Don't forget that Skoda has, for years, stood for Some Kind Of Downmarket Audi.

 

 

I always thought it was a down market VW....

well that's news to me.... I didn't know that skoda made the 1.2 and 1.4 tsi engines for all the group...

 

They also made the axle for the London Eye as they were the only company with a foundry big enough to produce it!

 

Sorry, off topic I know

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Thats why the 1.4 tsi twin charger is a lemon. Its a skoda engine

 

Skoda don't make the twincharger version AFAIK. They do make the new 1.4TSIs in the Golf/Octy e.t.c.

I always thought it was a down market VW....

 

I always think a Passat looks a bit low rent parked next to a Superb, inside and out.

 

 

Having just ordered an Audi A3 1.4 TFSI S-tronic, I was shocked and surprised to discover it has a Skoda engine. Should I be concerned?

 

 

So what would your answer be? 

 

 

Mmmmmmm.......My Vrs must have an Audi Engine then, kooks like there putting Skoda ones in Audi's

Normal practise in the automotive industry.

 

Examples of this: -

 

Rover V8 original a Buick design

Lotus Elise used various Rover K-Series and Toyota Engines

Generation 1 BMW MINIS used a Chrysler Engine

Generation 2 BMW MINIS use a joint BMW/Peugeot/ Citroen Engine

 

If your Audi has a Skoda engine I wouldn't be too worried at least its still a VAG product!

 

Incorrect. As a new dad, boot space is crucial. I'll wager any new parent or parents in general quantify boot space before a purchase.

Agreed.

 

I took our nipper's pram along with us to buy both mine and my Mrs's cars.............making sure it would fit into both boots and seeing how much space was left over.

_{each brand has their own use of the group parts, id think its a mighty daft idea to do it any other way cost wise. engines have been shared from some time now. that said some components are still different.}

 

_{each brand has its budget and spends it accordingly. you can tell they are different inside, outside, to drive and to live with. small changes in each brand do add up to noticable changes if you have them side by side.}

 

_{Audi usually have the best of the items and this flows down to segment taget ie seat-sporty hence better engines etc.}

Agreed.

 

I took our nipper's pram along with us to buy both mine and my Mrs's cars.............making sure it would fit into both boots and seeing how much space was left over.

 

important but not the only factor! as i say why is every family not driving an octavia in some form if to everyone the boot size is the only important thing.

This is a clear example of what really makes people buy a car, marketing and perceived brand excellence. 

 

We all know an Audi is a poor mans Rolls Royce or is that Porsche, Oh my god they have VW engines in them.

This is a clear example of what really makes people buy a car, marketing and perceived brand excellence. 

 

We all know an Audi is a poor mans Rolls Royce or is that Porsche, Oh my god they have VW engines in them.

 

or maybe how you buy a car? wouldnt say ive ever bought a car that way lol

Obviously it was a concern to the Audi buyer, but it's easy enough to check the provenance of an engine from the internet.

 

It's worth bearing in mind that several major components are not produced in house but produced by suppliers, for some pretty important parts such as turbochargers, gearboxes, etc. and that a car plant is an assembly shop, not a fabrication shop. For example, I very much doubt that a Bugatti driver will be too concerned that his Haldex all-wheel-drive system is shared with VWs and Volvos, or an Aston Martin driver cares that ZF also supplies gearboxes to JLR and BMW.

 

Anyway, VAG pretty much copied the platform sharing and badge engineering concept from the big three US carmakers, it's not news, it's just differentiated external design, internal design and materials, and distribution. It's up to you to decide what tribe you belong to, the manufacturer just wants to shift metal to customers. And if he can upsell you, then even better.

Obviously it was a concern to the Audi buyer, but it's easy enough to check the provenance of an engine from the internet.

 

It's worth bearing in mind that several major components are not produced in house but produced by suppliers, for some pretty important parts such as turbochargers, gearboxes, etc. and that a car plant is an assembly shop, not a fabrication shop. For example, I very much doubt that a Bugatti driver will be too concerned that his Haldex all-wheel-drive system is shared with VWs and Volvos, or an Aston Martin driver cares that ZF also supplies gearboxes to JLR and BMW.

