If you aren't good at maths or either a guesser or liar please do not reply,

 

The models I want to hear about is the 2.0 CR DSG and the 1.6 CR DSG on an urban cycle, and that means running about town in traffic for at least 10 minutes a time for over a couple of hours, I don't want to hear how Carlisle to Cornwall can be done on 2.4 gallons I want to hear what it's like when it's constantly up and down the box, tia.

I'm so glad the op posted this, I'm of the opinion that late VAG cars are so bland inside you'd need a dildo on full vibe to keep you awake, they've gone from almost nice to Trabant quality imo.

 

Thinking of driving a Trabant then?

Thinking of driving a Trabant then?

I am getting 40mpg on my daily commute to work.

 

The stop/start doesn't ever come on as I am never stopped stationary for more than 5-10 seconds.

 

That's 40% urban, 60% country roads but there are plenty of junctions and roundabouts on the country roads.

 

Computer says 48 (but 40mpg is real world based on tank to tank fill ups)

 

motorway work (Newcastle to Glasgow) on open roads at 75mph only gave 48mpg.

 

DSG is friggin thirsty and revs 20% higher than a manual when in 6th so uses extra fuel.

 

Fantastically easy/lazy around town though!

 

It does change gear alot in town but you don't notice it.

 

I wouldn't have another DSG diesel. 

Edited 11 September, 201312 yr by Sheldon.Cooper

I am driving a 1.6 DSG diesel.

 

Start/Stop is annoying on a DSG.

 

most of my driving is motorway, and yesterday (sorry, I know you didnt want this) maxidot was showing an average of 58mpg, but fuelly.com would work this to about 53.

 

another post stated that the DSG is thirsty, but I am not sure about this, especially as my DSG is 7 speed.

 

I would think you would be getting high 40's.

 

good luck with whatever you choose.

Thinking of driving a Trabant then?

 

I would too if she came with it!!

 

I am getting 40mpg on my daily commute to work.

 

The stop/start doesn't ever come on as I am never stopped stationary for more than 5-10 seconds.

 

That's 40% urban, 60% country roads but there are plenty of junctions and roundabouts on the country roads.

 

Computer says 48 (but 40mpg is real world based on tank to tank fill ups)

 

motorway work (Newcastle to Glasgow) on open roads at 75mph only gave 48mpg.

 

DSG is friggin thirsty and revs 20% higher than a manual when in 6th so uses extra fuel.

 

Fantastically easy/lazy around town though!

 

It does change gear alot in town but you don't notice it.

 

I wouldn't have another DSG diesel. 

 

You know how to make a man feel good about his car choice! :rofl:

Sorry.

 

I ordered it back in March having not driven it and basing my choice on the the fact that I had a Passatt CC 2.0 TFSI DSG in the states for a week and loved it.

 

I knew the engine would be ok and thought the DSG would complement it.

 

It doesn't.

 

That's also proven in the co2 emissions, on some petrols it's the same or even lower with a DSG because it's well programmed.  In a diesel the emissions are higher.

 

Still a really nice car and a good choice but it's nowhere near as economical as the manual version and I don't know why the gear ratios are different.

I thank you all for your replies (even the cardboard car joke ones ) and please continue to post up your figures if you haven't already,

 

One of the things that made me ask is I'm a former Passat B6 DSG owner and iirc I would get roughly 440 miles out of a tank running about town mainly, the car had a PD rather than a CD engine and I'm wondering how much better the new engine is and also why VW post identical figures for the 2.0 DSG B7 to the manual ones, looking at the reports here it would suggest far from the 44 mpg urban official figure the car would probably return 35 urban, my PD used to have an official of 32 urban and mine ran mostly on the dot @ 28-32 sometimes as good as 36 if the conditions were good,

 

Anyway thanks for the input on this fellas.

1.6 TDI DSG I had on demo. London to Medway in Kent, 43 mile journey. 9 miles on 50mph A2 blackwall tunnel -> Blackheath, 17miles NSL A2. The rest is London traffic. Eco mode on.

Edited 11 September, 201312 yr by v0n

DSG is friggin thirsty and revs 20% higher than a manual when in 6th so uses extra fuel.

 

 

20% higher rpm than the Manual.....Are you sure? The MkII 6 speed DSG has virtually the same gearing as the manual....maybe even a slightly higher ratio in 6th.  

 

 

That's also proven in the co2 emissions, on some petrols it's the same or even lower with a DSG because it's well programmed.  In a diesel the emissions are higher.

 

This is because the 2.0Tdi has a 6 speed wet clutch DSG. This version of the DSG can handle the higher torque of the 2.0 diesel but has greater mechanical drag due to the wet clutch setup. The petrols get the 7 speed dry clutch DSG which has a lower torque limit, but has lower mechanical drag. This usually results in similar or better Co2 emissions compared to the manual versions. Nothing to do with programming.    

80mph in 6th in a manual is 2100rpm, in a  DSG it's 2500rpm.

