I have a PD140. I have caught the upgrade bug a little after having to replace my snapped RARB (rear anti roll bar) and put on a performance one. This increased the fun of the car by improving its cornering a lot. Its made the body nice and flat through hard cornering.

 

My front offside suspension coil snapped, yes thats right snapped, clean. So now i have ordered some coilovers as a treat to replace it all as i have wanted it lowered for a while and hopefully to improve the ride.

 

nothing left to do now apart from upgrade the power, beside from new rims of course.

 

I'm tempted to leave it alone as im thinking i can never get it more powerful then the VRS but an ecu remap could potentially bring it close or even bring it a little more BHP then the VRS model. A common figure for power increase from a remap seems to be 35% taking it to 175BHP. Although this is obvisouly the maximum potential power increase and perhaps not what the remap will realisticaly and literatly achieve.

 

So along these same lines of thinking If you remap the VRS it could move from 170BHP to 205BHP.

 

I dont want to be playing catch up in the power department. If what ever i do to my PD140, I did the same thing to a VRS, it would always be more powerful. Am i right in thinking this? or can the PD140 become on par?

 

What is the difference between the PD140 and the VRS. mines a 2005 to be specific. whats the difference bettween mine and a 2005 VRS diesel?

 

Is it the exact same engine, but it gets remapped as standard from skoda? and has a bigger turbo already to compensate the remap too?

 

If i remap mine and get a bigger turbo how much more power could my engine take? Whats the biggest turbo it could realistically/sensibly handle before it becomes unreliable and a ticking time bomb for major repair work or replacement engine or engine parts?

 

I am reading, trying to find answers but it doesnt seem like too much obvious info is out there. As a bit of a mechanical n00b, what i find doesnt always make immediate sense sometimes.

I think I am right in saying that the injectors are different on the diesel vrs, but I have no idea if they are a straight swap for the pd140 units or not. I don't know what else is different either, sorry.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

Injectors are different and wouldnt swap over. (PD170 uses piezo crystal injectors). The PD170 has a different turbo, it also has a DPF.

 

Personally i'd stick with the PD140, much less hassle.

All I know (heard somewhere) is the PD 140 runs a totally different injection system to the PD 170 think one is Bosch and the other is Siemens?

So they are different physically straight away not just a re-map.

An expert will be along soon

Regards

Inlet and exhaust manifolds maybe different too but i'm not sure

PD140 is a good engine for tuning and has the potential to go further than a PD170, but you are talking a lot of cash, at which point you may as well go buy a Petrol VRS and map it.

also, TBH if I was you, I would get your car remapped and enjoy it, then save for an upgrade in a year or twos time to a faster car if you want more poke.

Take it to Sark (site sponsor)  - or get one of their ODB plug in map units and do it at home.  Shark have a good reputation from other forum users.  I run have the same unit from a different supplier (Viezu, group buy on a Golf site) and run a bespoke map on my PD140 giving a reliable RR'd 180bhp and 295nm.  I would expect Shark to get near this, or better.

 

The difference to low & mid range torque is incredible and makes overtaking a much less stressful experience. MPG remains the same or better unless you rag it all the time but no increase in top speed  as you can not increase max revs with a diesel remap - but thats not the point, the enjoyment is in the mid rage power.

I wondered the same thing when looking at buying a new shape PD140 Ibiza FR to replace one of the Fabias.

 

A Shark remap'll give 180bhp from the PD140 lump though - as detail here

The 170 will blow the 140 away

A mapped 140 would blow a standard 170 away        The low down torque from a mapped BKD engine is brilliant. And I know you will say a mapped 170 will up the bar again (of coarse it will) but the OP hasn't got a Vrs.

A mapped 140 would blow a standard 170 away         

 

 

Funny thing is, I remember you drove my white vRS and said the opposite :P

PD140vsPD170 is a totally different engine, bottom end and top end ( injectors and turbo)

Funny thing is, I remember you drove my white vRS and said the opposite :p

 

Half a million Kms tends to slow the Donkey a bit!!!!!!      And anyway, that was my driving Miss Daisy fase, I am now back in my (normal) drive it like you stole it fase and my little PD140 can still bring a smile to my face (587,000kms)

A few years ago I had a remapped vRS CR170 which dynoed at 204bhp and about 310lbs. My mate had a Golf 140PD at the time and that remapped was as quick as my vRS. Apparently the turbos on the PD140 are prone to failure though so I'm not sure I would want to remap one if I was planning on keeping it.

A few years ago I had a remapped vRS CR170 which dynoed at 204bhp and about 310lbs. My mate had a Golf 140PD at the time and that remapped was as quick as my vRS. Apparently the turbos on the PD140 are prone to failure though so I'm not sure I would want to remap one if I was planning on keeping it.

My first turbo lasted 130,000kms the second one (skoda) lasted about the same and the one thats on the car since has just started going into limp mode (587,000kms on the clock) this one is a Turbo Technics unit.

Remapped from new!!