This is a proper "Sports" model - 

http://www.koenigsegg.com/models/one1/

Doesn't say 'Sport' on it.

Does it need to?

It's a reasonable attempt, but misses the mark.  Have a read up on them and get back to me.

Seems I was not up to speed as I had imagined, so apologies if my comment was perceived as ill judged.

 

I am a Suzuki lover, having owned 10 over the years, including a couple of Ignis's. Did not realise that the Ignis Sport had a 1.5 (107hp) engine, as I thought it was just a Ignis with a body-kit. Now I like quirky cars, so now I am better informed, maybe I might look out for one to buy. 

 

BTW, in my younger days, had great fun installing a Turbo on a SJ413, a Supercharger on a SJ (Samurai) van, and a Swift GTi lump in another SJ413.

 

Back then (1988/89), I would have been well up to on all things Suzuki, and would not so easily been fooled.

 

Respect!

Was it BMW who coined the phrase though?  If so, I guess then can do what they want with the name as it isn't pretending to be anything else other than a Gran Coupe.  Mind you, it initially conjures up images of elderly ladies with blue rinses in coupe cars, not vehicles that are able to whisk you to the south of France in Germanic luxury.  Maybe not what BMW had in mind?

 

In the words of Borat..... Very nice, how much

Seems I was not up to speed as I had imagined, so apologies if my comment was perceived as ill judged.

 

No worries.  Maybe I was a bit touchy about it anyway. 

 

As for the whole badge thing it reminds me of the Zetec era.  For a while it referred to the engines which were pretty good at the time.  Then Ford turned it into a trim rather than a reference to the power unit under the bonnet.  Perhaps us car folks take things too seriously at times and need to let it all out in one deep breath. 

 

I've got a mate who's into home brew and he gets really uppity if people say they brew their own beer if it's from a kit.  To him it's an inferior product.  He's into it in a serious way and scours the forums for like minded people - they even swap beers & discuss the intricacies of the whole process.  If someone comes onto the forum and inadvertently commits what they perceive to be a brewing sin they get flamed in a big way.  I reckon he should chill out and just enjoy drinking the beer, but to him I'm a philistine who doesn't appreciate the difference between flocculation and filtration.

 

If the general public likes to drive 'Sport' models then let them.  They're a bit like John Smiths beer of the car world.  They look similar and to the untrained pallet do the same job but to the connoisseur it's mass produced bilge water that is a disgrace to the word beer.

To be fair, the Sport moniker isn't created to challenge a GTI. Let's forget the mk4 golf for a moment, that was an awful "gti" and should have been dubbed "SE". But Sport I suppose is softer than Gti, XR was chavvey, ST is chavvey, RS is .... Super chavvey.

To be honest, the word Sport is absolutely meaningless on any car. It must mean that you like Sport, if you drive one. Watersport anyone?

Skoda Rapid Sport

Another fail - it's not sporty, same bumpers as all the other models, only difference is the Rays alloys and ooh a black spoiler that looks a bit last minute.

They'd have done better offering it with lowering springs, body coloured spoiler and black mirrors, and better wheels.

To be fair, the Sport moniker isn't created to challenge a GTI. Let's forget the mk4 golf for a moment, that was an awful "gti" and should have been dubbed "SE". But Sport I suppose is softer than Gti, XR was chavvey, ST is chavvey, RS is .... Super chavvey.

To be honest, the word Sport is absolutely meaningless on any car. It must mean that you like Sport, if you drive one. Watersport anyone?

 

 

Which? The 150/180 bhp motor that formed the basis of the Mk1 Octavia vRS or the 237 bhp R32?  I know neither of them were worthy of the moniker.

 

Skoda Rapid Sport

Another fail - it's not sporty, same bumpers as all the other models, only difference is the Rays alloys and ooh a black spoiler that looks a bit last minute.

They'd have done better offering it with lowering springs, body coloured spoiler and black mirrors, and better wheels.

 

Or even better offering it with something more pokey than a 122 tsi. Oh and at a price that isn't a shade under a 12 month old Focus ST.

122 ps must be a wish and dream when driving the 105 ps Skoda Rapid Sport

http://autocar.co.uk/car-review/skoda/rapid/first-drives/skoda-rapid-sport-12-tsi-105-first-drive-review

 

Looking forward to seeing the comments below from the Autocar Review in Skoda Adverts and the Brochures that sit in dealerships with Glossy Reprints of car reviews.

***** "ENTIRELY ADEQUATE TO DRIVE".  ******  

  "NOT GREAT, BUT A LONG WAY FROM BAD"

 

The VWG owners of SKODA  must be so proud!

VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIK.

 

They will probably be a very happy parent company if the Skoda Fabia MK2 Replacement 

due to be revealed in October attains review comments like "Very Average",

"Mediocre but Value for Money."

 "Uninspiring but a good means of transport for those on a Budget,

look for the 'Sport' model being released as sales flag."

Skoda Rapid Sport

Another fail - it's not sporty, same bumpers as all the other models, only difference is the Rays alloys and ooh a black spoiler that looks a bit last minute.

