Hmm, that's a good price with admiral. I've been getting comparison site punch drunk LOL.

If its any help when you try LV they only want to know its chipped and its the same mark up irrespective of the PS increase, which added 50 quid to the vRS. esure on the other hand wanted to know the power increase and as I'm looking at the CRDe it only added 15 so I'm getting closer, though I had to get a standard online quote with esure 1st then ring up to declare the box as the website won't quote direct for modded cars.

And the search goes on......

Though when I've been with annual in the past and wanted to add a remap it was a strict no.

As the % on the 110 going to 180 is so high, a simple chipped or not is good, but I'd worry about renewal time, especially as returning to stock wouldn't be an option.

Out of interest, his much would a cr140 ecu set me back pre loved so I could swap it for mine?

Great price Gyp. Maybe I should move to Gloucestershire; long way to Old Trafford though

Yes Mancs do support ManU, not just Londoners 

How would an insurance company know if the car was chipped any way?, just dont tell them!

I work for Aviva - we have our ways of checking.

Welcome to an invalid claim in the case of an accident and then as you've been driving you can add charges of driving without insurance to the fact we won't pay out for your car which you'll still have to keep paying for but not driving. If you've injured someone else and they sue you - you're on your own. Having your car mapped is your own choice and a material fact in your policy, failure to disclose the information can also be classed as fraud and in a few situations I've heard of other insurance companies file for charges against drives for fraud - then try insurance something more powerful than a BMX & you'll need a lottery win.

All over the fact you saved yourself a few £££ on not telling the insurance company - chances are it will only put the price up a little.

I work for Aviva - we have our ways of checking.

Welcome to an invalid claim in the case of an accident and then as you've been driving you can add charges of driving without insurance to the fact we won't pay out for your car which you'll still have to keep paying for but not driving. If you've injured someone else and they sue you - you're on your own. Having your car mapped is your own choice and a material fact in your policy, failure to disclose the information can also be classed as fraud and in a few situations I've heard of other insurance companies file for charges against drives for fraud - then try insurance something more powerful than a BMX & you'll need a lottery win.

All over the fact you saved yourself a few £££ on not telling the insurance company - chances are it will only put the price up a little.

 

What about somebody buying/owning a car that has one or two previous owners. You buy the car in good faith, not knowing about any upgrades which are effectively invisible to the owner.  :think:

Normally maps have dates stored within them - date written, date uploaded etc. So a map uploaded prior to your purchase is outwith your control - but knowingly getting your car mapped and not telling the insurance company is a no no!

I'm always amazed on forums, that in one post people are berating dealer techs as dumb spanner wielding monkeys who can't diagnose anything, to the next that paints them as ECU forensics experts that can tell if an ECU has ever been remapped in it's lifetime.

Disclaimer - not condoning the practice, just stating what is possible.....

The fact is that the vast majority of current ECU's on the market can be remapped, run for any length of period, mapped back to original, everything set back to factory defaults and no one, including the manufacturer/insurer would be the wiser. The same goes for tuning boxes like DTUK. If on the other hand, the remapped file/s are still in situ, and assuming it has a factory naming convention and no obvious identifiers within the file, you would then need to download the file and do a checksum comparison with an equivalent factory map file to verify any changes and determine that it was an after market file.

Recently some manufacturers including VAG are using file formats encrypted with a public key, so it has not been possible to easily remap these as you need access to the private key that created the public key or an ability to break it. This is making it harder to remap. In addition, increasingly manufacturers are fitting wireless SIM's to cars and gathering usage data. It's expected that the forthcoming EU directive to have all new cars fitted with a wireless SIM for auto contacting the emergency services, will increase this use of remote data capture. So looking forward over the next 5 years or so it will be increasingly difficult to remap in the first place and if successful harder to do it without the car manufacturer being aware.

Just to add my own experience to this..... I've been looking at Superb CR170 Elegance spec cars recently and have ended up buying a CR140 which had park assist and heated rear seats as options. It's a November 2010 60 plate with 29k on the clock and was a motability car so has had everything it's ever needed doing done to it etc... A similar aged & specced CR170 would have been around £800-1000 more than the CR140..... (Or for the same money as the CR140 i was looking at early 2010 10 plate CR170 cars).

 

Anyway my current insurer said a CR170 version would cost me approx £395 per year to insure but they wouldn't insure me for a remapped or chipped CR140. I had a quick look on GoCompare and entered the details in for the CR140 i've bought and also put in that it had been remapped/chipped. I got a price of £401 from LV, (There were a couple of cheaper ones but with companies i dont want to use), So a grand total of £6 difference!!!

 

 

 

Just got to decide whether to get a remap or a tuning box now..... Let the research commence.

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Dave.

Just got to decide whether to get a remap or a tuning box now..... Let the research commence.

 

 

Go down and see Ben at Shark... you will not be disappointed. 

Go down and see Ben at Shark... you will not be disappointed. 

 

i can vouch that 

Just got to decide whether to get a remap or a tuning box now..... Let the research commence.

One option, and tends to be the best if possible, is an ECU remap done specifically for your car on a rolling road. Also tends to be the most expensive.

Another remap option is a standard remap designed for your make of vehicle. No bespoke tuning but still good in most cases.

For tuning boxes, there are more advanced tuning box like DTUK's that is multichannel and offers various states of tune.

The 4th best and cheapest option is a single Channel fuel map box.

Pro's of a good tuning box like DTUK are that you can self install and remove at any time in about 10 minutes. You can also use them again on another car with a different cable and reprogram.

Cheers

Steve

Anyway my current insurer said a CR170 version would cost me approx £395 per year to insure but they wouldn't insure me for a remapped or chipped CR140. I had a quick look on GoCompare and entered the details in for the CR140 i've bought and also put in that it had been remapped/chipped. I got a price of £401 from LV, (There were a couple of cheaper ones but with companies i dont want to use), So a grand total of £6 difference!!!

 

Just done the same quotes for mine as renewal is soon

 

£376 cheapest quote for standard (with £100 excess or £363 with £250 excess) with Hastings

 

£464 cheapest for a remap with LV

 

Bizarrely, if I had a remap, and lower it with non standard wheels its less at £429, again with LV

 

Weird!

That sounds like the excuse you need to replace the alloys and get it lowered then fella.

Cheers

Dave.

Strange question in regard to this...... Is it as much a no-no to set up or start the policy as having the remap or tuning box fitted if you intend on having it done or fitted within the frst month or so of the policy rather than having to add the remap part of things a month or so after the policy begins???

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Dave.

I would set the policy up on the basis of having a remap or box fitted at the start of the policy, otherwise you would incur admin fees to amend your policy.  

 

I have to wait until October for my existing policy with DL to finish, before I can fit my tuning box.

I would set the policy up on the basis of having a remap or box fitted at the start of the policy, otherwise you would incur admin fees to amend your policy.

I have to wait until October for my existing policy with DL to finish, before I can fit my tuning box.

Also means you can compare modded policy prices and get best value long term rather than taking the best value for an unmodded policy and getting humped when they hike your policy up for the remap

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People who argue that some mods can be easily reversed to fool an insurance company overlook one nagging possibility: that the accident your modded car has just been in has broken your spine.  You get air-lifted out to casualty while the insurance company combs over your wreck in a police compound.

According to a couple of recent customers LV are charging approx £25 to add an "engine chip" to their policies

Yes, they seem to be the best company for remapped vehicles on the search engine sites

Very tempted to get a dtuk box myself soon and go with lv when my insurance renews in july