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Remap - Any prerequisites?

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Ive done a bit of reading on the website and understand, that for different stage remaps it would be wise to upgrade intake/exhaust/clutch depending on what you chose.

 

Going for a stage 1 remap, are there any prerequisites like checking engine/turbo health etc before getting it done?

I did the following on stage 1:

 

1) New PCV

2) x 4 new Coilpacks

3) Rev D Diverter Valve

 

You don't NEED an exhaust or intake at stage 1. The clutch should be okay; mine lasted from 90,000 miles to 120,000 miles on stage 1 with no issues. However the moment I left my remapper with stage 2 the clutch slipped!

 

Stage 1:

 

1) Remap

 

Stage 2:

 

1) 3" Downpipe w/ 200 cell sports cat (Pipewerx sell a downpipe which fits straight to your standard cat-back exhaust).

2) Uprated intake

3) Stage 2 map

 

Stage 2+:

 

All of the above plus:

 

1) High Pressure Fuel Pump

2) Stage 2+ map

 

You can add a full turbo back exhaust at stage 2 and intercooler upgrade (8P S3) etc; but the upgrades listed are the basics.

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Not long ago repolaced the PCV and DV, so thats handy. Did you replace the coil pack with standard OEM or did you upgrade?

 

Car is around 92,000 miles and have decided to run it until something expensive goes wrong, so a remap should keep me interested.

 

Thanks for the above.

After I went to stage 1, the car developed a misfire, attributed to 1x coilpack.  As a test, we reverted back to the stock map and the misfire couldn't be recreated, so it appeared to be down to a faulty coil pack, albeit the fault was only evident under the heavier load of the stage 1 map.  Replaced the single coilpack with another standard one and had no issues since.  I'd say standard coilpacks are ideal for a stage 1 remap, no need to upgrade.

If you are still on the original coil packs, then budget for replacement. Mine went within 60 odd miles of having the remap. The 25% discount off stage 1 map from Shark went towards replacing the coils so not too unhappy!

Make sure your car is worth the expense. 

 

Engine in good condition.

Brakes and Suspension too.

They will all be stressed more if you use the extra performance.

 

Yes, I'm sure you know.

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What kind of money should I put aside for coil packs?

 

How would you define engine in good condition? As far as I'm aware or in my opinion the engine is in good condition for its age (apart from the common high oil consumption), but I dont want to get a remap and then be chasing faults and rectifying them adding to the overall cost.

 

Suspension has recently been replaced/upgraded and could look into new discs and pads all round.

About £80 for 4 coil packs.

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For every stock car ECU remap - suspension.

 

"Suspension must be faster than engine."

 

What is point of high performance, if you crash in first corner.

 

I see many people talking about big brakes, ecu remap...spent few years by karting and learn how to drive.

 

Then you realise that you're upgrading wrong parts.

 

I recently bought a new car. My old Fabia HR was reasonable upgrade over stock car. Now, I see how limited stock cars are.

 

My latest project is Octavia II 2.0TDi - there is about everything rubbish. Brakes are major problem on every stock car, suspension the second one.

 

Best upgrade you can get is two years of karting with pros. Then upgrade brakes and suspension. After that, you can finally remap. put bigger turbo, high flow injectors. then replace by stronger clutch...you end up with highly modified VAG car worth more than Subaru Impreza WRX STi...still it's just VAG car ;-)

My God there is some guff in the above post.

Forgot to add, sniper29a, I think you may be lost, try this link http://www.scoobynet.com/forum.php

Your posts contain more about how wonderful a Subaru is and how bad vag is you may get on better with some like minded souls

HTH

Forgot to add, sniper29a, I think you may be lost, try this link http://www.scoobynet.com/forum.php

Your posts contain more about how wonderful a Subaru is and how bad vag is you may get on better with some like minded souls

HTH

I used to have both. My unbiased experience. I don't care about car brands - car is reflection of owner.

 

I chose Skoda for reliability and economy.

 

I chose Subaru because it is public racing car - all basic stuff already in...real AWD, simply and optimal design.

 

 

It is same phenomenon, I see in photo forums...Mega Pixel wars...a guy with analog camera makes better pictures (technically and artistically) than a guy with state of art camera.

 

It is all down to intelligence and common sense. You can't make gold from **** ;-)

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Forgot to add, sniper29a, I think you may be lost, try this link http://www.scoobynet.com/forum.php

Your posts contain more about how wonderful a Subaru is and how bad vag is you may get on better with some like minded souls

HTH

I guess you are one of these geniuses, in an other thread, who claim VAG 4x4 is AWD system and preach how good is it. Then an other idiot claim that Subaru is rubbish because he didn't have oil in differentials. Always amusing to watch geniuses at work.

I guess you are one of these geniuses, in an other thread, who claim VAG 4x4 is AWD system and preach how good is it. Then an other idiot claim that Subaru is rubbish because he didn't have oil in differentials. Always amusing to watch geniuses at work.

No, not in the slightest, its better to keep quite and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and confirm it ;-)

No, not in the slightest, its better to keep quite and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and confirm it ;-)

I wonder why didn't you keep quiet then?

 

It is always interesting how people response to facts and old wives truths.

 

If you tell them how it works - they hate you. If you feed them with dreams - they love you. No wonder, present society works so well :-D

I wonder why didn't you keep quiet then?

It is always interesting how people response to facts and old wives truths.

If you tell them how it works - they hate you. If you feed them with dreams - they love you. No wonder, present society works so well :-D

Sorry chap you're confusing me with someone else. I read all your nonsense on the scout 4x4 thread but didn't post a reply on that topic at all.

The only other topics we have both posted on are to do with tyres and brakes, again I have avoided replying to your pearls of wisdom on those threads to.

