Some good news from yesterday, and I was needing it.

 

Our wee car eventually got taken into the garage for the engine change yesterday (Thursday) afternoon after Skoda Replacement Vehicles were able to get a courtesy car for us to use while our Fabia was away. Chap at dealer suggested it would be available by Tuesday with a bit of luck but I think they may be a wee bit optimistic so won't hold my breath.

 

Here's hoping all goes well with "Angus", as my wife has named the car.

Richard,

Here's hoping for a quality job for you and the missus.

With no more frustrations.

Give the loaner a caneing for the said previous frustration.

Angus the furby? really? no wonder he's misbehaving 

 

seriously though i hope it all goes well, we paid good money for these and deserve a good one

Edited 20 September, 201411 yr by the mad monk

Richard,

Here's hoping for a quality job for you and the missus.

With no more frustrations.

Give the loaner a caneing for the said previous frustration.

 

Things are moving on, got a call from Skoda to advise engine now out of our wee car and new engine hopefully installed by Thursday/ Friday of this week. Also to get written confirmation of additional 2 years warranty and compensation is being sorted as I type. So progressing relatively well.

 

As for caning the loaner, not going to happen I'm afraid. Lovely car, handles very well and very comfortable but not especially quick. We've been given a 14 plate Ford Focus titanium nav automatic, as I say very smooth. But with the heavier body, and 125bhp, it feels a bit underpowered compared to "Angus".

 

Angus the furby? really? no wonder he's misbehaving 

 

seriously though i hope it all goes well, we paid good money for these and deserve a good one

 

Monk, my wife has a habit of naming her cars, and this one got a good manly, highland sounding name as she appears to think it's some kind of warrior. As I said to her though, the warrior is currently in intensive care after having his guts ripped out.

 

Thanks for the best wishes, we only want the wee car to be the way it should be, and the way that the vast majority of the vrs are.

SterlingMG,

What is your current status with your Mum's car

Any positive progress from your dealer or Skoda UK.

Edited 24 September, 201411 yr by vrskeith

Ok, so good news is we have the vrs back from the dealer, with a new engine looking resplendent in the engine bay. I have some photos of the before and after that may be of use for george/ keith in identifying where the new block originates from.

 

And, it would appear, that's all the information I have. No documentation, no entry on service book, no sticker in boot, no information regarding engine number or possible need to inform dvla and no instructions regarding running in. Run for 1000 miles and come back in so we can check all levels are ok, and that everything is as it should be given the size of the job. And that as they say, is that.

 

Except that I believe there is a judder when moving away between 1,2 and 3. Almost as if a clutch were slipping but surely not? Given I've only covered 40 miles since pick up I'm reluctant to go back too quickly if I'm thinking I'm feeling something that doesn't exist, or perhaps its just bedding in? Also sounds a bit different than it did, almost like you can hear something from the cogs/ belts resembling a very quick ticking that wasn't there before. Again, maybe it's just me. I'm not overly mechanically minded but I would imagine one of the hardest tasks with the installation would be the mating together of all the parts.

 

Anyone with experience of this able to give me reassurance, or conversely point me to the root of the possible problems?

 

I'll be out with the prayer mats very shortly, just hoping to have our car the way it should be and no further problems.

 

Thanks.

I think most people who have had engine relacements have been happy its worked, Damo's surely did! I would suggest you "drive it as normal" don't baby it

Some people had two engine replacements and only the third one was normal, but they are in vast minority and as Shark wrote most people are happy with their second engines. Drive it like you normally do, take her for a few hours drive to gt her to good working temps and keep her there and don't redline her before she reaches full working temps. Don't worry about little noises, you are probably overly sensitive now having had all those problems etc. Clutch packs make funny clunking sounds but that's it, they work fine.. Mine was making those sounds at some point quite stubbornly but then they were gone and despite trying to hear them I failed to notice anything As for the judder I think it is bedding in, gearbox is tabula rasa and is in learning mode now. 

As for the documentation from the garage I believe it is a normal practice to have appropriate annotation in your service book otherwise it would be fraud - I'd take it up with SUK. Call them and ask for their advice.

 

Don't forget to enjoy Angus, that is the most important thing of all!!

Richard,

 

My Partners installation was very sweet, engine sounded really sharp and we didn't experience and engine /DSG reconfiguring. It appeared smooth after the first time the key was turned.

