Hi, hopefully the first of many posts here.

 

 Hoping to buy a used Yeti but have a quick question.

 

 I test drove a used 2011 140 4x4 28k. It drives fine though I have noticed a fair amount of engine vibration (not judder) in the clutch pedal. I can't another similar example for sale nearby to compare.

 

 Is this normal for these?

 

 Also any other things to look out for?

 

 The car has the "off road button" though I am not sure if it has tow bar prep.

I have a new 140bhp TDI 4x4 with 2K miles on the clock and no judder or vibration on the clutch pedal. Doesn't sound right to me.

 

Dave

I've never noticed any vibration through the clutch pedal in my 140 4x4. I wouldn't regard it as "normal". My inclination would be to walk away.

I drove a brand new 140 manual at the skoda dealer in Winchester and noticed exactly the same.

Diesel owners may not notice it as it's quite usual for a manual diesel (I've noticed it on other diesel cars I have driven though in most cases the owners have been oblivious to it) but having only owned petrol cars before this was an instant deal breaker.

One of the reasons why I chose the DSG version.

Hi VGA

 

 I test drove a used 2011 140 4x4 28k. It drives fine though I have noticed a fair amount of engine vibration (not judder) in the clutch pedal. I can't another similar example for sale nearby to compare.

Ive driven Diesels 35 years and  there are a number of reasons.

 

1. Clutch is Faulty and on its way out (but at 28K I doubt it).

 

2. Mates & there wifes (especially the Wives) have ask me this question, My answer was that Diesel's need to be Driven,

    with my auto "snowman" anything below or near 1500Revs is unacceptable , I try to keep my Rev range 1800/2000, I use manual option to change my  DSG box down a gear. I only use full Auto when speed limits are  80KM/hr or above(50 mph).

 

Hope this Helps Geoff

Edited 25 May, 201412 yr by Gobmax

While not Skoda, we have owned 2 Suzuki GV diesels (2L) both manual gearboxes and did not experience this 'feature'. Both vehicles had (have) totally different engine and gearbox specifications (Peugeot/Renault). PS The Peugeot was a lovely engine.

I've driven and owned many diesels over the years and they do have more vibration through the pedals than petrol's. All my Fabia's (2 x 105hp and 2x VRS) had a fair bit of vibration and they were low mileage examples. Even my Honda CRV had some vibration compared with petrol cars. That's why I like the 1.2 engine in my Yeti, it's so smooth and quiet.

That's why I like the 1.2 engine in my Yeti, it's so smooth and quiet.

I was going to add a ref to 1.2 petrol to my post but did not want to upset the dieselers.

My old Yeti covered 120K miles whilst I had it and I never experienced clutch pedal vibration. the guy who has it now doesn't either. I know this because he is my mate  

 

 The problem you describe suggests the car has been poorly driven.

There should be NO vibration on the clutch pedal on any vehicle, petrol or diesel. If there is, then something is not right.

 

Could you be a bit more specific as to when you noticed it, ie depressing the clutch or releasing, or do you drive with your foot resting on the clutch pedal?

My Yeti replaced an Implied with a very smooth petrol engine, and there is no more vibration through the clutch pedal in the Yeti than there was in the Subaru - which was none.

In the Yeti, 1,500rpm or thereabouts is my change-up point for normal ie not "spirited" driving. Driving like that yesterday returned over 50mpg on a 300 mile run.

As Anzio implies, you shouldn't be resting your foot on the pedal during normal driving. There's a reason they put that bloody great great foot rest next to it.

There is no vibration when the clutch is engaged fully. I do find a lot of vibration though through the pedal when having to slip the clutch slightly in heavy traffic where it is not moving fast enough to fully engage even first gear.

 

This is not the result of driving style or misuse. In any event the clutch & flywheel was changed recently to try and resolve another issue the car has had from new, without success, and it does exactly the same with the new one.

 Hi, hopefully the first of many posts here.

 

 Hoping to buy a used Yeti but have a quick question.

 

 I test drove a used 2011 140 4x4 28k. It drives fine though I have noticed a fair amount of engine vibration (not judder) in the clutch pedal. I can't another similar example for sale nearby to compare.

 

 Is this normal for these?

 

 Also any other things to look out for?

 

 The car has the "off road button" though I am not sure if it has tow bar prep.

There is a list of the "build codes" on a sticker in the front of the service schedule and also under the boot carpet.

If you put the codes into here,http://igorweb.org/equidec/Default.aspx it will tell you what each one means. You should be able to find out if it has towbar prep from there.

 

Fred

I get judder from the engine / clutch on occaision at 14 - 1500rpm in top , which goes away depressing clutch and releasing, had similar on 2 x diesel Berlingo's, one a 2ltr and the other a 1.6ltr, both had siemens electronics which were apparently prone to this, however, yeti doesn't have said system, must be my driving style!!

What were you driving before, petrol or diesel? I have a 140HP 4x4 Yeti and yes, the engine feels lumpy through the clutch because it it's diesel. But there is no vibration transmitted back via the brake pedal.

Sorry, I meant clutch pedal!

 Thanks everyone for the responses and info. Very helpful

 

 Explaining this issue further.

 

 There is engine vibration felt when pushing in the clutch and releasing the clutch. Really annoying to be honest. There is no judder when clutch takes up drive.

 

 I have a van with 170k on it and it's vibration free in any of the pedals. I owned a BMW with DMF problems so I know what clutch judder is.

 

 This is just lots of vibration when pushing in the clutch. Even when stationary and you can feel it when you rev the engine.

 

 I've the feeling I'm going to walk away from this one. Pity as it's actually a really clean example.

