Hello guys,

 

I managed to activate TPMS. Mention that TPMS is not default in Romania, even if I took Elegance, this was in 2013. You can reset TPMS from bolero.

Hello guys,

I managed to activate TPMS. Mention that TPMS is not default in Romania, even if I took Elegance, this was in 2013. You can reset TPMS from bolero.

You don't have a copy of the coding and adaptations required do you?

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Yes, I have:

 

- TPM:

1. 03 ABS Brakes

2. STG Adaptation -> function 10

3. Choose Tire pressure monitoring display

4. verified Store value is 2

5. the same value stored is on Tire pressure monitoring display;tire selection

 

in Long Coding the latest 3 Bytes on my side was 004002 and I changed with 70C002

 

to see the menu in bolero :

1. 5F Information

2. STG Adaptation -> function 10

3. Choose (13) - Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07

4. Set value to active

verified if (14)-Vehicle function list BAB-tire_pressure_system_0x07_msg_bus have value: Suspension data bus

 

1. 5F Information

2. STG Adaptation -> function 10

3. Choose (56)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk

4. Set value to active

verified if this option is actiated: (58)- Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk_over_threshold_high 

 

1. 17 Instruments

2. STG Long Coding -> function 7

3. Byte 04

4. Enable bit 0 -> Indirect Tire Pressure Monitoring System(TPMS) instaled.

Surely after changing pressures you need to drive a short distance before resetting so that the ABS unit knows the new rotational speeds?

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Andy, what you say makes logical sense but, I admit I didn't drive anywhere, I remembered seeing it on here somewhere that its gotta be reset so, I reset it as soon as I started the car on the garage forecourt.  I was increasing to 2.6 bar front and rear for our usual crawl along the A303 to West Country in August, come to think of it, I haven't lowered them yet and a fortnight later I've had no alerts/warnings, its a MY14 1.4 TSI Elegance.

Edited 8 September, 201411 yr by themanwithnoaim

As was explained to me, it works by detecting the difference in rotational speeds between the two wheels on the same axle - with some allowance for cornering. In that case it shouldn't make any difference what the absolute pressures are, just that they are the same.

I'm not going to worry about it. Nothing beats regular checking of pressures manually anyway.

As was explained to me, it works by detecting the difference in rotational speeds between the two wheels on the same axle - with some allowance for cornering. In that case it shouldn't make any difference what the absolute pressures are, just that they are the same.

I'm not going to worry about it. Nothing beats regular checking of pressures manually anyway.

I don't think it works like that as I upped my tyre pressures when going on holiday (full load) and forgot to reset TPMS - after about 100 miles (!!!) I got a tyre pressure warning on all 4 wheels!

Maybe you're right. That's exactly what I got the first time. Although probably about 50 miles in that case.

Travelling along at a steady 72mph going by my sat nav, road works with lane closures reduced speed to 50. After a couple of miles the TPM went off with usual scary warning. No where to stop, so carried on for 5 miles to service station as car felt fine. Walked round, seemed OK. Reset system, on getting home, letting tyres cool I checked them. All pressures were correct.Another piece of EU regulation that could cause an accident if I had been the sort (and some people do) of person that thinks they must stop at once regardless of where they are.

Another piece of EU regulation

 

Sorry for being dim, but I'm evidently missing something here... what EU regulation is it you're on about?

WiggosSideburns, on 15 Sept 2014 - 17:59, said:

Sorry for being dim, but I'm evidently missing something here... what EU regulation is it you're on about?

From 2012 all new models had to have some form of TPMS...

 

From Nov 2014 all new cars sold have to have it....

Edited 15 September, 201411 yr by bouff34

WTF for

WTF for

 So that you know whether it is your wheel rims creating the trail of sparks or your exhaust dragging along the road...?

Sorry for being dim, but I'm evidently missing something here... what EU regulation is it you're on about?

 

 

I think EU are now requiring tyre pressure monitoring for all now cars soon.

 

I have my own stories from the last few days.  I increased pressures on the tyres in prep for driving to the Isle of Wight and the TPMS didn't alert until 50 miles into the journey.  On the last full day of the holiday driving down a back road there was a horrible thumping noise from the back of the car, pulled over and as soon as my passenger opened his door you could hear the hissing from a tyre with a significant leak, managed to limp the car another few hundred yards up the road and into someone's driveway (far too dangerous to stop on the road) and the TPMS only alerted when I started driving with the space saver.

 

Personally I suspect the TPMS MIGHT be useful for a slow leak on the motorway, but no use for bad damage.  What I was very impressed with was the tyre itself - big hole in the shoulder (I suspect a piece of steel / fencing wire as there's damage to the wheel arch where it's spun round) but the car was still perfectly under control at 60 and held up well enough to limp it off the road to a safe place.

Personally I suspect the TPMS MIGHT be useful for a slow leak on the motorway, but no use for bad damage. What I was very impressed with was the tyre itself - big hole in the shoulder (I suspect a piece of steel / fencing wire as there's damage to the wheel arch where it's spun round) but the car was still perfectly under control at 60 and held up well enough to limp it off the road to a safe place.

That is exactly how indirect TPMS is supposed to work. It needs time to notice the difference in rotation speeds. It was never designed with sudden deflations.

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From 2012 all new models had to have some form of TPMS...

 

From Nov 2014 all new cars sold have to have it....

 

You learn something new every day...

