when i started driving the fuel cost was 59.9/L for unleaded, my wages havent incresed that much over the last few years to compensate for

Didnt support it last time, wont support it this time.

The last protest saw me trying the pass a queue fomred by artics on the way home from London, blocking 2 lanes of the A2 and also trying to block the outside 3rd lane because they wanted everyone to drive at 20mph on a 3 lane carriageway. I thanked the lorry drivers a lot, especially the one who tried pushing me into the central reservation.

Yes our fule is taxed greater than others, but that will soon change when everyone has to price fuel at a realistic level....much more than even we pay.

Anyway, you join the protests and drive at 20 mph on a motorway, but dont expect me to stop for you even if you have a Brisky sticker in your window.

indeed

i pass my test wanting to drive, and with fuel this expencive i cant go anywhere far, it really does suck just about being able to afford the petrol to college from now on i put

Buy an electric car then.

I agree in theory but (doing 1,000 miles a week) I lost SO much business last time, (approx

i pass my test wanting to drive, and with fuel this expencive i cant go anywhere far, it really does suck just about being able to afford the petrol to college from now on i put

You knew how much it was before you started surely! Come on it's only up 5 or 6p here since about a month ago.... Even thats only an extra

What makes me laugh about all this is the "Fuel lobby" is made up of farmers, now red diesel has little or no tax on it so if they are successful in getting the tax reduced, it will make very little or no difference to the price they pay......hauliers pass on the vat to their customers so very little would be gained there and the normal public (us) might get a penny off a litre.....in the meantime there will be no fuel, people will panic buy at the shops and those who cant get to work or cant travel at work because there is no fuel for vans etc. wont get paid.........I am really looking forward to this again

Hi mate, not arguing with your point about farmers. As an ex truck driver (12 years international) I have to correct you on your comment about hauliers.

Firstly, Vat is not a cost you pass on to customers as it were. There is 17.5% vat on fuel, and 17.5% vat on haulage. That 17.5% of everything goes to......the vat man. The haulier will have the vat content he has paid on his fuel taken off his vat bill. That aside, the vat has no relevance whatsoever in the increase in fuel prices.

Rant mode - My truck held 550 litres of fuel, thats 550 quid to fill today. I filled up three, sometimes four times A WEEK!!! You dont get far at 7mg.

That would be

Diesel is another matter' date=' I understand that and I do believe hauliers need protection from foriegn companies. However what devine right do they have to block the general public from getting around to achieve their means? There are better and legal means to get that through legislation. After all if they cut fuel tax, all they will do is take back off something else and we'd all be worse off.... You can't just magically cut tax and therefore revenue and expect the books to balance

Surely protests though are bad for truckers. I know during the last fuel protest a couple of companies that got foriegn companies to do the work, and never went back to U.K companies!

Oh and truckers have short memories too, they weren't complaining when BR was prevented competing with them and railway men where loosing their jobs over a government issue....

I hope that the instant a protest is started they are arrested and slung in jail.[/quote']

I agree. THIS time the hauliers should park thier trucks up, lock the gates, and leave them for a week. Same effect, no disruption to our fabulous road network.

I'm not trying to get at anybody either but if the farmers who are organising the blockade get a tax reduction they pay so little in tax anyway it will be of no benifit to them and if they get 5p off a litre the government will only put it on something else....like road fund tax ( and yes I do know that trucks pay enough now)...the price is going up at the moment because the people who buy the oil are putting it up because they can (shortage due to the New Orleans disaster) or last time it was the gulf war....the VAT has only increased because the price of oil has gone up....i dont like it any more than anyone else, but no one will win against the government and taxation, they will always get their tax one way or another.

Anyway when does the Skoda fuel cell car come out

Hi mate, not arguing with your point about farmers. As an ex truck driver (12 years international) I have to correct you on your comment about hauliers.

Firstly, Vat is not a cost you pass on to customers as it were. There is 17.5% vat on fuel, and 17.5% vat on haulage. That 17.5% of everything goes to......the vat man. The haulier will have the vat content he has paid on his fuel taken off his vat bill. That aside, the vat has no relevance whatsoever in the increase in fuel prices.

Rant mode - My truck held 550 litres of fuel, thats 550 quid to fill today. I filled up three, sometimes four times A WEEK!!! You dont get far at 7mg.

