Now the dark mornings and evenings are coming back, it's not infrequent to get flashed by oncoming cars, presumably angry little people who think I'm running boy racer foglights with the stupid sidelight set-up on the VRS. Is there a way to disable the side lights when dipped beam is on? I already have the DRLs deactivated.

don't let other peoples ignorance affect you, if they are too stupid to understand, pity them.

Mostly I'm the moron flashing and waving other Mk2's.

..........I've sadly had the finger more often than a wave back.

Hoping not Briskie members

Easy solution : 

 

Flash back .

Now the dark mornings and evenings are coming back, it's not infrequent to get flashed by oncoming cars, presumably angry little people who think I'm running boy racer foglights with the stupid sidelight set-up on the VRS. Is there a way to disable the side lights when dipped beam is on? I already have the DRLs deactivated.

 

When you go on to sidelights the DRLs seem to dim considerably for some VAG logic that only they understand.

When you go on to sidelights the DRLs seem to dim considerably for some VAG logic that only they understand.

It's a legal requirement I believe.

Never had a problem

When you go on to sidelights the DRLs seem to dim considerably for some VAG logic that only they understand.

 

It's a legal requirement I believe.

 

I wish someone would tell Citroen designers that! 

It's not the flashing i mind so much. I have had a couple of pillocks try and blind me with their lights on main beam, until they pass me. Now that is out of order! Some drivers can be so arrogant........grrrr

Just concentrate on your own driving people, i know what i am doing.

Never had a problem

Same here, no issues.

I am back on my vRS Autumn/Winter Sidelight setting.

Half the Sidelights Masked off. (Duck Tape or Fablon.)

Not flashed once this week, last week many times.

 

400 miles covered this weekend in the dark & sometimes rain and i would not subject other drivers to the Standard vRS Sidelights when driving with Dipped beam on. My dipped and full beam bulbs are good but upgraded.

 

The Half Masked Sidelight is fine for using as a Parking Light, instead of the very bright Single Front Light.

If it becomes really Foggy and poor Visibility, just pull off the Masking and the Sidelights are quite good in Fog for others seeing you,better than the Standard Dipped Lights.

(Since Skoda never bother fitting Fog Lights, just saying in the Brochures that they did.)

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/255034-vrs-sidelights-are-so-embarrassing-imo

 

george

It's a legal requirement I believe.

 

Yes it is a EU requirement.  I am OK with it but perhaps if UKIP and many of the Conservative party have their way and the UK leaves the EU then we can choice to drive without Daly Light Running Lights, it would be our choice!

 

DLR very useful particularly in twilight and therefore in Northern latitudes in terms of visibility.  My motorcycle has the same setup, two DLRs on the outer edges of the fairing and the two headlights that are permanents on.  Gone from one 25W tungsten bulb on dip to 4 front lights, two LEDs and two Krypton, ridiculous to the sublime.

 

 In northern Sweden a quarter of accidents involve hitting animals, reindeer, elks etc and a quarter of the case the driver has some alcohol in their blood but the elks had none.   DLRs will not help in these situations.

 

Actually a detailed study in the States many years ago showed there was a dip in accident stats when DLR were introduced by they return to a mid point between the before DLR, complusory lights on, and a few months after introduction.   Conclusion was that when DLRs first introduced the sub-conscientious warned the conscientious of the presence but after a while stopped doing so especially for motorbikes, sad indictment.  

 

How about DLRs that occasional change colour and frequency of flashing to keep other road users conscientious aware?          

Simples really, DRLs are required to be fitted by Manufacturers of Vehicles Type Approved after February 2011.

No requirement for them to be on in the UK, during Daytime/Daylight.

or even to be Tested for a UK MOT to see that they are fitted or work.(Yet.)

 

DRL brightness is not acceptable as Sidelight Brightness.

& can not be as Bright as DRL's when sidelights/headlights are on.

 

Sidelights are required to be fitted by Use & Construction on cars going back for decades & need to work.

(there are exceptions but not or the cars we are talking about.)

 

george

Never had a problem.

Never had a problem.

Me neither.

Keep them dirty and drive fast.

Mostly those that are flashing are on the other side of a Dual Carriageway, or side of the Motorway and when its raining, when the Sidelights are annoying, They flash or try to dazzle you from a long way off.

and i see a vRS in the same situation.