 

Anyway, VAG pretty much copied the platform sharing and badge engineering concept from the big three US carmakers, it's not news, it's just differentiated external design, internal design and materials, and distribution. It's up to you to decide what tribe you belong to, the manufacturer just wants to shift metal to customers. And if he can upsell you, then even better.

yip very well put, each brand has a target and the main owner VAG wants that to be as much of the market as possible

The truth is these days no marque in the group has its "own" engines, save the units that find their way into halo Audis, Lamborghinis and Bentleys say. The 1.8T was "originally" an Audi design, which was itself based on another Audi design, which was ultimately based on a 1960s Mercedes-Benz design! So everyone who drives anything from a mk1 Golf GTI to a mk1 Octavia vRS can say they're driving something with an "Audi" engine, but these days it really doesn't matter anymore.

 

And as for perceived differences between the brands? Audis have bigger displays and more functions and shinier switches, but in substance when you compare like with like they really are the same thing. When Bernd Pischetsrieder was head of VAG, he got in hot water for making a speech where he said he didn't understand why people spent so much buying Audis - underneath they're really just VWs. And that's from the chair of Volkswagen AG!

Yip very true, but when you introduce other reasons such as certain engines, trim, extras abd features that certain brands have and others dont you get further dispersing of customers.

 

everyone wants different things from cars including size, spec, performance, gadgets etc. Audi has aluminium panels better trim better sound deaden and interior. to some this will matter to some it wont. An A3 feels different than a golf and different from an octavia. you can tell they are related but also can tell they are different.

I'm glad my Audi has Skoda bit's in it,  a few more would make it a better car IMO.

Hope the Rolls Royce owners appreciate their new found friends in Germany, they do make nice engines don't yer know.

They also made the axle for the London Eye as they were the only company with a foundry big enough to produce it!

 

Sorry, off topic I know

..and the stern frames for the magnificent French superliner ss "Normandie" of 1935, rival to the original RMS "Queen Mary". Probably even more off topic :think:

There was an article in a recent edition of CAR about the latest Golf/Octavia/Leon/A3 - if I can dig up the link, I'll post it, but it was interesting reading.

Iv got a 2013 fabia se, and my brothers got a 2005 audi a3 1.6.

Iv got to say, his a3 is much smoother, quieter and more refined.

 

You're comparing Apples and Oranges.

 

The 2013 Fabia is based on the (pretty old) PQ24 platform. The 2005 Audi A3 is based on the PQ35 platform (same as the Mk2 Octavia). 

 

I own a Mk1 Fabia (Still PQ24 platform) and a Mk2 Octavia, and they are miles apart from a refinement point of view......the Octavia being vastly superior as you might expect.  

Fair shout. Is the a1 similar to the fabia then?

Also, i thought the fabia changed to the pq25 platform when it had the facelift in 2010?

Ok the current A3 is ahead of the octavia in a few areas, fit and finish, trim, interior, refinement , options available. Octy is ahead in space, value for money. Each car has it's merits but are markedly different even th other are same platform

For me, its the question 'is it worth all that extra money?'

And for me, no. But then i dont have as much money as some do lol.

Personally I can think of lots of things I'd rather spend a couple of grand on than a piece of sticky-back plastic...

 

Fair shout. Is the a1 similar to the fabia then?

Also, i thought the fabia changed to the pq25 platform when it had the facelift in 2010?

 

Yes you're right, they did go to the PQ25 platform at facelift, but it is basically an updated PQ24 platform...still carries over a lot of features from the PQ24. And the Audi A1 is based on the PQ25 platform too, so you are essentially driving around in an A1 with a Skoda badge on it!  

I thought so. Yeah just minor changes to allow 4wd wasnt it?

Ahh dont tell the audi drivers that haha. They have alot more sound insulation than i do i imagine haha.