I have to say for a lot of typing there is very little of any worth to be gained.

Empty cans rattle the most :-)

Sorry chap you're confusing me with someone else. I read all your nonsense on the scout 4x4 thread but didn't post a reply on that topic at all.

The only other topics we have both posted on are to do with tyres and brakes, again I have avoided replying to your pearls of wisdom on those threads to.

I have to say for a lot of typing there is very little of any worth to be gained.

Empty cans rattle the most :-)

I noticed you have problems with reading at the very first post where you confirmed your intelligence.

 

It looks like you can read only names in thread and last words. Sniper29a and Subaru Impreza.

 

Perhaps, you should work on your education first before you preach about others ;-)

 

As idiots in Scout 4x4 forums - you are more interested in name calling and back smacking instead of learning about simple natural laws and technology based on simple theories created by man.

 

It is really amusing to watch both - intelligence of connected generation and herd knowledge created by marketing.

I noticed you have problems with reading at the very first post where you confirmed your intelligence.

It looks like you can read only names in thread and last words. Sniper29a and Subaru Impreza.

Perhaps, you should work on your education first before you preach about others ;-)

As idiots in Scout 4x4 forums - you are more interested in name calling and back smacking instead of learning about simple natural laws and technology based on simple theories created by man.

It is really amusing to watch both - intelligence of connected generation and herd knowledge created by marketing.

Oh dear, what part of I didn't list on that thread don't you understand.

This ia like arguing with a child - pointless and totally unproductive

Have a sit down in a dark room away from the internet. It may do you some Good.

Ciao.

Sir, we are back to reading problem.

 

First, you claim something.

 

Second, you claim you didn't claim it.

 

I wonder - are you woman? I see similar logic and behavioural patterns.

OOPS -- I think you've just managed to upset a LOT of members on here LOL!

 

Mike

I doubt so - you can never upset intelligent people ;-)

Welcome to SCN............................

 

 

 

 

......................sorry, you say this is Briskoda??? It just sounds just like a lot of threads over there!

 

 

 

No change to anything when I stage 1 remapped my 1.9PD, (Shark STS map). Certainly no change to suspension -- it's all very well saying the power is OK until the first corner, but many don't remap to make the car go quicker. The roads around where I live are full of 1 in 3 and 1 in 4 hills, and the main road between Whitby and Scarborough has some pretty hefty hills too. The 1.9 as standard just seemed a bit lacking in pulling power on these hills, and I had it remapped purely to help it on these hills. Now I'm not up and down the gearbox anywhere near as much as it used to --and the benefit of the increase in MPG has made it even more worth it. Cornering and bends? Nah, I still slow down to a point where I know the car is more than capable of performing without pushing my luck.

 

The remap has not been done for a performance benefit, it is purely to make the car easier and more pleasant to drive.

 

Mike

I understand your concern sir. It is always down to suspension - how do you want to transfer more torque to wheels if you have stock suspension and every pot hole bumps the wheel off the road and ASR kicks in?

 

My last car in Scotland was Fabia 1.9TDi PD100 (no upgrades) - I wonder what lack in pulling power you refer to? 280Nm is decent for light family car.

 

I am sure you won't buy family car for pulling purposes right?

Lack of pulling power might not have been the words I was really looking for. What I do certainly mean is that before the remap, the standard Octavia 1.9PD 105 as it was hit a steep hill, with the car fully loaded and 3 dogs in the back, and I had no option but to gear down to prevent the engine from labouring hard. The remap has given it much more torque, and so eliminated, or at least vastly reduced, the need for changing down. The car pulls far, far better now without gearing lower.

 

As far as the transfer of the torque to the wheels, the increase in torque has gone from the standard 250Nm (less than your Fabia, and the Octavia combi is a much heavier and bigger car too) to 310Nm. Never once have I hit a pot hole and had the wheels bouncing off the road! And the only time the ASR kicks in is when accelerating hard from slow speed on a wet road, especially on my thinner winter tyres -- so I avoid doing that wherever possible. As I've already said, performance is not why I wanted the car remapped. I'm not interested in improving acceleration times from slow speeds or standstills, better handling on bends or increasing top speed -- I'm quite happy with the way the car handles as it is.

 

What I'm more concerned about is making steep hills easier for the car at a reasonable cruising speed, and making it easier for myself by not constantly changing up and down the gearbox. MPG figures have increased significantly since the remap, and I hope that less changing gear on the road is also preserving clutch life too.

 

Mike

Interesting. I burned a clutch very often even with standard tune but Scottish hills are pretty steep I guess.

 

Before Fabia, I had Subaru Impreza - that was a whole different story in hills.

My God there is some guff in the above post.

My Father -in-Law is Austrian so I've had 35 years to study the personality.  It's a combination of genes & the translation from their dialect to English (they don't speak real Cherman like I don't speak real Englich).

 

He's probably right in his own way but is unaware that there are more than 2 ways to skin a cat.

My Father -in-Law is Austrian so I've had 35 years to study the personality. It's a combination of genes & the translation from their dialect to English (they don't speak real Cherman like I don't speak real Englich).

He's probably right in his own way but is unaware that there are more than 2 ways to skin a cat.

Thanks Brad, I wasn't aware of his nationality.

I spose its a bit like this old saying - you can tell a Yorkshire man, just not much :-)

(Tongue firmly in cheek!)

Oi you! Look where I'm based!

Only joking, I'm a Red Roser exiled in White Rose Land LOL!

Mike

:-)

Tbh I have never found the above true, I've worked with a lot of guys from Wakefield, we moved a factory from there to northants, to a man they were great guys to work with and get to know over the couple of years I worked with them.

I also know a few refuge Cockney's in Milton Keynes, that saying is tailor made for those buggers!

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