 

A quick Google turns up http://www.techeurope.co.uk/tech/news/view/35/European-legislation-on-TPMS-imminent which suggests that the requirement is for a pressure based system - therefore, I'm supposing that it's entirely possible (if not probable) that the system on the Octavia Mk3 is a proper pressure based one, and not anything to do with rotational speeds etc.

therefore, I'm supposing that it's entirely possible (if not probable) that the system on the Octavia Mk3 is a proper pressure based one, and not anything to do with rotational speeds etc.

 

Nope, it's not.

You learn something new every day...

 

A quick Google turns up http://www.techeurope.co.uk/tech/news/view/35/European-legislation-on-TPMS-imminent which suggests that the requirement is for a pressure based system - therefore, I'm supposing that it's entirely possible (if not probable) that the system on the Octavia Mk3 is a proper pressure based one, and not anything to do with rotational speeds etc.

Interesting - does that mean any vehicles type approved after 1st November, or any vehicles sold as new after 1st November, or any vehicles manufactured after 1st November??

 

My L&K is due to be built the second week of November!!

Just wait until they bring the rules in so cars HAVE to have insurance based driving monitors (may as well buy a Toyota Prius then), so if you are running late or find a nice country road, and put your foot down the insurance company will hammer your premium.

Then other one is the auto slow to stop device that the police can active by remote to pull you over. Supposed to be to stop criminals escaping and joy riders.

Yes they ARE genuinely talking about those systems.

Just wait until they bring the rules in so cars HAVE to have insurance based driving monitors (may as well buy a Toyota Prius then), so if you are running late or find a nice country road, and put your foot down the insurance company will hammer your premium.

Then other one is the auto slow to stop device that the police can active by remote to pull you over. Supposed to be to stop criminals escaping and joy riders.

Yes they ARE genuinely talking about those systems.

 

 

At which point I'll be buying a google car.

Well from experience today I can only say the system on the Octavia is excellent.....travelling along the motorway this morning the warning appears. I pull over and the rear offside tyre is deflating (can hear it hissing despite the high volume of fast moving traffic).

Not only did it go off as nature intended, most helpful thing is it tells you which wheel is affected and better than the older "guess which tyre" the Mk2 had. Frightening thought that if the car hadn't had the system, by the time the puncture became obvious and the handling of the car became impaired anything could have happened....possibly saved me having a nasty high speed incident to which I am most grateful.

The best thing though....The full sized spare meant I could continue on with my journey at a reasonable pace and get the tyre sorted at my destination rather than having to get towed to a tyre centre. Anyone who doesn't option a spare tyre think twice before you omit it!

Well from experience today I can only say the system on the Octavia is excellent.....travelling along the motorway this morning the warning appears. I pull over and the rear offside tyre is deflating (can hear it hissing despite the high volume of fast moving traffic).

Not only did it go off as nature intended, most helpful thing is it tells you which wheel is affected and better than the older "guess which tyre" the Mk2 had. Frightening thought that if the car hadn't had the system, by the time the puncture became obvious and the handling of the car became impaired anything could have happened....possibly saved me having a nasty high speed incident to which I am most grateful.

The best thing though....The full sized spare meant I could continue on with my journey at a reasonable pace and get the tyre sorted at my destination rather than having to get towed to a tyre centre. Anyone who doesn't option a spare tyre think twice before you omit it!

Shame I can only like this once!

You would have got 2 likes if I could - one for the spare wheel advice and one for the TPMS

The only issues I've had with tpms are down to not resetting the system when pressures are changed.

If you load your car up and don't reset even if pressures not increased, that can set it off.

When you reset, you put it into a learn mode for 5-10km. You should only reset the system when stationary.

Well from experience today I can only say the system on the Octavia is excellent.....travelling along the motorway this morning the warning appears. I pull over and the rear offside tyre is deflating (can hear it hissing despite the high volume of fast moving traffic).

Not only did it go off as nature intended, most helpful thing is it tells you which wheel is affected and better than the older "guess which tyre" the Mk2 had. Frightening thought that if the car hadn't had the system, by the time the puncture became obvious and the handling of the car became impaired anything could have happened....possibly saved me having a nasty high speed incident to which I am most grateful.

The best thing though....The full sized spare meant I could continue on with my journey at a reasonable pace and get the tyre sorted at my destination rather than having to get towed to a tyre centre. Anyone who doesn't option a spare tyre think twice before you omit it!

That makes it clearer. The false alerts on mine have shown all four wheels in red rather than indicating a particular tyre.

Frightening thought that if the car hadn't had the system, by the time the puncture became obvious and the handling of the car became impaired anything could have happened....possibly saved me having a nasty high speed incident to which I am most grateful.

I was behind and in the next lane to a people carrier a few years ago on the M25. The front right tyre was deflating (virtually flat) and I tried flashing and waving to warn them. Unfortunately it exploded and their car went out of control and spun. Everyone was OK and they avoided colliding with anyone or anything but it scared me just watching it.

I'd rather have a false alarm (one had one in 5 months) than not have this system at all.

That makes it clearer. The false alerts on mine have shown all four wheels in red rather than indicating a particular tyre.

In red???

 

I have had all 4 light up in Orange because I forgot to reset it after changing tyre pressures, and then it wouldn't store the pressures until the ignition was cycled.

 

Red usually means something has gone wrong ..........