Yes.

These, along with wind up torch, warning triangle and camera are supplied as part of the safety kit in our company cars.

I once stopped to see if I could held soon changing a wheel on a dark and fast country road. Offered him a spare hi viz vest to get the response " I'm no seeing that an looking like a pratt". Decided I wasn't taking risks for an idiot and left him to it.

Yes of course it should!

If that guy who dashed to help the jumper from the motorway bridge recently  had been wearing one he might still be alive today.

I am not usually in favour of frivolous legislation per se, but this one makes such obvious common sense who can possibly object?

Also warning triangles may help to eliminate the few drivers mowed down every year on the hard shoulder. Anything that saves lives, without imposing too much on the individual I'm in favour of.

YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE.

No, we have enough pointless laws already

Yes of course it should!

If that guy who dashed to help the jumper from the motorway bridge recently  had been wearing one he might still be alive today.

I am not usually in favour of frivolous legislation per se, but this one makes such obvious common sense who can possibly object?

Also warning triangles may help to eliminate the few drivers mowed down every year on the hard shoulder. Anything that saves lives, without imposing too much on the individual I'm in favour of.

YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE.

 

Just because he had one in the car doesn't mean he would use it. He was in a rush so probably wouldn't have stopped to find it. If he would have taken the extra time to find then he probably would have had one in the car already. 

 

Roads are dangerous and you can only do so much to stop being getting killed. 

Yes.

But then I do anyway.

 

Same her, always one on the back seat.  some times I fasten it around the passenger seat back rest, surprised at how many cars pull over and let you by

Going of topic here slightly good idea in cars I carry two all the time.Why do beat police officers wear them all the time now as part of there uniform. I get it that there senior officers want them to be high profile so we think there are more of them than there actually are,but to me it warns every scroat within range that they are coming allowing them to escape.Its much the same with roadside speed checks decked out like ice cream vans warning everybody that they are there,now if it was unmarked you would catch twice as many and the long term effect safer roads, as you would never know were they were. The point is these high viz jackets should only be used were they are rely needed,not like the police on foot as some kind of advertising item of clothing,all these side uses lessen there real saftey impact.

To the question about what is my point, quite simply, because something is a good idea does not mean it should be forced upon the entire population by means of yet more legislation.

As I said above there is enough unecessary and unenforced legislation already.

You may choose to do something, as may I, that doesn't warrant more laws.

 

I was more playing Devil's advocate with my reply. Badly it seems :( It was late

I carry one for myself(its in the box under the seat) but as I hardly have passengers I don't have others but I might just go buy some cheap ones for an possible trip to the alps...

Yes of course it should!

If that guy who dashed to help the jumper from the motorway bridge recently  had been wearing one he might still be alive today.

I am not usually in favour of frivolous legislation per se, but this one makes such obvious common sense who can possibly object?

Also warning triangles may help to eliminate the few drivers mowed down every year on the hard shoulder. Anything that saves lives, without imposing too much on the individual I'm in favour of.

YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE.

 

Just because he had one in the car doesn't mean he would use it. He was in a rush so probably wouldn't have stopped to find it. If he would have taken the extra time to find then he probably would have had one in the car already. Roads are dangerous and you can only do so much to stop being getting killed. 

 

 

 

 

Going of topic here slightly good idea in cars I carry two all the time.Why do beat police officers wear them all the time now as part of there uniform. I get it that there senior officers want them to be high profile so we think there are more of them than there actually are,but to me it warns every scroat within range that they are coming allowing them to escape.Its much the same with roadside speed checks decked out like ice cream vans warning everybody that they are there,now if it was unmarked you would catch twice as many and the long term effect safer roads, as you would never know were they were. The point is these high viz jackets should only be used were they are rely needed,not like the police on foot as some kind of advertising item of clothing,all these side uses lessen there real saftey impact.

I hope speed scamera vans never become unmarked

They all have to be visible same as the fixed ones now all need to be yellow so they can't play sneaky buggers.

If you are telling me that you have never sped then i will call you a lier

At least with a Hi Viz jacket on you have the OPPORTUNITY of being seen. Without one you just merge into 50 shades of grey (as E L James would say). I have 4 in my car, but this is a legacy from living in Spain, where you got an on the spot fine of 200 Euros for not having them.

Makes sense to me. If fines can be imposed for eating an apple at the wheel, I don't see how this one would be any harder to enforce & if it only saves one life it's got to be worth it. Anyway as I understand the European law & certainly in Spain

 

 

Just because he had one in the car doesn't mean he would use it. He was in a rush so probably wouldn't have stopped to find it. If he would have taken the extra time to find then he probably would have had one in the car already. Roads are dangerous and you can only do so much to stop being getting killed. 

 

At least with a Hi Viz jacket on you have the OPPORTUNITY of being seen. Without one you just merge into 50 shades of grey (as E L James would say). I have 4 in my car, (hardly takes up any space) but this is a legacy from living in Spain, where you got an on the spot fine of 200 Euros for not having them.

Makes sense to me. If fines can be imposed for eating an apple at the wheel, I don't see how this one would be any harder to enforce & if it only saves one life it's got to be worth it. Anyway as I understand the European law & certainly in Spain, you only get fined for not having them. Whether you wear one or not, the choice is yours.