They'd have done better offering it with lowering springs, body coloured spoiler and black mirrors, and better wheels.

"better than Rays"! Do you have BBS forged wheels in mind? Or maybe carbon fibre ones that actually are lighter and stronger than same size steels?

Better as in looks - not a great looking wheel IMO. Camelots look better suited. Don't get me wrong, I loved my Rapid just wish they offered some different engines.

It's a trim level isn't it?

All show, no go.

I physically couldn't drive a car which would struggle to shrug off a poverty spec fiesta. Read Monte Carlo.

I think vauxhall did a great job with the corsa. They added the Vxr kit and called them all sorts of names. So fair play to Skoda! If they can make a cheap car with a small engine and stick some extra trim and bumpers on it, all whilst bumping the price up by a marginal amount. Then go for it! If it sells, it sells.

I think vauxhall did a great job with the corsa. They added the Vxr kit and called them all sorts of names.

 

They did and I had the unfortunate experience of driving one once as a courtesy car.  It was only a couple of months ago - before I bought the Vectra - but I can confidently say it was the second worst car I've ever driven.  The 1.2 engine was a poor excuse for a power unit. Everything I touched inside felt cheap, scratchy and it seemed to wander from left to right when going in a straight line.  It looked the part, if you're into that kind of thing, but was very, very poor.  The thing that amazed me was it cost something like £10k!  The one good thing was the brakes, they worked quite well.  Everything else was just plain horrible.

 

p.s. The worst car I ever drove, again a courtesy car was a Suzuki Wagon R.  Don't even get me started on that one.....

Someone I know bought one of those 1.2 corsa then stuck a vxr badge/alloys on it. Oh how we laughed at the drum brakes on the back.

As for the worse "sport" badged car I've driven for a while was an enterprise 1.4 Astra Sri. Much worse, if possible, than the base Astra as it had horrible hard uncomfortable sports seats. I now refuse to hire anything less than an insignia size as the corsa and Astra aren't nice - especially in low engine sizes.

The corsa vxr is actually nice as long as you don't touch any of the non-vxr trim bits.

The one thing about the sport trims that is good is if they get uprated suspension / brakes without the insurance and purchase cost of the extra power. After driving the vRS I'm constantly surprised at how poor some modern cars brakes are.

Skoda Rapid Sport

Another fail - it's not sporty, same bumpers as all the other models, only difference is the Rays alloys and ooh a black spoiler that looks a bit last minute.

They'd have done better offering it with lowering springs, body coloured spoiler and black mirrors, and better wheels.

 

Or, by any means, at all, anything that could meet the definition of the word Rapid.

I don't have any issue with the name "Rapid" - after all, when Nissan trot out names like "Juke" and "Note" and Renault "Captur" and "Modus" et al, at least "Rapid" sounds normal!

Nomenclature such as "Sport" and "Monte Carlo" however give the insurance industry false illusions and I would estimate the cars are pitched at least three insurance groups higher than their performance statistics should place them with most UK insurance underwriters. 

 

Maybe Skoda should look at just badging the special editions with names like "Rapid St Tropez" or "Fabia Frejus" so that insurers can tell at a glance which model the car was based on?   After all, SEAT have done it with the "TOCA" editions of the Mii and Ibiza! 

Nomenclature such as "Sport" and "Monte Carlo" however give the insurance industry false illusions and I would estimate the cars are pitched at least three insurance groups higher than their performance statistics should place them with most UK insurance underwriters. 

 

 

 

Let's test that theory.

Fabia 1.2 TSI SE - Group 13E

Fabia 1.2 TSI Monte Carlo - Group 13E

Let's test that theory.

Fabia 1.2 TSI SE - Group 13E

Fabia 1.2 TSI Monte Carlo - Group 13E

Sorry, those groups that Skoda refer to are not necessarily how individual insurers view them.

Allianz view the Fabia 1.2S (105bhp) and the Fabia 1.2SE (105bhp) as Group 11, whilst the Fabia Monte Carlo 1.2 TSI (105bhp) as Group 13

)

1.2 S 8v, 60 ps

1.2 S , SE, Monte Carlo,  1.2 , 12 v come in 69 ps, 

1.2 SE, SE Plus, Elegance, Scout, Monte Carlo 1.2 TSI 86 ps

1.2 SE, SE Plus, Elegance, Monte Carlo 1.2 TSI 105 ps 

Then there are the Diesels.

 

(But no '1.2 S' 3 cylinder or 4 cylinder with 105 ps)

EDIT, DOH, my mistake,

there is a 1.2 TSI 'S' 105 ps DSG

 

Different values,  different wheels etc,  just differences.

Some get cheaper insurance on a 1.4 TSI 180 ps,.  than on a 105 ps.

 

It is just the way of UK Insurance Underwriters.

What about the new to the UK market Ford Eco Sport. Two words which definetly do not work together or suit this hideous monstrosity at all.

Ford 'Sport Ka'

 

Ahh, & The Volkswagen Golf Sportsvan