First go for better tyres (rubber) by going up to sports class.

Ususally these have soft rubbers and great grip.

Then your dampers must have proper rebound setup.

Then go for LSD with up to 40% engagement for best 0-100km starts or 25-30% for cornering.

The others (traction control solutions, etc) are the last steps.

Of course the cost is accumulative...

Originally posted by Loukas in this post

First go for better tyres (rubber) by going up to sports class.

Ususally these have soft rubbers and great grip.

Then your dampers must have proper rebound setup.

Then go for LSD with up to 40% engagement for best 0-100km starts or 25-30% for cornering.

The others (traction control solutions, etc) are the last steps.

Of course the cost is accumulative...

Dave,

I would concur with the above which also gives other benefits apart from traction.

Des

Originally posted by ffelan in this post

http://www.turntablelab.com/index-images/britney.jpg

enjoy...

They are definately not real. Although I could do with a rub, just to be sure...

Oh, I'm sure they're real alright!! Just not Britney's

Originally posted by Witchfinder in this post

They are definately not real. Although I could do with a rub, just to be sure...

I'm reliably informed she chose them herself, straight out of a catalogue

Originally posted by Loukas in this post

First go for better tyres (rubber) by going up to sports class.

Ususally these have soft rubbers and great grip.

Then your dampers must have proper rebound setup.

Then go for LSD with up to 40% engagement for best 0-100km starts or 25-30% for cornering.

The others (traction control solutions, etc) are the last steps.

Of course the cost is accumulative...

Thanks Loukas (+ Des)

But can you explain to a layman about the dampers having proper rebound setup?

The KW v2+v3 have adjustable rebound damping which would be quite handy as i'm planning to get one of these.....

Also I thought LSDs were of real benefit when motoring round corners rather than standing starts as you're more likely to have both wheels spinning equally for a standing start no?

Dave

Dave, the problem with the LSD is that if you fitted one that was agressive enough for worst case scenarios it would spoil the drive of the car day to day... where as the race logic can be turned up or down or off dependednt on mood/conditions..

sadly unlike GT3 the lsd is not adjustable...

aggressive LSD.....it this not what the Focus RS has........awesome on track and bit of a pig on the road??

Dave,

To have best starts you need the front tyres to be on best grip.

During accelaration the front part of any car moves up so the front tyres are pushed less.

With stiffer rebound this effect is less so the grip is best.

The KW's V2,3 are OK and i'm considering them for me too.

From standing starts an LSD with 40% engagement is better than an open diff where if one wheel is spinning the start is slow.

It's better to spin two wheels or one?

My recomendation is that if you setup the previous two (tyres & suspension) properly the LSD maybe not needed for best standing starts.

Now if you want to do almost everything (starts, cornering) The LSD at 30% is very good with good handling at very close corners. In open corners is the best.

Be aware that an LSD may worse things in cornering especially if you setup at more than 40%.

Originally posted by SkodiRS in this post

aggressive LSD.....it this not what the Focus RS has........awesome on track and bit of a pig on the road??

I have a quiafe... 3 of em (different motors)

the RS Focus has the same type Quaife (ATB type) I believe.

It does tug on uneven roads, but does'nt spin up an inside wheel.

Traction is superb as a consequence.

Not nasty, just an aquired taste I guess. Traction rules!

Originally posted by badger5 in this post

Traction rules!

Agreed

lateral grip rules....

in snow?

whats snow.. i live in chorley?

Next time it snows, I challenge you to a timed run of lock lane (the cobbled lane nr me).

np will whup your ass...

Originally posted by ffelan in this post

np will whup your ass...

Originally posted by ffelan in this post

lateral grip rules....

LOL.... got that too

Totally agree tho.

Originally posted by delcac in this post

Silence from a 4x4 owner.

Des

no we are on for 25 now.. but i cant use the camaro...

Originally posted by Tavia4x4 in this post

in snow?

Aha...

Well erm.... (looks for book of excuses)...... Nah I give in :p

4x rules..... (except on track ) - on the one day a year it might snow

:cheers:

bill

sorry des, we're busy insulting each other via MSN.