It's aimed squarely at the young outdoor types who want off road but look cool around town without spending evoke money.

oooh does that mean I am a young outdoor type

I've got a dog, do I qualify. 

oooh does that mean I am a young outdoor type

Maybe.

But

You are a 'chick'. )))))

I don't think at my age I can be called a chick. I look more like a ruddy ostrich Anyhoo

I don't think at my age I can be called a chick. I look more like a ruddy ostrich Anyhoo

It wes said with TIC. ))))

It wes said with TIC. ))))

You still aren't endearing yourself to me with that comment you know :p

From OUR perspective

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/suvs-could-overtake-car-sales-january-figures-suggest-39527?utm_source=cg&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=theguide

If I had the spare 'readies'

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/new-defender-more-capable-that-original-20150402-1mdy6t.html

The Panda Cross?

https://youtu.be/qglqhHmbM6g

Edited 9 February, 201610 yr by Ryeman

So my Dad and Step mum had one of these a few weeks back as a courtesy car when suddenly their Ford B-Max decided neither key would work to start it!

 

They actually really liked it. It was a decent spec with sat-nav, heated leather, Bluetooth etc. Also had a really nice looking big colour screen in the instrument cluster.

 

It was the 1.4 turbo petrol and it went very well apparently!

 

They said the ride was a bit harsh though and didn't feel any quicker than the 1.0 ecoboost in the Ford.

I'd only get a Renegade if I wanted a 4x4 as I personally think there are better crossovers out there for general use. And some of the colours are 'challenging', possibly even more so than the Vitara's

Or this......a bit exy out here though

http://www.motoring.com.au/fiat-500x-2016-review-101180/

I like the 500X but love the Panda Cross (especially the previous version) even more

I like the 500X but love the Panda Cross (especially the previous version) even more

I know, me too..........VERY tempting for one trying to reform ))))

The only thing that put me off them was the weedy engines. If they put a nippy 1.4 petrol or diesel into a Cross it would be top of my list

Dunno

Our 1.2 is not short of shove and light over the front also.

Small is getting much better these days and cruising economy is great .....averaging 5L/100km (57mpg imp) over its 15,000kms.

The diesel used to be a less powerful version of the Punto engine and the petrol wasn't really in keeping with the character of the car I felt. Mind you there is a parking spot for one in my fantasy garage

I'd have a renegade tomorrow if they were cheap enough. I think they look smart. Then again, I do like weird cars, I have a dog turd brown Peugeot 3008 after all.

The only thing that put me off them was the weedy engines. If they put a nippy 1.4 petrol or diesel into a Cross it would be top of my list

 

I dunno... they do a 1.4 petrol with 168bhp paired with a 9 speed auto gearbox.

I dunno... they do a 1.4 petrol with 168bhp paired with a 9 speed auto gearbox.

Not in the Cross though :(

I dunno... they do a 1.4 petrol with 168bhp paired with a 9 speed auto gearbox.

PHIL, a 9 speed auto will give a teensy bit better placarded figures only

And

Hunt like crazy on the road

No thanks.

Best try driving one, they certainly do not hunt.

9 speed is almost just like CVT (Subaru Lineatronic gearbox)  seamless and gets the best from the engines, economy and performance.

A bit like a 7speed DSG with a 1.4 tsi VW engine.

Hunting was specifically one of the complaints I read.

I hate 'busy' gearboxes as I'm an old 'non wear n tear' type.

The fuel and emission savings are false economy to me as a potential long term owner.

The old Fiat CVT was shocking, I test drove a cancelled Far East order convertible Punto with one fitted. The dealer took me around a flat route, I insisted on finding a steep hill, the damn thing mooed like a cow until it found its take up point, and then proceeded to moo every time I booted it. Horrible device.