I really like several cars in the Audi range but I really like my Skodas too. Some of the negative comments round here these days are almost making that taboo it seems :(

 

 

It does seem to be a frowned upon thing here now to actually like Skodas.

 

I bought my Rapid because I like it. Plenty here don't like it. Does that make me an idiot or mean I should've spent I don't know how much more on an A3 or an Octavia? No, I like it, it's really that simple.

Although the vag group "share" components it's not necessarily "the same " components , although they start out as being the base components each branch of the group then fettles said component to suit their needs, especially the engines and drive trains plus the suspension and platforms, hence the difference in cost to the customer .

Skoda is and always will be the poor relation and audi being the top dog, to say the engines are the same is plain wrong although the base may be , however how it's put together its certainly not the same , the level of refinement is so different in each branch of vag

The fabia and rapid are poorly put together IMO as is the citigo and up/mii , the seats are really getting much better than they used to but skoda seem to be loosing the battle and providing customers with poorly put together cars , I've owned nearly 10 skodas over the years and since the mk2 octy I've not been impressed , the superb2 I had was good but not a patch on a mk2 octy or a passat , son has a A5 and its a cracking car so I would be tempted to have a octy again when build quality returns, don't get me wrong I'm not saying skodas a crap they're not but they are not in the same league as the rest of the vag group and not as great value they used to be either, so skoda bring the quality and refinement up and you will be half way there !

Well my fabia has the 3 cylinder diesel, sounds like it was made by Massey ferguson!!!!!! Lol

But Funny that the whole engine is stamped with VW and the Audi Rings........

Well my fabia has the 3 cylinder diesel, sounds like it was made by Massey ferguson!!!!!! Lol

But Funny that the whole engine is stamped with VW and the Audi Rings........

Lol you've probably got the best engine the vag group ever produced

Although the vag group "share" components it's not necessarily "the same " components 

 

They are the same. Hence the Audi rings stamped on all the components in VAG cars. If they were different VAG would never make any money.  

 

 

each branch of the group then fettles said component to suit their needs, especially the engines and drive trains plus the suspension and platforms,

 

Maybe some suspension components.....ie an A3 has different front lower arm bushes than a Mk2 Octavia, but the engines and drive trains are the same......you know that S-Tronic is just a DSG right?! 

Lol you've probably got the best engine the vag group ever produced

All the best VAG engines have more the 4 cylinders

^^ son has a audi like yours and that car scares me ! Its scary quick and drinks fuel

They are the same. Hence the Audi rings stamped on all the components in VAG cars. If they were different VAG would never make any money.

Maybe some suspension components.....ie an A3 has different front lower arm bushes than a Mk2 Octavia, but the engines and drive trains are the same......you know that S-Tronic is just a DSG right?!

The overall design is similar but some if the components are actually different..

I will let you order parts for a golf and see if they all fit an octavia.

Erm, yep I'm pretty sure the front wings on a Golf won't fit my Octavia.

 

However almost everything under the bonnet stamped with the Audi and VW logo's will.

The overall design is similar but some if the components are actually different..

 

Yes, a few components are different.....like body panels and a lot (but not all) of the interior. 

 

 

I will let you order parts for a golf and see if they all fit an octavia.

 

I already have, and they do fit! If you take the cars down to component level, I imagine 90-95% of the components are common between the two cars.  

Good stuff

...the superb2 I had was good but not a patch on a mk2 octy or a passat...

Well I got to say I went from a 2006 Passat to a 2009 Superb and the Passat was rubbish by comparison to the Superb, even setting aside the factory build quality issues requiring the VW to be off the road for 3 weeks within the first two months of ownership while they re-welded the rear end, it also had the worst creaking dash I have ever experienced, had fuel pump, turbo and clutch failure at various points over 3 yrs 63k miles, whereas the Superb only required a DPF sensor after about 60k and the interior was much more solid, did 88k over 4 years, brilliant car, build quality much better than my current MkIII Octy, and I would say Octy II FL is on par with Superb II for build quality, but I agree that latest cars are not as well screwed together, but Octy III masks some of the build quality corner cutting with massive leap forward on infotainment and extra gadgets.

Just my opinion before anyone shoots me down in flames but I am comparing cars that I have driven lots of miles and also SWMBO has had a MkII FL Octy for almost 5 yrs now, so feel well qualified to comment.

The passat of that age was left behind somewhat and not quite cutting edge.

