Just wondering if this is common or whether it might be related to the shunt I got 2 weeks after getting the car.

 

It feels like the car shimmies sideways slightly when going over a minor bump ie change in surfacing with a slight level change. The car has Bridgestones on (225/50W17) and I have noticed the rears seem to wear pretty quick as they were new in Nov and already down to about 5 mm (the alignment was checked at the time as the previous tyres were wearing the insides).

 

Didn't notice it early on but that might have been a case of rose tinted glasses.

I'd suggest a decent four wheel alignment check.

Sounds like a well-known phenomenon called "tramlining", not uncommon with Bridgestones on high pressures. Happens on my Subaru. Reducing tyre pressures a bit all round may help?

My Yeti has done this from new, with Dunlops, with Bridgestones and with continentals it feels like the back end steps out a tad when traversing a bump or a manhole etc.

 

 I think it has been discussed a long time ago in the Yeti forum and it was agreed it was normal, even though my Yeti does this it does not wear tyres in an odd fashion or have any adverse handling issues.

I'd suggest a decent four wheel alignment check.

Might be tempted to get the alignment rechecked.

 

James - that is exactly the sort of behaviour I am on about - a slight sideways skip.

 

Reassuring that it is not just my motor then.

 

I do have to say even with this very minor issue, the yeti is probably my favourite car that I have driven (on a par with a Golf GTI Mk2 company car which had been chipped by my boss prior to me having it - went round corners like it was on rails and went like stink! 110 bhp on a car body with no weight in it = :happy: ).

 

Now if I could get the MPG above 35 mpg I would be in heaven! :p

I'd suggest getting the alignment checked at a specialist (ie not the likes of Kwik-Fit).

 

Not much use to you, but there's a specialist alignment centre in Nottingham that I use, they have pukka Hunter alignment gear and know how to use it.

 

My experience of getting alignment checked at fast fit tyre places has never been good. 

The Hunter kit is good.

They have the same where I go.

 

Also, for info, I don't have this on my car.

Well I've certainly never noticed it and I've done 28k miles now.

I am running the factory fitted Pirelli P Zero tyres still.

Think this is an early production Yeti trait to some extent. My first 59 plate 140 was skittish on poor road surfaces and that had Goodyear tyres; much improved mind by switching to 205/55 R16 winters. Also some of the motoring press commented on it as well.

 

Current 11 plate Yeti is free of it bar tram-lining but that is purely the useless summer Conti's, note though I'm on factory 215/60 R16 tyres.

 

Oh one other thing Yeti's from August 2010 got a new front suspension set-up which I think also improved things.

 

Re the wear if its a greater rate than the front but fairly even across the tred I'd get the Haldex checked.

 

 

TP

Think this is an early production Yeti trait to some extent. My first 59 plate 140 was skittish on poor road surfaces and that had Goodyear tyres; much improved mind by switching to 205/55 R16 winters. Also some of the motoring press commented on it as well.

 

Current 11 plate Yeti is free of it bar tram-lining but that is purely the useless summer Conti's, note though I'm on factory 215/60 R16 tyres.

 

Oh one other thing Yeti's from August 2010 got a new front suspension set-up which I think also improved things.

 

Re the wear if its a greater rate than the front but fairly even across the tred I'd get the Haldex checked.

 

 

TP

 

That's interesting TP.

 

Do you know what the changes were?

 

Wondering if I need to retrofit the newer set up to my 59 plate project car or if upgrading the shocks, springs and ARBs will erase the need.

I haven't noticed our 2013 CR140   step out in the manner described. Factory fitted Conti's ( I think), currently on Good-Year UG 8's and steels.

I haven't noticed our 2013 CR140   step out in the manner described. Factory fitted Conti's ( I think), currently on Good-Year UG 8's and steels.

 

I took the 2009 project car out, then my 2012 one.

You can actually notice the difference.

 

It certainly doesn't feel as "planted" on the road.  IMO.

 

Looks like TP is right and it's why the suspension or something in that area was revised.

Does this help?

 

Customer statement: "When driving through a bend or over uneven road surfaces, the vehicle’s rear end is instable".

 

Technical background: "This may be caused by the torn off rubber-metal bearing of the rear axle tie rod".

 

 

Production change:

The surface treatment of the material has been changed since 07.2010. The vehicles manufactured in 07.2010 and later are already after the measure.

 

Rectification:

 

Check integrity of rear axle tie rod by levering against a solid point on the axle and make the rod move by slightly pulling the lever.

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The bearings can be examined directly on the vehicle without removing them.

 

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Thanks to its deformation, an undamaged/intact rubber-metal bearing enables the tie-rod to be slightly moved; this movement is normal and desirable.

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An excessive and free movement of the bearing in the tie-rod indicates a damaged tie-rod.

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The tie-rod is not required to be replaced as a pair; replace only the faulty part.

That's interesting TP.

 

Do you know what the changes were?

 

Wondering if I need to retrofit the newer set up to my 59 plate project car or if upgrading the shocks, springs and ARBs will erase the need.