 

We both had a lot of faith in the skill of the Master Tech doing the job in our small but experienced dealership, having already done three changes.

 

May be your DSG is computing the driving style and engine setup.

 

Leave it a few day and see how things bed in would be my approach.

 

Thanks for the photos, will compare with others and get my son to translate the detail. 

 

Enjoy the CTHE spec drive - lets just hope your suspicions do not have a foundation.

Oil usage on VAG petrol engines is pretty common, I believe they are designed to burn a little for some reason or another.

My vRS was flogged from the day it arrived with us though my wife was more gentle with it. Mechanically was fine for the 18 months we had it and on average was doing a litre or so every 4.5k miles.

Something I noticed very quickly were the exhaust tips turning black almost immediately after being cleaned, also the tailgate used to get splattered with oily dots so was definitely burning a reasonable amount but little compared to some.

My Dad had a 1.4 TFSi 125 A3 and A5 2.0 TFSi 180 fairly recently and both used a lot of oil....The A5 was sold when it was using a litre every 300 miles at just short of 30k miles though I do think my Dad's oil usage issues stemmed from lots of short runs and overly gentle treatment.

The Fabia definitely used more oil in my wife's hands than mine.

...oh and there are those on here that will be quite insistent of the fact you should run one of these on super and nought else.....absolutely not wrong to do so but I'd disagree with those who state its absolutely necessary to prevent mechanical damage etc. Just from experience running mine on branded 95 for a long while certainly did mine no harm at all.

Edited 28 September, 201411 yr by pipsyp

They are certainly not Designed to use oil to any great extent.

They do run rich until up to Normal Operating Temperature.

This has been changed over the past 4 years, first with ECU updates on the CAVE, 

then new Engine Management on the CTHE.

98 Ron in the Prescribed Fuel, but obviously as all EU Euro 5 Type Approved Petrol Engines can run on 95 Ron.

 

The Early 1.4 TSI CAVE 132 Kw / 180ps Minimum Engines from 2009 in the Seat Ibiza had some Quality Control Issues.

Engine Components, and Plugs, Coils  & MAP issues.

1.4 TFSI 136 Kw / 185ps Audi A1 from 2011

 

As it is in the UK, of the 1,800 vRS Twincharger sold, 2010 - 2012, there has been a Greater than 20% failure Rate,

Requiring Warranty work.

So that means near enough 8 in every 10 have had no Warranty work required on the Engine.

But that number is difficult to get acknowledged by Skoda / VW,  because they are not giving information

or any information on their Design, Manufacturing or Material Failures.

 

Because of this the Engine was Revised in 2012, 

New Components, & Engine Management.

These are much more Reliable, and have better Quality Control, except maybe some of the First Built ones in the Skoda late 2012,  (A few Members here bought the First CTHE Cars sold and then required replacement Engines.)

 

Then the CTHE  went in the Seat Cupra Ibiza Face Lift 2013 but so few have been sold, and these were 3-4 months after the first vRS CTHE sold from 2012 were showing issues, so the Engine Management in the Ibiza FL 2013 was sorted,

and the CTHE Engines since.

 

The issues are not Some Internet Myth, they are real in the Engines in the Seat, VW, Skoda, Audi and around the World.

http://revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

Edited 28 September, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

No place with the engines from 2008, do VW say, they will produce power & fuel Economy,

but between 10,000 miles services where you start with 3.6 litres of oil from the factory, and then buy 3.6 litres of new oil,

you might need to buy 1 litre every 3 tank fill ups of petrol.

 

**"Fewer Hydrocarbon Emissions",

but keep pouring in 1 Litre of Fully Synthetic oil every 1,200 miles in some of the Engines 

that we build without good Quality Control. That might be as many as 20% of those we produce. **

 

So that once they increased the power output from 125 Kw to 132-136 Kw if you are a 12,000 miles a year driver, expect 35 - 45 MPG, and 1 litre of oil every 1,200 miles.

We are a very Green Company..

Vorsprung Durch Technik.

Edited 28 September, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

One litre in 5,000 miles.

More than any car I have ever owned but so it goes.

A Land Rover I once owned used far more.

Edited 28 September, 201411 yr by SeaGoat

Our new engine seems to be settling in, have to take it back into the retailer at 1000 miles to have checked over, so will wait patiently and hope for the best that all will be ok now. DSG lumpiness that I thought was evident in first couple of days seems to have gone so that's good news.