 

Thats's about 20%

Edited 11 September, 201312 yr by Sheldon.Cooper

80mph in 6th in a manual is 2100rpm, 

 

I'm not sure which manual Octavia you experienced 2100rpm at 80mph, but the manual 2.0tdi CR, does 2450rpm in 6th at 80mph.  

No fighting guys it's not worth falling out over

I have the gear ratios for the VRS TDI/TSI manual/DSG if you want to see them and think it's relevant. The DSG is the same across the range (obviously the engines with DSG7 will have different ratios).

I'm not sure which manual Octavia you experienced 2100rpm at 80mph, but the manual 2.0tdi CR, does 2450rpm in 6th at 80mph.  

 

Sorry, I have never driven a manual Octy III.

 

I was basing this on a back to back test drive of a manual & dsg Golf Mk7 TDI GT earlier this year.   In that car in 6th at 80mph the revs were totally different and I thought the Octavia would have the same gearbox.

 

That makes the fuel economy of the DSG even worse then if all ratios are identical.  The difference in mpg must be down to how often it changes gear (as I previously stated,dsg programming for petrol is good, diesel is not there yet).

Sorry, I have never driven a manual Octy III.

 

I was basing this on a back to back test drive of a manual & dsg Golf Mk7 TDI GT earlier this year.   In that car in 6th at 80mph the revs were totally different and I thought the Octavia would have the same gearbox.

 

That makes the fuel economy of the DSG even worse then if all ratios are identical.  The difference in mpg must be down to how often it changes gear (as I previously stated,dsg prograi*gmming for petrol is good, diesel is not there yet).

 

Interesting. 

 

The difference in economy between the manual and DSG depends on what DSG you have. If you had a 1.6 Diesel, it would have a 7 speed DSG fitted and would equal or exceed the economy of a manual transmission in that engine. You have a 6 Speed gearbox that has higher mechanical drag, and reduces economy (slightly) compared to a manual.  

 

The economy you are experiencing is pretty bad. My MkII 2.0 PD DSG does 45 mpg around town and easily does over 50 mpg on a run (calculated, not trip figures). Obviously a MkIII which is 100kg lighter and with a new common rail engine should do better than this. Perhaps your car will improve as it loosens up. Or perhaps driving style and road conditions are a big factor in this situation. 

If you aren't good at maths or either a guesser or liar please do not reply,

The models I want to hear about is the 2.0 CR DSG and the 1.6 CR DSG on an urban cycle, and that means running about town in traffic for at least 10 minutes a time for over a couple of hours, I don't want to hear how Carlisle to Cornwall can be done on 2.4 gallons I want to hear what it's like when it's constantly up and down the box, tia.

U are very demanding! 5000mpg

I've had the DSG-7 twice and I've found it very economical, more economical than the manual of the car. I'm sticking with DSG this time as well, from what I know of it there's a 2 mpg penalty for it on a petrol engine, but a 5 mpg penalty on the diesel one.

 

I'm happy with DSG and I see no reason to go back to an old fashioned manual. 

I'm not sure which manual Octavia you experienced 2100rpm at 80mph, but the manual 2.0tdi CR, does 2450rpm in 6th at 80mph.  

 

Sheldon is spot on. My O3 Combi does 130 kmh, thats 80mph, at about 2100rpm in 6th gear.

I don't know if you are interested or not, but I have had my mk3 2 litre manual since sept 1 and have done 1600 miles in three weeks, it maintains 70 mph easily at 2000 revs, and has recorded 63 mpg average since new, the best individual daily performance was yesterday on A and B roads with a 100 mile journey and the trip average was 73 mpg, at one stage it was 75.9. This is my first Skoda, but my 12th brand new car, and without any doubt it has been the best by far, and yes I have had some expensive motors.

I don't think he wanted to hear about our 2.0D manual figures...

(3126 miles when I filled up yesterday, a true 60.9mpg overall and a best of 74 from Swansea to Bristol).

If you aren't good at maths or either a guesser or liar please do not reply,

 

The models I want to hear about is the 2.0 CR DSG and the 1.6 CR DSG on an urban cycle, and that means running about town in traffic for at least 10 minutes a time for over a couple of hours, I don't want to hear how Carlisle to Cornwall can be done on 2.4 gallons I want to hear what it's like when it's constantly up and down the box, tia.

erm?,

What does that mean?

Does it mean 10mins urban in 120 mins semi urban/rural?

Or drive for 10mins urban and then parked for 110mins?

Anyway repeated 3 mile rural and bypass work with shorter stop start urban runs in a dry 7 speed 1.6 CR/DSG (Mark II mind) gets me in the high/very high 40's but not never  50.

A reasonable run mid 50's

A long reasonably moderate speed (45 to 55/60 on A rds and 70 odd on Motorway) sees the right side of 60mpg.

An exceptional, but unintended/unplanned run Sat past, saw 70mpg over 100 miles mixed driving.

So pick yer figure

cheers

marcus