Toyo Proxes are not a budget tyre and are usually priced less than Michelins but around the price of pirelli / goodyear. I have had them on many many cars (evo7, RS4, RS6) and use the cars for both road use and track use and have found the Toyo's to be excellent although they do wear a little quicker than conti's and michilens. They are also one of the few tyres I would really rate highly in the wet and thats important given our climate!!

Which ever you choose - choose wisely as it's the most important item onyour car and remember contrary to belief put the new tyres on the rear and the used pair on the front as it is far wiser to have the good tyres on the rear on a fwd car especially if it's wet. Hope this help!

Cheers for all the advice,

Ended up going for the conti -sport contacts, managed to get very good price ( or well I thought so

im running on conti sport contact 2s cost

Quite right Barry, tyres are one of the most important items that you can fit to your car. They are your only contact with the road. Get a bad/cheap/budget tyre and it doesn't matter what you do to the rest of the car in terms of suspension / engine / braking mods as without the "traction" from the tyres, you're stuffed.

Also, you're right about putting the new tyres on the rear, that is the advice that Pirelli give to all their dealers. However, I disagree with it (sort of). If I'm fitting new tyres to a FWD car, I put the new ones on the front as they scrub in quicker there. Once scrubbed, I swap them to the rear as I've found that the rears take a while to scrub in. Bit of a mute point really for me as I rotate mine regularly and always end up buying 4 at once.

Can I register a vote for new tyres on the front please. While I feel I can deal with some loss of grip at the rear, I'm finding it really annoying and somewhat scary at times at present to have reduced control of the front. I know which I'd rather have!

Indeed, that's why I put them on the front to get them scrubbed ASAP, then switch them to the rear. If you look on the Pirelli website, there is an article on the whys and wherefores of their prescribed fitting preferences for new tyres.

Here's the article Real Skoda refers to. I have to say I'm still not convinced - I want that water dispersion and stiction at the front, thanks.

Does anyone have any views on the Michelin Pilot Primacys? this is whats fitted to my furby vRS. they seem a bit naff in the wet, but it could just be me and my n00b-ness to torque and a semi-aggressive suspension setup.

Had them on mine, though I'd imagine yours might be wider. Weren't great in the wet, but the slip was very progressive - the Toyo's I've got now provide a fair amount of grip up to a point, and then are as much use as ice cubes after this.

Weren't stunningly adhesive in the dry either, but on the plus side they did last pretty much 30k miles!

Rob.

At the end of the day grip generates heat, which softens, and wears quicker.

A grippy tyre will not last as long as a less grippy one - tis the price you pay...