I get confused when people quote themselves

Is there a new craze amongst the older drivers of wearing Hi viz vests when driving around?

I'm increasingly seeing older drivers with them on

I hope speed scamera vans never become unmarked

They all have to be visible same as the fixed ones now all need to be yellow so they can't play sneaky buggers.

If you are telling me that you have never sped then i will call you a lier

There isn't such a requirement legally. It's only an Acpo recommendation

Having changed a couple of wheels on motorway hard shoulder including one on live side of M1, I would have no objection to it

 

38 tons whistling past at 60mph 3ft from your back isn't funny

I always carry a high vis bomber jacket in the boot so if I brake down I am both warm and visible.Plus it comes in handy if you go to a car meet where you're walking around, so it provides warmth,dryness and people don't bump into you as you look like a fluorescent lolly pop

I would and do carry one.

 

It weighs almost nothing, in vest form. The idea of a warmer one is wise, often it's going to be raining or you were on your way and didn't think about standing for 3hours in a easterly wind.

 

I did cost up some 'club' high vis, jackets and vests. Seemed like a good plan, we should all have them... But it's a commodity item now, cheapest vendor wins, so I could not get anywhere near the prices you can pick em up for. Unless I order 10,000 from China.

 

No excuse not to have something, if only to put over the drain pipe you collect from the diy store.

Over the last decade I have lost several motorway maintenance colleagues to drivers who didn't see them (despite hi viz) - so know it isn't the complete answer.

Driver behaviour is more important - but a £3  Hi Viz vest may save your life especially on a dark wet night - your choice.

 

Here are my tips to stop people killing my workmates:-

 

A red cross over a lane means it is closed so it is an offence to pass under it at any speed.

Orange message board 'Workforce in road - slow down'  ....... what do you think it means ?

if you miss your exit (or it is closed) - go to the next one and come back. Sure it costs you time - but better 10 minutes late in this life than very early in the next one.

 

Sorry if this is a bit heavy - but I am damaged   - so feel the need to try + educate.

 

If Hi viz vests need ordering in bulk to keep the price down how about a bright Briskoda badge - especially for fastening onto a high viz vest

Just adding that if I end up on fire going backwards through the pearly gates I hope not to take anyone along for the ride who wasn't prepared 

...... and wearing a hi viz jacket is optional

If you are going to carry high-viz clothing in the car, it's no b****y good having it in the boot, you need it in the passenger compartment with you. That way you can put it on before you get out.

I carry three in the front of the car with a couple more in the boot. I prefer the orange ones to yellow, British Rail did a great deal of practical research in all sorts of conditions to establish the most visible colour. If orange is better on a 125 mph railway then it'll do me on a 70 mph road.

With regard to other useful to have with you items, fire extinguisher, first aid kit, spare bulbs, warning triangle, full sized spare wheel (wouldn't buy a car which can't carry one), torch, spare container of screenwash, it's all there. If it's cold there will also be a container of salt and a shovel. To me, all of this makes sense. If you feel otherwise, that is your choice and I wouldn't want to make you carry them (I might try to convince you that it is a good plan though).

Even with high viz gear, I wouldn't attempt a wheel change on a motorway without some professional cover. It's just too risky with the number of wazzocks out there with no imagination.

Bad idea in my opinion, 99.9% of the time I drive with only me in the car, but because sometimes I visit my mum on a Sunday and on one of these days we might want to go somewhere I should have 2? And on 0.1% of these days I might get a puncture that is on the right hand side of the car or break down so on about 0.001% of my journeys I might need 2 jackets and that's if I can be bothered to get it out or can find them anyway, and I don't drive far so a slow puncture wouldn't be any bother and the road is quiet on a busy day with lots of even quieter roads coming off of it that you can turn off to. So on the rare event that I need 1 jacket there is still a wasted one and even then no cars will come.

I know the road conditions are different for everyone and people do travel long distances on motorways regularly but there is a hard shoulder and if the puncture is on the left then you're fine anyway.

It shouldn't be illegal not to have one because some people simply don't need one, as for making it an MOT failure I know what I'd do, get together with some people and buy 5, take a car in for its MOT, ask everyone whose MOT is next and give them to them...

This law would never be able to be enforced, not in a million years, they can't enforce the law to stop people from using mobile phones and ask yourself which is more important!

Cars are going round with blown bulbs, bald tyres, heavily tinted windscreens etc and you want people to ave high-vis jackets to make people see them better?

Sorry about the one paragraph post above, that wasn't the way I typed it. The forum editor is playing silly b*****s today.

If you break down, hazards and handbrake on then exit the vehicle via the passenger door and stand well away from the vehicle until assistance arrives.

 

Quite frankly I'd rather have a thick warm jacket, gloves, hat and a mobile phone rather than a hi-vis vest.

 

Offside puncture on the motorway or fast road? Then I'd rather drive to a place of safety on the rim than attempt to change the spare on the hard shoulder, hi-vis or not.

How not to change a tyre, even if you have all the safety equipment as the guy in the second clip..

 

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yITvFRSPSeE