The octavia fl mk2 was gd but still not quite upto vw golf interior IMHO but still very good. Same goes now for mk3

On one hand we are saying the cars are the same but on the other only skodas are reliable. Same parts same failure rate. Good and bad cars I'm afraid. No matter the brand

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all share the same floorpan with golfs, audis, seats, lamborgini and bugatti to name a few. VAGs are just superior in my opinion for value, build quality and performance. another league above the likes of ford and vauxhall which are still decades behind. yet you can pick up decent a4s and octavias cheap nowadays

the mk 1 octavia came above the golf mk 4 in build quality reviews back in the day aswell. interesting really.

my dad has a mk 2 facelift and he openly admits the my mk 1 is just another level of build quality. proper bargains skodas are especially older ones

The mk1 octy is better than the mk2 fl you mean?

It's been a fantastic covert marketing plan from the suits in skoda head office, tell them its the same underneath well it worked ! , I'm not being disrespectful to skoda wouldn't dream of it , I've had so many from the estelles all the way to superb and fabia and octy and up to 2000 the cars where good value and well built , I'm sure that's around the time vw bought skoda out ( I'm not sure ) however over the years they have become far close in financially / price wise to vw and audi you really need to think twice before purchasing, I agree a hell of a lot of "bits" are shared underneath but and its a big but ! , they are not glued together the same as I said previously the only cars that are identical underneath are the citigo,mii and up , why because aren't they made in the same factory side by side ?, if you have top bosses in vw saying " why would anyone buy a audi instead of a skoda"! Its a marketing ploy to sell more skodas, does that mean they (skoda) are not as good ? I'd say no they are "nearly as good " , as said previous " skoda does not make engines " all skoda do are body panels and a few bits, there is no such thing as skodas anymore nor seat as they are vag cars with different dresses on , if I could choose between , octy ,golf and a3 I would go for the octy ! As its much better looking ! But would have to be a L&K to be up to the quality of golf , however its not up to me "wife is the boss " and after the ****ing **** of a dealer in waunfawr that's never going to happen now I think :(

Wish my Audi had a Skoda engine in, it wouldn't be such a pain in the arse to work on.

Hahha ! Class

JRJG

 skoda does not make engines, all skoda do are body panels and a few bits

 

"The on-site engine production hall supplies 3-cylinder engines, the 1.2 MPI, as well as the modern, supercharged TSI engines to ŠKODA cars and to other brands of the Volkswagen Group. Another important role of ŠKODA’s main plant in Mladá Boleslav is the production of MQ100 and MQ200 gearboxes, axles and other car components."

 

The passat of that age was left behind somewhat and not quite cutting edge.

Interesting comment that, as at the time it was less than 12 months into production of supposedly a new generation, in fact the current Passat still on sale dates back to the same model launched in 2005, even has the same basic dashboard architecture but a new model is finally due later this year based on stretched MQB platform and will underpin next generation of Skoda Superb due 2015.

It's been a fantastic covert marketing plan from the suits in skoda head office, tell them its the same underneath well it worked !

 

Don't think I have ever heard any Skoda marketing make that claim......most of the hot air marketing comes from the Audi side of the business....."S-Tronic" (DSG) "Quattro" (Haldex 4x4).......Vorsprung Durch Technik indeed.  

"The on-site engine production hall supplies 3-cylinder engines, the 1.2 MPI, as well as the modern, supercharged TSI engines to ŠKODA cars and to other brands of the Volkswagen Group. Another important role of ŠKODA’s main plant in Mladá Boleslav is the production of MQ100 and MQ200 gearboxes, axles and other car components."

So my 1.2htp engine is skoda built then? Along with the pre revision 2005 1.2 triple thats in my mums polo?

Whats a 1.2 mpi in?

Skoda made the tools that make the bodies for Bentleys.  The MK 1 Fabia was the first car of the group to use the PQ24 platform.  Skoda are a great engineering company on which the likes of VW, Seat & Audi depend upon to make their cars.

So my 1.2htp engine is skoda built then? Along with the pre revision 2005 1.2 triple thats in my mums polo?

Whats a 1.2 mpi in?

 

Yes. 1.2MPI is just HTP rebranded. A further revised 75BHP version is in the Rapid.

Funny that people bother who make things. To be honest I'm not fussed if it's under the seat, vw, skoda or Audi umbrella. Who builds a certain part doesn't figure in my car purchase at all

Some it will mind you. We are all different