(i am so immature & a bad driver that before we pass i give them full Back Flash /Full Beam & Spot Lights from time to time.

only if nobody is driving behind them though.)

 

Other times is in towns now before the clocks change and driving late afternoon/early evening,

many others have no lights on. and see someone with Dipped beams and Spot lights on in a Skoda.

 

Brian 69,

the A77/M77 is where it is worst.

The place that more drivers than anyplace else drive in the Gloom or rain with no lights on or just DRL's,

like today in the heavy rain.

 

First taste of Winter coming next weekend, it is forecast here anyway, so maybe most drivers lights will be dirty,

& many will have no lights of any kind on.

 

george

Just to clarify, I have my drl's activated.

When lights are set to off, I just have drl's on.

When I switch to side lights the drl's dim a little but the small bulb in the headlamp unit is not lit.

When I switch to dipped headlights it's the large bulb in the headlamp unit and also drl's on.

The small bulb in the headlamp unit never illuminates on any switch position, even if drl's are deactivated, is this correct?

The small bulb is a dummy and can not light.

If you are talking about the vRS.

 

If Activated to be on, the DRL's come on when the Ignition is on.

And they are not DRL's when the Lights are switched on.

 

Your DRL's become your Sidelights when you switch on your Lights, Sidelights or & Headlights, Dipped or Beam.

They are not so bright and are Sidelights,

or only one on to the front, & it is then the Parking Light.

Ignition off and indicator stalk to left or right.

 

You do not have DRL's on with your Headlights, it is just it is the same light unit that is used.

 

george

300 miles motorway miles last night with Half Masked Sidelights, not flashed once which is fine.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner, had my first flash last night in ten months of owning my vRS.

 

Ironic really as the flasher (chortle) was a fellow in a BMW 7 series with his xenons set really really high. 

 

He flashed his foglights on and off at me and waved angrily.  I smiled heartily and gave him a big thumbs up.  Now i don't feel left out

Seems to be increasing, I've had people jam their rear fogs on at me a couple of times in the last few weeks. I've retaliated by turning my lights off for a split second then on again - I doubt they have a clue, but it's a small gesture to prove I'm not being antisocial!

RANT> Alert!.

 

Tonight my gripe DRLs,  'Daytime' or 'Daylight' running lights and Renaults, Citroen DS's, Kias, Skodas etc.

 

It was not 'Day Light' at 4.00 PMish, it was getting dark,  the Renaults with the DRLs, towards the middle of the Grill shine right at you if they are coming up or down a hill towards you.

Well they do with me.

 

vRS sidelights are mistaken for Fog or Spotlights, due to the position and type/brightness i understand that.

& even if getting dark and you switch on headlights, sidelights and the DRL function is off they are easily mistaken..

Any vRS owner driving in the dark or poor visibility with DRL's on should be shot.

(Any Fabia owner with stupid DRL's made brighter should be shot. 

Any with Rear Number Plate lights to the rear, so that it looks like they have white reversing lights on,

or are as bright as DRLs are at the front should be Hang, Drawn and Quartered.)

 

Someone with DRLs on that you can tell are DRL's has just not thought,

i need to Light up, the street lights are coming on, its now night time.

They should be hang and shot.

 

george

...And people who keep ranting on about how other people who do something the ranter finds offensive, should be shot, hung drawn and quartered, AFTER being ravaged, by a randy gorilla!

OOPS! Thats gonna be me now, too!

 

Back to the subject, how about sensible DRL drivers using some of that stuff people use to make the front or rear lights look black but still let enough light through? Kinda black mesh, sticky stuff. It may make the blinding to everyone else, cool to the owner DRL's a little more approachable from the oncoming direction. How ever can a system devised to make it EASIER to be seen, be so dangerous and annoying to other drivers?

These DRL's should ideally be much lower in brightness and aimed much lower down!

Think it makes it worse because the DRL's on side light mode are a White light where  as the Dipped main beam is a yellowish light. This makes other folk think you have your fogs on

How about when it is getting dark and all other cars have lights on, the drivers turn their lights on. 

that will then be lights to the front and lights to the rear, 

and dim the DRL's if they have dual usage units.

 

except if they are Dual units like on a vRS, also fitted to some cheaper Volvos and i notice some Porsches have the same unit fitted.. 

Which are still dead bright when sidelights, actually brighter than the dipped beam on standard early vRS. 

 

george