I'm wondering is there a speed limiter on the vRS or any other Octavia 3? 

 

Is it a hidden option within VCDS or hidden away somewhere else? 

 

I know that there's a speed warning, but I haven't noticed a method to limit the top speed to say 90 or whatever you desire.

 

Ta.

The speed limiter is the combination of your eyes on the dial and your foot on the accelerator

In all fairness, there are systems like that available on other makes: basically unless you really floor the accelerator it will not go past a set speed. In my Scirocco I also just have the speed warning that goes "bing" when I get into the "expensive speed excess region".

That said, the Citroen C4 at work has a limiter and I never figured out how to use it either.

 

While we are on this topic: Does the Octy also have a speed limit warning for winter tires? The Scirocco has one, it's set but even going past it does nothing. (and the car can't know if it's winter or summer.)

I'm wondering is there a speed limiter on the vRS or any other Octavia 3? 

 

Is it a hidden option within VCDS or hidden away somewhere else? 

 

I know that there's a speed warning, but I haven't noticed a method to limit the top speed to say 90 or whatever you desire.

 

Ta.

 

I did read somewhere a while back (not specifically on the MK3 Octy admittedly) that there was a way to restrict the maximum speed on some VAG and other makes, mainly used for company cars/vans for some organisations e.g. British Gas that use a lot of VW stuff. Some of you may have seen some cars/vans with a max speed 70 badge on the rear, certainly I have seen a fair few on the M4 motorway over the last few years and they are increasing in popularity. I also read that this max speed restriction could only be reduced to a lower speed and not back up to stop said company vehicles being hacked by the driver. To bring it back to factory a new electronic brain had to be purchased at quite a considerable sum. As always on the web, not everything is true but I do wonder if this is the place for setting it if it is.

From the Ross Tech site:

 

Channel 18: 

• On some EDC-15 ECUs, this channel has a non-zero value in it like 190.
• Yes, that's the "speed limiter".   Don't mess with it! 
• It can only be adjusted downward, and it's one-way!   You cannot increase the value, and if you decrease it, you're stuck with it.
• So unless you want to permanently decrease your car's top speed, Don't mess with it!
• If you do mess with it and your car ends up with a lower top speed than it had before, don't call us, don't e-mail us, and don't complain that we didn't warn you!

 

I think this only applies to PD engined cars in certain markets. Some Audis in the US market were limited to 130 mph at one time.

 

Edit:

 

Link added :

 http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/tdi.html

 

 

Edit again:

 

I got the above back to front. The Channel 18 reference above does NOT apply to PD engines - it refers to other VAG TDI motors.

OP

 

Your question piqued my interest. There is loads on the web about this, and not a few threads on this forum either. Here's one for example:

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/235011-some-people-should-not-be-allowed-to-use-vcds/

 

So I suppose the answer to your original question has to be:  YES THERE IS.

In all fairness, there are systems like that available on other makes: basically unless you really floor the accelerator it will not go past a set speed. In my Scirocco I also just have the speed warning that goes "bing" when I get into the "expensive speed excess region".

That said, the Citroen C4 at work has a limiter and I never figured out how to use it either.

 

While we are on this topic: Does the Octy also have a speed limit warning for winter tires? The Scirocco has one, it's set but even going past it does nothing. (and the car can't know if it's winter or summer.)

Yes it does have a speed limit warning for winter tyres, however some winter tyres now are rated up to 165mph!!!

The speed limiter is the combination of your eyes on the dial and your foot on the accelerator

Surely it's more the engine power, gearing and aerodynamics :-)

OP

 

Your question piqued my interest. There is loads on the web about this, and not a few threads on this forum either. Here's one for example:

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/235011-some-people-should-not-be-allowed-to-use-vcds/

 

So I suppose the answer to your original question has to be:  YES THERE IS.

 

Not like that, you know you can set a reminder to say 85 mph on maxidot, I was looking in there to see if you can set a maximum speed in there. And as I haven't got between £170 - £450 spare to spend on the VCDS system, it won't bother me anyway and even if I did I wouldn't touch the cars diagnostic system, as I'm a cack handed sod who'd only manage to cause utter chaos & damage!

Yes it does have a speed limit warning for winter tyres, however some winter tyres now are rated up to 165mph!!!

Mine are rated to 130mph, so the luxembourg equivalent of the MOT forced me to put a "max 210kmh" sticker on the dash. The next ones will be rated higher than the vmax of the car and I'll be done with that ;-)

Not cruise related but wouldnt be surprised if the 220ps TSI has a soft 155mph limiter on it

While we are on this topic: Does the Octy also have a speed limit warning for winter tires? 

 

In the columbus settings there is an option to enable a winter tyre warning & select your rated speed. (should be the same for the other infotainment units ?)

If you exceed this speed there will be an Maxidot warning for winter wheel speed.

 

You can also set the manual speed limit warning in the Maxidot which gives the same message/beep but without mentioning "winter tyres".

I think we should differentiate between a "variable speed limiter" as requested by the OP and "Maximum Vehicle Speed" which always limits your maximum speed.

 

A variable speed limit (as found on Peugeot/Citroen for example) allows you to set a temporary maximum speed using the cruise control interface.

You have to drive the car with the accelerator but the power is reduced once you reach the defined limit unless you kick-down.

I find this extremely useful when driving in the city or through villages so you don't accidentally drift over the limit.

