are they noticeable in practice? I'm trying to make up my mind

should I change 2.0 TDI 110HP to 140HP to have 6 speed manual transmission?

What would you prefer to have?

thanks 

are they noticeable in practice? I'm trying to make up my mind

should I change 2.0 TDI 110HP to 140HP to have 6 speed manual transmission?

What would you prefer to have?

thanks 

Yes. I had the 5 speed in my Yeti 110, and although speed was fine for me, the box used to struggle and shudder at low speed in 5th, requiring constant down shifts. I would imagine that the 140/6 speed is a much better combination. No doubt other will confirm.

I almost bought a Greenline, but was put off by the 5-speed box.  Have to say it drove OK on the test drive I had, but after having had 6 speed boxes in every car I've had since around 2003, it seemed a backward step to go back to 5.

I would have thought a 6th gear would help economy, so don't understand why the Greenline doesn't have it (extra weight issue possibly?)

The 6 speed box has a slicker change with a shorter throw gearlever.

5th in my Greenline has exactly the same rpm as 6th in my previous

170 tdi.

The gears are spaced out a little bit more with a slightly higher 1st gear.

Go even better and have a 6 speed DSG.......just my opinion

Seriously.....around town and short journeys then 5speed is ok. Longer journeys a 6 speed is better, being more economical and quieter.

Go even better and have a 6 speed DSG.......just my opinion

 

 

+ 1

We have 6 gears with our 110 diesel, is this because we have the 4x4 version

Go for the little engine 1.2 DSG..You get 7 gears and they work so well

We have 6 gears with our 110 diesel, is this because we have the 4x4 version

Yep.

All the 4x4 have the 6 speed box.

1st is quite a low ratio.Helps with off roading/towing horse boxes over wet grass ,etc.

Yep.

All the 4x4 have the 6 speed box.

1st is quite a low ratio.Helps with off roading/towing horse boxes over wet grass ,etc.

 

it's good to know because actually I am after 4x4 version. thanks

it's good to know because actually I am after 4x4 version. thanks

 

Case closed then!

+ 1

 

 

 

 WRONG!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

Should be +2 

 

 

 

 

Steve.

WRONG!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

Should be +2 

 

 

 

 

Steve.

Wrong again!

That should be +3 :p

I have had 6 speed Octavia's and now a 105 diesel with a 5 speed. I do think think it could do with slightly higher top gear and note the passat 105 has a 6 Speed. Still it's one less gear change, But the 5 speed box is still a good cruiser and fairly flexible.

 

I would have thought a 6th gear would help economy, so don't understand why the Greenline doesn't have it (extra weight issue possibly?)

I thought that the top gear ratios were the same for both 5 and 6 speed boxes.

 

tom

I thought that the top gear ratios were the same for both 5 and 6 speed boxes.

 

tom

 

If it is, it doesn't feel like it.

5th feels overly tall on the 1.6TDi.

I thought that the top gear ratios were the same for both 5 and 6 speed boxes.

 

tom

Yes (See post #4)

A five speed box is fine in a 70 or 86PS Fabia but anything with more power should have 6 speed, my take on it anyway.

 

 

TP

My understanding is that VAG use the six speed box to make better use of the torque band which seem to be getting narrower on modern diesels, more petrol like nowadays. Apparently it keeps the Co2 figures down.  I can't see why they would do six speed boxes for no reason as they must be more expensive to make.

6 speed boxes are more moolah for VAG to fork out on, so us 2wd 110ps Yeti owners get a 5 speed. My last car had a 5 speed, so I haven't noticed much difference tbh. What have I noticed? Well, as mentioned previously, you do have to shift down more often and I stalled my car (for the first time in years!) by being in too high a gear-my Accord had 138bhp and was a smoother engine overall, able to cope with low speed/high gears much better. I find the gearbox to be pretty smooth on the Yeti (it is new of course!)

I suppose that if you're forking out for 4x4, another benefit should be a more sophisticated 'box/transmission.

Edited 16 November, 201312 yr by fastestlouigie

Five gears? Oh yes - I've found it.

Seriously, we have the 2.0 cr 110 and five speed box seems adequate, but if 140bhp would help the flat response between 50 - 70mph

There are two main reasons for 6-speed (over 5):

• Marketing - to keep up with competitors
• Reduce engine rpm at cruising speed - for improved comfort

What is interesting is that for most 6-speed vehicles, max speed is achieved in 5th, 6th is usually over-stretched.

There are two main reasons for 6-speed (over 5):

• Marketing - to keep up with competitors
• Reduce engine rpm at cruising speed - for improved comfort

What is interesting is that for most 6-speed vehicles, max speed is achieved in 5th, 6th is usually over-stretched.

 

Not so sure that's correct actually.

 

A lot of ranges with a 5 and 6 speed give the same ratio in top gear.

 

The benefit is more closely spaced gears in the 6 speed, so you don't have to rev the engine so much before chaning gear.

 

In short, the 6 speed is therefore more flexible than the 5 speed and more relaxing to drive as you are not revving the engine so hard (noisier?) before changing gear.

There are two main reasons for 6-speed (over 5):

• Marketing - to keep up with competitors
• Reduce engine rpm at cruising speed - for improved comfort

What is interesting is that for most 6-speed vehicles, max speed is achieved in 5th, 6th is usually over-stretched.

 

And have you driven a 6 speed Yeti?

I think the 6 speed gearboxes may have a higher maximum torque input.

Some years back, I know that PD130 Passats with the 5-speed box had the engine detuned to give less peak torque than PD130s with the 6-speed box.

(Think they use a bigger clutch also? Not 100% sure though.)

 

The comment about max speed being achieved in 5th was certainly true on my PD130 Ibiza (on a standard engine anyway...).