 

Hi Richard,

 

apologies but I missed your request for further info. If you look at the RRP guide you can see the original cast aluminium front assembly carrier and the associated horizontal attached rear console bushes on the wish bones. Later cars from the beginning of August 2010 had an amended steel front carrier with vertical secured bushes at the back of the wish bone.

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/170104-rough-road-pack/

 

 

TP

Hi Richard,

apologies but I missed your request for further info. If you look at the RRP guide you can see the original cast aluminium front assembly carrier and the associated horizontal attached rear console bushes on the wish bones. Later cars from the beginning of August 2010 had an amended steel front carrier with vertical secured bushes at the back of the wish bone.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/170104-rough-road-pack/

TP

Thanks TP.

I'll look at swapping them over on the 1.8tsi I recently bought as it's going to get some heavy use at speed.

Can you update us BossFox as I'm looking at an early '10' plate Yeti purchase soon.

Had a good look today and it appears that the rear tracking is way off. Had new tyres fitted in November and they have now worm to the wear indicators on the outside. The front of the tyres appears to be toed indramatically which means that the tyres acres constantly pushing inwards hence the skipping feeling when going over a bump( had a mate follow me and he describes it "as the weight comes off the tyres at a bump it appears to jump outwards"). Going to go back to national tyres tomorrow morning and have a little word with the manager!

My very early 59 (almost as early as they go) is and always has been fine on its original Goodyear summer tyres, their replacement Yokohamas and the 16'' Falken winters that it's presently on.

 

Tyre wear is and always has been reasonably even both front to rear and across the entire width of tyre treads.  IE no excessive shoulder wear.  I am reasonably gentle on it most of the time but an occasional heavy right boot around damp roundabouts is always dealt with confidently by the car with no fear of anything dodgy about to happen.

Can you update us BossFox as I'm looking at an early '10' plate Yeti purchase soon.

 

Will do, I'll be onto Preston Motors tomorrow for the cost of the new parts.

If I was doing daily stuff I'm not sure I'd bother though.

 

Car has done 35k miles.  Will check them for wear when they come off.

My Yeti does this, however, on the original Dunlops all tyres wore out evenly, on Bridgestones I saw the rears wear from the outside in, then I had Continentals and these wore evenly and now back on Dunlops and I imagine these will wear evenly too. With all tyres the phenomenon is still present.

 I have had no 4 wheel alignment checked at all and had the car from Brand new.

 

 Just to add some confusion    Just add you can feel it more when travelling alone, load the car up and you can hardly notice.

 Just to add some confusion    Just add you can feel it more when travelling alone, load the car up and you can hardly notice.

 

So not ideal if you are stripped over 100kg out then...

I wouldn't of thought so, saying that though, it does not cause an issue, just a "feel" when you go over a bump, Yeti doesn't step the back end out and kill a cyclist or anything like that.

Had a good look today and it appears that the rear tracking is way off. Had new tyres fitted in November and they have now worm to the wear indicators on the outside. The front of the tyres appears to be toed indramatically which means that the tyres acres constantly pushing inwards hence the skipping feeling when going over a bump( had a mate follow me and he describes it "as the weight comes off the tyres at a bump it appears to jump outwards"). Going to go back to national tyres tomorrow morning and have a little word with the manager!

Most places like National can only check front wheel alignment. They hang laser pointers off the front wheels, which shine back at simple measuring gauges hung off the rear wheels. 

 

I had a similar handling effect on my last Passat - when I drove in a straight line over rumble strips at reasonable speed, the front end would shuffle sideways noticeably, while the back stayed straight. In that case, it was due to a worn out damper.

My Yeti does this, however, on the original Dunlops all tyres wore out evenly, on Bridgestones I saw the rears wear from the outside in, then I had Continentals and these wore evenly and now back on Dunlops and I imagine these will wear evenly too. With all tyres the phenomenon is still present.

 I have had no 4 wheel alignment checked at all and had the car from Brand new.

There used to be a common issue with new Mk4 Ibizas (and Polos of the same era, same car under the skin) that they would rapidly wear the inside edges of the front tyres (I spotted mine when it was down to the canvas).

This was as they left the factory.

 

A decent alignment job cured the problem. Don't assume the factory settings are correct!

Been in to National and had a bit of an argument with the manager. Eventually they have offered 2 new bridgestones as the originals "might have been faulty".

 

Taking the car to an independent that I trust at lunch time (on the new boots) to get the entire rear suspension set up checked from wheel bearings to dampers to tracking.

Been in to National and had a bit of an argument with the manager. Eventually they have offered 2 new bridgestones as the originals "might have been faulty".

 

Taking the car to an independent that I trust at lunch time (on the new boots) to get the entire rear suspension set up checked from wheel bearings to dampers to tracking.

Interesting update (which means I can never go back to National Tyres local branch) is that the independent garage I got to look at it have advised that it appears that the rear axle has been bent presumably at the time of the shunt. Looks like the exhaust had been pushed back in to the nearside rear axle pushing it out of alignment.

 

Now got the original repairers looking at rectifying it under warranty - why didn't I insist on Skoda doing the original repairs?

 

Funnily enough it does feel a lot happier on the new boots though - not the same amount of sideways travel.