 

What about SterlingMG? Any further news?

StirlingMG,

 

We haven't heard from you for sometime. It would be good to have an update , as this thread kicked-off some useful comments

 

Have you and your Mum had any success in getting a replacement engine yet??

Edited 3 November, 201411 yr by vrskeith

StirlingMG,

 

We haven't heard from you for sometime. It would be good to have an update , as this thread kicked-off some useful comments

 

Have you and your Mum had any success in getting a replacement engine yet??

Sorry for my absence...................just been sooooo busy & had nowt to tell but & it's a big but, the Fabia went back in last week & it just so happened the aftermarket warranty engineer was on site & they gave the car a thorough check & came back with "Well there's not the slightest sign of a leak so it must be burning it" which is a promising response, they couldn't guarantee the outcome but they all seemed pretty sure the go ahead would be given for a new engine, she was told it may take a couple of weeks for a decision but it certainly looks good

Sorry for my absence...................just been sooooo busy & had nowt to tell but & it's a big but, the Fabia went back in last week & it just so happened the aftermarket warranty engineer was on site & they gave the car a thorough check & came back with "Well there's not the slightest sign of a leak so it must be burning it" which is a promising response, they couldn't guarantee the outcome but they all seemed pretty sure the go ahead would be given for a new engine, she was told it may take a couple of weeks for a decision but it certainly looks good

Good to hear your seemly better news.

 

Just hope they do the right thing for your Mum and you.

Edited 3 November, 201411 yr by vrskeith

Good to hear your seemly better news.

 

Just hope they do the right thing for your Mum and you.

This is really strange, for  in the majority of cases the Master Tech, after following the VAG/Skoda Process - test 1,fit breather ,test 2 if all these fail then he/she is able to request a replacement engine direct on Skoda UK. So why was a Warranty Engineer( Skoda Employee?) involved in your case?

 

We are still seeing INCONSISTANCY in the PROCESS. Indeed in Customer Service /Care.

Edited 4 November, 201411 yr by vrskeith

'Carlsberg' do not do the 'Skoda' Warranty Examinations, 

but 'If Carlsberg did'.

or even Skoda UK Milton Keynes employee Derren Brown.

 

They.

Open the Bonnet,

look and see there is no oil leaking or showing outside of the engine.

& decide then and there it is the issue that Volkswagen, Skoda, Seat and Audi have known of since 2009 and 

order up the new engine.

 

*Get everything in writing and agreed with Skoda UK, and take the word and actions of Dealerships and employees with a pinch of salt.*

 

george

Edited 4 November, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

Unfortunately within the Skoda process, the man above drops the ball regularly!

 

Is he a Master Tech, Customer Service Agent or a Warranty Engineer?

Edited 4 November, 201411 yr by vrskeith

This is really strange, for in the majority of cases the Master Tech, after following the VAG/Skoda Process - test 1,fit breather ,test 2 if all these fail then he/she is able to request a replacement engine direct on Skoda UK. So why was a Warranty Engineer( Skoda Employee?) involved in your case?

We are still seeing INCONSISTANCY in the PROCESS. Indeed in Customer Service /Care.

This happened with mine. The warranty engineer said it wasn't catastrophic failure, so Skoda paid for the new engine. Mine was an approved car, out of the original warranty but on a Skoda warranty. I'm not complaining about the outcome though.

If it helps SterlingMG any, our car did one consumption test which it spectacularly failed, and the dealer went straight ahead and ordered the new engine. When I went to pick up the car on the day it failed the consumption test I was told there and then that the new engine had been ordered, and that the next I would hear would be to bring the car in for the change to take place.

 

Certainly didn't have to wait for someone else to get involved in the authorisation, and didn't need a Warranty technician involved, it was all done by the dealer.

 

I hope they aren't going to start trying to mess you about.

Well up to this point I've no reason to doubt what's been said. The guy from Skoda had something to do with handling used car warranty claims & he actually looked at the car as well as the dealer & had apparently recommended a replacement engine but he had to submit some paperwork or something & that would take up to 2 weeks, it's been just over a week so not worried yet.

Well up to this point I've no reason to doubt what's been said. The guy from Skoda had something to do with handling used car warranty claims & he actually looked at the car as well as the dealer & had apparently recommended a replacement engine but he had to submit some paperwork or something & that would take up to 2 weeks, it's been just over a week so not worried yet.

Look forward to some very positive news for you and Mum soon!