Hi all had skoda superb 2lt tdi se + for 2 weeks now its the tdi cr dpf 140ps g6 man , can any one give me what sort of miles per gallon i should be looking for urban etc .

looking at average fuel consumption on read out on dash a roads at about 50-60 miles per hr its says 29.6 per gallon is this far out or not spend a lot of time down the gears as posed to my old octavia 2lt tdi which what gave me about 50 to the gallon.

 ps unable to work it out from manual its in lts per 100kmt.

Thanks

Are you still in second gear?

In reality I have never had less than 40mpg when new ( around town) to now over 60 mpg at 26k miles and nearer to 65 mpg on the motorway.

I had the same engine configuration and am regularly getting 50+ on the Maxidot (trip computer). My actual brim-to-brim results can be found in Fuelly - click the link in my signature below.

I'm averaging 49mpg in exactly the same car (manually calculated).

I've got a 4x4 170 2.0 TDi and do no motorway milage at all, mostly commutes on A and B roads, I get between 40 and 45 mpg a trip depending on how heavy my right foot is, I have seen over 50mpg if I drive like Miss Daisy. I'd just wait till you've used a tank full and work it out as the MFD isn't gospel! I get just over 450 miles when the light comes on, and thats usually about 48 litres used due to the poxy 60 litre tank!

Edited 7 May, 201412 yr by bryanp

On a 140 TDI combi I get 49-51 on an even mix of urban and motorway driving. That's calculated, the maxi dot for the same distance seems to give a figure that's about 10% better.

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Thanks to all, what is in the back of my mind is when town driving etc always seems to strugle canmt get above 4 gear and when on open road have to be doing 50 before it will take 6 gear is this about right.

You only had the car for 2 weeks correct?

 

It will take you +/- 6 months to find the sweet spot for driving economically with any car. You learn what gears you need to be in at what speed, you lose all the habits from the previous car, and you get to know the "roll-off" point of the throttle, where you can lift your foot very slightly while still maintaining the same speed, but with less fuel.

 

I have the exaxt same engine as yours, here are my figures;

 

 

As you can see I'm also still "learning". Do take into account the difference between winter and summer tyres, and also my car has been chipped to 186HP/405Nm. I highly recommend tracking your fuel costs, I use http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/ , you can search their database and compare your results with other Superbs with the same specs. You will see your mileage increase over time, I guarantee it. This engine is VERY powerfull, and VERY economical. For a car as big and heavy as the Superb, it suits it well.

 

EDIT:

 

In town = 50km/u = 30 mi/u = 3rd or if I push it a bit faster 4th.

Anything below 80km/u = 49 mi/u = 5th, 6th just feels wrong

Anything above 80km/u = 6th. And when overtaking I don't drop down to 5th, but that's more related to my chip I think ;-)

 

Don't follow the shift recommendation on the dash though, those are just too early.

 

If you want to know the golden bullet(s) to increasing your mileage, it's anticipate, anticipate, anticipate. Lift off throttle, avoid braking at all costs, it turns fuel into energy (heat). Check your tire pressures every month, push it up to the pressures for full load. Don't let your car idle on the driveway to defrost in the morning, start it, let it run for 10 seconds to give the oil a chance to go around, and drive off gently. Avoid short runs, if you need to make couple of short stops do it at the end of the day, so the engine is already warm.

 

It'll come, don't worry!

Edited 8 May, 201412 yr by Too Tall

Thanks lads will give it a go best forum ever.

If it's any help, I treat the gear change indications as an indication of what the turbo is doing: "^" in the maxi dot tells me the turbo is just spooling up, so I want to keep in current gear for the next 750-1,000rpm before changing gear.

Too Tall, which remap did you go for?

I'm Belgian, so I used VAGTechniek (VAG specialist well known in Holland/Belgium) They remapped my Octavia II BXE (1.9 PD) 105HP/250Nm to 135HP/310Nm. At that point I owned the car for about a year, so I really felt the difference. Very smooth powercurve, gained about 5MPG. Very frugal but quick car afterwards (still regret selling it a bit, but the Superb was too good of a deal to pass up!)

