isn't one I'd share.  When it comes to car reliability it's essentially reporting faults picked up by car owners, and the sample's large enough to be statistically valid.  Unhappy car owners will always be more vocal than happy ones, that's perfectly true, but since the reviews cover pretty well all popular cars that's going to even itself out.

 

Last year's report gave the Yeti a very high reliability rating.  This year's didn't.  Couldn't it just be that newish Yetis are much more reliable than older ones, as is the case with several other cars?

I've been a subscriber to which for 6 months or so now and I have noticed that there are some fairly basic inaccuracies in some of their reports which has led me to question how reliable their reports actually are.

I'd have to disagree with you on Which?, I'm afraid.

You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but many would disagree (about the credibility of Which, I mean, specifically).

I'd suspect that a Yeti is actually a 4* car, ie much the same as many other modern cars. And it's hardly a revelation that older/higher mileage examples might be somewhat less reliable.

I'd suspect that a Yeti is actually a 4* car, ie much the same as many other modern cars. And it's hardly a revelation that older/higher mileage examples might be somewhat less reliable.

You may well be right.  Unfortunately, the Yeti doesn't feature in the quite useful analyses here:  http://www.reliabilityindex.com/

 

As to older cars/higher mileages, of course it's no revelation that they're likely to be less reliable - but Which? is comparing like with like, older cars against older cars.  It's easy to knock Which?, but apart from the index above, which seems to be based on hard fact, there's not much else around on reliability.  It may not be important to a lot of people, but it is to me.

 

Interesting, though, that the cars rated by Which? as particularly reliable (such as the Jazz) rate equally highly in the Warranty Direct Reliability Index tables.

I subscribed to Which? in its early years but I noticed and gradual reduction in the accuracy of its reports about Radio and TV sets. At the time I was retailing both items and so had direct knowledge of them and some of the Which? reports lacked product knowledge that affected any opinions that they offered.

I have not seen a copy of Which? for a number of years but I wonder if they publish how they interpret the data they use for their reviews?

 

Fred

Am I the only one to notice that the OP's post referred to a What Car survey and then half way down the first page of responses it changed to Which?

 

Having taken part in the annual Which? car survey some years ago, I'd say it provides a pretty accurate method of collating data on users experiences and in particular reliability. It doesn't, however, cover the more emotive aspects of car buying and use, such as looks, image, style and feel of quality, etc.

 

What Car on the other hand doesn't seem to like VAG cars too much.

Am I the only one to notice that the OP's post referred to a What Car survey and then half way down the first page of responses it changed to Which?

I don't think so. I think most of the recent posts have been specifically about Which. Threads do change tack - it's inevitable.