 

I was suprised when I didn't have it on my Octavia but my 8-year old 207 does.

It seems an ommission on several brands (my last Ford's didn't have it) & something I would also like on my Octavia.

I think we should differentiate between a "variable speed limiter" as requested by the OP and "Maximum Vehicle Speed" which always limits your maximum speed.

 

A variable speed limit (as found on Peugeot/Citroen for example) allows you to set a temporary maximum speed using the cruise control interface.

You have to drive the car with the accelerator but the power is reduced once you reach the defined limit unless you kick-down.

I find this extremely useful when driving in the city or through villages so you don't accidentally drift over the limit.

 

I was suprised when I didn't have it on my Octavia but my 8-year old 207 does.

It seems an ommission on several brands (my last Ford's didn't have it) & something I would also like on my Octavia.

 

You have got exactly what I'm on about. 

Not cruise related but wouldnt be surprised if the 220ps TSI has a soft 155mph limiter on it

Unlikely to need one since they cant get to 155

In the columbus settings there is an option to enable a winter tyre warning & select your rated speed. (should be the same for the other infotainment units ?)

If you exceed this speed there will be an Maxidot warning for winter wheel speed.

But how does it know that it's winter, or that the winter tyres are on the car? Unless it only works with a satnav. I have the option in my Scirocco but since the car only knows the time but not the date (normal radio no satnav) and I haven't found a setting to say that I've got the winter tyres on, the option is useless.

But how does it know that it's winter, or that the winter tyres are on the car? Unless it only works with a satnav. I have the option in my Scirocco but since the car only knows the time but not the date (normal radio no satnav) and I haven't found a setting to say that I've got the winter tyres on, the option is useless.

 

It doesn't.

You have a tick-box to enable "winter tyre warning" and then a spped option to select the maximum speed allowed for the wheels you've fitted.

So it's down to the driver or garage that fits the wheels to correctly enable the function.

 

The opposite in summer, you have to disable the function when fitting the original wheels.

 

 

Although, with the quality of the winter tyres now the function is not really so useful (unless you live in Germany) because I'll never drive anywhere close to the speed limit of the tyres.

Edited 10 February, 201511 yr by Gabbo

Unlikely to need one since they cant get to 155

pre my remap my TSI VRS has achieved a 155mph+ speed, without a prevailing wind nor going down hill, not sure what it could do now it's got 330bhp+, however in stock it came out with over 240bhp so that might explain its willingness to keep going   

Stock max speed is 154. Speedometers are not to be relied up , nor are some dynos . You can easy work out the top speed using the gearing and the max engine rpm. If the engine can reach max rpm in top gear you can add as much power as you like and you won't go any quicker

http://www.cargister.com/calculator-gear-ratio?rpm=6200&final_ratio_teeths[]=&final_ratio_teeths[]=&fdr=4.77&diameter=637.2&ratio[1]=2.92&ratio[2]=1.79&ratio[3]=1.14&ratio[4]=0.78&ratio[5]=0.80&ratio[6]=0.64&speed_in=mph&width=225&profile=40&wheel_diameter=18&teeths[1][]=&teeths[2][]=&teeths[1][]=&teeths[2][]=&teeths[1][]=&teeths[2][]=&teeths[1][]=&teeths[2][]=&teeths[1][]=&teeths[2][]=&teeths[1][]=&teeths[2][]=

 

Pretty sure this is right for the standard petrol DSG , data taken from here (link below) . The thing you can influence when tuning is the peak power and the peak power rpm point, if you have that data (off a dyno sheet) you can work out the top speed the gearing will allow (not taking into account friction/resistance)

 

http://www.valleiautogroep.nl/downloads/Technische%20specificaties%20SKODA%20Octavia%20Combi%20RS.pdf

It doesn't.

You have a tick-box to enable "winter tyre warning" and then a spped option to select the maximum speed allowed for the wheels you've fitted.

So it's down to the driver or garage that fits the wheels to correctly enable the function.

 

The opposite in summer, you have to disable the function when fitting the original wheels.

 

 

Although, with the quality of the winter tyres now the function is not really so useful (unless you live in Germany) because I'll never drive anywhere close to the speed limit of the tyres.

Cheers,

Never noticed the option on the Scirocco. But as you say it doesn't really matter. The winter tyres I have are rated for up to 210kmh. Even when I drive in Germany those speeds are not common, and the tyres won't be shredded even if I drive at 220 for a minute or two.

Edited 10 February, 201511 yr by TomLux

I use ACC as my speed limiter

I only have the Swing radio so no on-board GPS, but I have a really cheap old GPS I occasionally use and it is preloaded with the speed limits for the road you are on and it will warn you with an audible noise if you exceed the limit and continue (with greater urgency) if you don't reduce your speed.

You have to download speed limit updates occasionally and obviously will not know of road works or temporary limit changes.

Does the GPS on Octavia have this facility? Or can you use the sign recognition system to vary the Maxidot warning?

Does the GPS on Octavia have this facility? Or can you use the sign recognition system to vary the Maxidot warning?

 

The navigation displays the speed limit defined for the road (based on the map data you are using) which as you point out is not necessarily up-to-date.

I don't have the sign recognition option but I believe it works the same way by displaying the sign in the Maxidot.

 

Neither can be linked with an audiable warning or physical speed limit as far as I know.

I haven't found a way of getting an audible warning if you exceed the speed limit picked up by the traffic sign recognition camera.

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