 

The Superb was mapped on their brand new Superflow. Stock 140Hp/320Nm, first run showed 145Hp/325Nm. After some tries we ended up with 198Hp/415Nm, and we eventually settled on 186Hp/405Nm. I only had the car for about 3 weeks at that time, so I didn't have the advantage of noticing the difference as much as when they did the Octavia, but I had noticed a flat spot between 2000 and 2200 rpm, and that's gone now. The car now is a dream to drive, and it can *really* haul ass when I want to. Mileage as you can see in the picture I posted earlier started out at 46-50 MPG, now it's up to about 50-53. When I get to know the car a bit more I'm sure 55MPG will be the average in the long run.

 

I know I'll never get the cost of the chip back in fuel savings (about 300 £) but knowing the car is running at it's smoothest setting, and knowing when it delivers MaxNm, is worth it in my view. I also go there for all the maintenance and work on the car, they're good people.

 

Edited 9 May, 201412 yr by Too Tall

I know this is a bit of a deviation of the OP's topic (sorry logotdi) but it really baffles me how remaps can give you more power and better mpg........ how can you get more for less...?

I know this is a bit of a deviation of the OP's topic (sorry logotdi) but it really baffles me how remaps can give you more power and better mpg........ how can you get more for less...?

Because the remap should optimise the engine for local conditions that the factory cant ie fuel quality. Ive always gained very slightly on the fuel consumption side of things post remap IF its being driven in a sensible manor. Ive seen the biggest benefits with Shark Performance and ven more so with the bigger turbo in cruise conditions - work that out!

I know this is a bit of a deviation of the OP's topic (sorry logotdi) but it really baffles me how remaps can give you more power and better mpg........ how can you get more for less...?

 

This is how I see it (explained to me + own investigation)

 

In sterile conditions (eg. take away drag from wind, road resistance, load, etc) any engine will give it's optimum performance at peak torque (optimum performance in this case = best amount of speed for best amount of consumption). You can see in my graph that peak Nm (400Nm) is right at 2250 rpm. So I know that when I shift late, I will go faster yes, but in comparison it will take more fuel. I can also shift early, but then I will "lose" momentum because I didn't use all of the torque available. If you go from 0 rpm to 2250 rpm, you will use alot more fuel in the beginning then near the end - thus you want to spend as much time as possible when accelerating nearer to the end of the "rise" in the curve, then at the beginning.

 

Ofcourse this is talk that concerns the acceleration and doesn't account for road conditions, weather, etc. It also isn't applicable to cruise (eg. motorway at 60 I will be in 6th and that's nowhere near 2250 rpm)

 

For me the biggest 2 reasons to consider a remap are;

 

1. Knowing when your car is delivering peak performance in the powerband, eg. at which rpm you have max torque

2. Removing horrible dips and flat spots in the powerband. Most tuners have a "wall of shame" where they readouts of cars before remapping. Some of those are just horrible, how they leave factories so badly mapped are beyond me.

 

Having "MOAR HORSES TO GO FASTERRRR" doesn't even register on my scale or reasons...Sure if you do trackdays with a performance car, and you go beyond stage 1 to 2 or even 2+/3, then you will notice a big difference. In a normal car, normal conditions, normal driver, a stage 1 map should be pretty unnoticable...except the absense of the odd dip, you'd be hard pressed to sense the difference.

 Carry on lads this is better by the minute more input.

so similar to @brianp above.

 

170 4x4 manual combi, remapped. 

 

i get high 30's around town, late 40's on motorway driving (46-48) and if I am a mix of motorway and non-motorway on a decent journey, I can just about break 50

 

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Hi all had skoda superb 2lt tdi se + for 2 weeks now its the tdi cr dpf 140ps g6 man , can any one give me what sort of miles per gallon i should be looking for urban etc .

looking at average fuel consumption on read out on dash a roads at about 50-60 miles per hr its says 29.6 per gallon is this far out or not spend a lot of time down the gears as posed to my old octavia 2lt tdi which what gave me about 50 to the gallon.

 ps unable to work it out from manual its in lts per 100kmt.

Thanks

The average fuel consumption measures the average for the journey. If you want to know what it is doing at a given speed look at the instant mpg.