I think you are wise to walk away this time. I definately don't have any vibration on my clutch pedal under any circumstances at all. If others on here do, then I suggest something must be faulty.

 

Dave

 Thanks everyone for the responses and info. Very helpful

 

 Explaining this issue further.

 

 There is engine vibration felt when pushing in the clutch and releasing the clutch. Really annoying to be honest. There is no judder when clutch takes up drive.

 

 I have a van with 170k on it and it's vibration free in any of the pedals. I owned a BMW with DMF problems so I know what clutch judder is.

 

 This is just lots of vibration when pushing in the clutch. Even when stationary and you can feel it when you rev the engine.

 

 I've the feeling I'm going to walk away from this one. Pity as it's actually a really clean example.

 

Fairly recently I had a 2nd dual mass flywheel failure on a 2004 VW 1.9tdi. Both cases felt different prior to failure. The flywheel I now have fitted is not a dual mass. It was cheaper and hopefully more reliable. Two differences I have noticed are it is noisier and not as smooth. Any chance the car in question has had a replacement flywheel?

 

Colin

V8A - I was going to suggest a DMF issue - these 2.0 TDI VWs are a touch prone to this, like Colin says - until I read your 2nd post.

After that - I'm in agreement with Colin. Has it had a regular flywheel replacement?  VW presumably fit a DMF to these engines for a reason? Colin is probably right, in that with a regular flywheel they will feel lumpier, especially during take up and release of drive, while the release bearing is in contact with the clutch.  Hang on?  Could it just be a knackered release bearing?

 

Next thought if you are feeling the engine vibration through the pedal during operation - is something misaligned?  Making contact somewhere when not supposed to?  Either way, if not purchased yet, then agree "walk away". There'll be another one along in due course...

 

(Saying the same to myself about replacing my BMW with a less miley version at this very moment.  Do I walk away from a very nice E46 330d Sport with only 81k - because its an Auto/Tiptronic - and wait for a manual to come along?  80% are autos, might have a long wait? On other hand there's not a lot wrong with my existing 155,000 mile car. Just that its a 5-speed, not a 6.  Decisions, decisions......) 

Edited 26 May, 201412 yr by FlintstoneR1

V8A - I was going to suggest a DMF issue - these 2.0 TDI VWs are a touch prone to this, like Colin says - until I read your 2nd post.

After that - I'm in agreement with Colin. Has it had a regular flywheel replacement?  VW presumably fit a DMF to these engines for a reason? Colin is probably right, in that with a regular flywheel they will feel lumpier, especially during take up and release of drive, while the release bearing is in contact with the clutch.  Hang on?  Could it just be a knackered release bearing?

 

Next thought if you are feeling the engine vibration through the pedal during operation - is something misaligned?  Making contact somewhere when not supposed to?  Either way, if not purchased yet, then agree "walk away". There'll be another one along in due course...

 

(Saying the same to myself about replacing my BMW with a less miley version at this very moment.  Do I walk away from a very nice E46 330d Sport with only 81k - because its an Auto/Tiptronic - and wait for a manual to come along?  80% are autos, might have a long wait? On other hand there's not a lot wrong with my existing 155,000 mile car. Just that its a 5-speed, not a 6.  Decisions, decisions......) 

 

 The Yeti in question has just turned 3 years old at the start of May and is currently for sale at the supplying dealer as an "approved" vehicle. Doubtful it has had a regular flywheel installed if there was warranty work.

 

 So the misalignment of something seems plausible.

 

 I suppose I could always ask for a print out of all warranty work carried out. There is also a FSH with the Skoda dealer.

 

 I briefly mentioned the vibration but I have not pushed the issue yet as I have not entered a full blown negotiation on the car as it's about £1000-£1500 overpriced even after a £500 drop when I first enquired.

 

 The rest of the car is pretty much as new and the wife has suggested an RAC inspection which seems like a good idea.

 

 I'm not done yet. Wish me luck.

I'll say it again.

 

The brand new one I tested had vibration on the clutch pedal - exactly as you describe. It too was a CR 140.

 

I'd say is a characteristic of the car and one which many owners have not noticed or are immune to.

I'll say it again.

 

The brand new one I tested had vibration on the clutch pedal - exactly as you describe. It too was a CR 140.

 

I'd say is a characteristic of the car and one which many owners have not noticed or are immune to.

 

Then I suggest this car had a fault as well even though it was new! Maybe there are some manufacturing tolerances which make some cars more susceptible to clutch pedal judder, but I can assure you that my car does NOT have this problem.

 

I have driven dozens of cars over the last 40+ years and if there was some problem with the clutch pedal on the Yeti, I would have noticed it immediately and it would have been a deal breaker. The pre FL Yeti Adventure 140TDI manual I test drove for several miles was also OK.

 

V8A - I would definately leave this car alone and look for another, or get the dealer to fix the problem to your satisfaction first.

 

Dave

with my auto "snowman" anything below or near 1500Revs is unacceptable , I try to keep my Rev range 1800/2000, I use manual option to change my DSG box down a gear. I only use full Auto when speed limits are 80KM/hr or above(50 mph).

Hope this Helps Geoff

Interesting.

I used D all the time apart from when on the open road. Then I used the flappy paddles.

Mine would pull from about 1000rpm with no unusual vibration. 5th gear around town was no problem (30mph).

@smokeyjoe - it wasn't judder - and I think the OP is at pains to point out he is not talking about judder either. It was vibration. Engine vibration. And something I have witnessed in nearly every manual diesel I have ever driven.

But none of the owners of those cars could ever actually detect it - but it's always very obvious to me. And was exactly the reason why I went DSG.