That would be

Hi mate, not arguing with your point about farmers. As an ex truck driver (12 years international) I have to correct you on your comment about hauliers.

Firstly, Vat is not a cost you pass on to customers as it were. There is 17.5% vat on fuel, and 17.5% vat on haulage. That 17.5% of everything goes to......the vat man. The haulier will have the vat content he has paid on his fuel taken off his vat bill. That aside, the vat has no relevance whatsoever in the increase in fuel prices.

Rant mode - My truck held 550 litres of fuel, thats 550 quid to fill today. I filled up three, sometimes four times A WEEK!!! You dont get far at 7mg.

That would be

Am I correct that the railways get discounted fuel still. Is this perhaps an backward motive to get freight on the rails? ASDA and Morrisions did this to the highlands' date=' IKEA do it too to Glasgow And Edinburgh....

Actually Salty you point is good, but even if duty was cut it's not going to be a lasting measure. For example Buses pay no duty on fuel, yet the Bus companies here have put fares up twice this year due to oil price hikes. I understand why they have done it and I accept it. Whats to say if a similar thing happened to haulage companies they'd be just as likely to suffer these price increases, when the base cost rises anyway? Lets face it the price of oil is unlikely to drop massivily to say pre-Katrina levels in the near future, and this base rise is what we're suffering now, not any duty rises. Therefore once the honeymoon period of any tax-cut is off, the pain resumes as you've only attacked the minor problem. The major problem in the rise in oil prices caused by general global instability.

The only thing that galls me is that it the purchase price is cheaper in the EU and I would like that modified but I disagree with this method of approaching it. I feel the real motive is not the cost of fuel, it is a concern but as I said these are global increases, but the fact that haulage companies can be undercut by EU competition.[/quote']

Dont get me going on foriegn trucks in this country. All I will say is that they should be charged to come here, even if its just

yeah, im guessing well as far as i know its 30 a month, but takeing friends aswell i get funding or something like that, just annoying even if it was 6p cheaper it still adds up my driveing lessons have drained my money right out! , but im sure il be fine in a few weeks, im just tight lol! i wont spend my money but ill spend everyone else's

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No 'eing' No 'eing' No 'eing'

Please don't take this the wrong way but if your at college, surely they pick up on this and correct you? Or do you type into 'Word' and rely on spell checker?

Takeing - Taking

Driveing - Driving

Sorry, it was beginning to annoy me, and you

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No 'eing' No 'eing' No 'eing'

Please don't take this the wrong way but if your at college, surely they pick up on this and correct you? Or do you type into 'Word' and rely on spell checker?

Takeing - Taking

Driveing - Driving

Sorry, it was beginning to annoy me, and you

I've been to fill up just in case... the local Shell is doing Diesel at 94.9 which is no different to a few weeks ago. Morrisons was 97.9 however :ne_nau:

I think the press reports tonight have a few people scared as I had to Q for 10 minutes to get to a pump which isn't usual.

I'll go now and fill up and then on my way to work.

i pass my test wanting to drive, and with fuel this expencive i cant go anywhere far, it really does suck just about being able to afford the petrol to college from now on i put

I think the press reports tonight have a few people scared as I had to Q for 10 minutes to get to a pump which isn't usual.

Was the same at my local Tesco today :confused: Lucky I filled up a couple of days ago

Chris

And "salty" is only slightly amusing

Sorry honest mistake, I was thinking Fish and Chips, and the S....

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Please don't take this the wrong way but if your at college' date='[/quote']

It's "you're at college".

Dave.

It's "you're at college".

Dave.

I got one 'you're' right, as for the other.... erm........... no excuse really

Should have bought an economical diesel then :P:rofl:

Chris

Just a piggin' shame it costs the best part of

Hi mate, not arguing with your point about farmers. As an ex truck driver (12 years international) I have to correct you on your comment about hauliers.

Firstly, Vat is not a cost you pass on to customers as it were. There is 17.5% vat on fuel, and 17.5% vat on haulage. That 17.5% of everything goes to......the vat man. The haulier will have the vat content he has paid on his fuel taken off his vat bill. That aside, the vat has no relevance whatsoever in the increase in fuel prices.

Rant mode - My truck held 550 litres of fuel, thats 550 quid to fill today. I filled up three, sometimes four times A WEEK!!! You dont get far at 7mg.

That would be