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I had a play with the torque pro OBD  app on Android today.  After the couple of ECU faults I have had thought I would make the purchase.

So today I thought I would give the 0-60 feature a run.  (On a private road)

Calibrated the application for the Fabia VRS.

Conditions

Damp road patches

Outside temp 5.0C

 

Car

Tyres checked and set

One person (Driver)

Oil Temp 90c

TC off

Manual

 

Modifications

VWR High performance panel filter

 

Out of the best of 6 runs the best I could hit was 6.3s based on the application.  I know it’s not scientific but it was fun.

Also it said the HP was 246bhp so not sure how it got to that output…   

 

 

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I had a play with the torque pro OBD  app on Android today.  After the couple of ECU faults I have had thought I would make the purchase.

So today I thought I would give the 0-60 feature a run.  (On a private road)

Calibrated the application for the Fabia VRS.

Conditions

Damp road patches

Outside temp 5.0C

 

Car

Tyres checked and set

One person (Driver)

Oil Temp 90c

TC off

Manual

 

Modifications

VWR High performance panel filter

 

Out of the best of 6 runs the best I could hit was 6.3s based on the application.  I know it’s not scientific but it was fun.

Also it said the HP was 246bhp so not sure how it got to that output…

what do you think to the vwr replacement filter? I've had a play with the obd app before on the car.
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I have switched between the OEM and VWR a couple of times for comparison and prefer the VWR.  

 

It just sounds better whether you’re driving normally or using the gears.  And I definitely thinks it pulls harder above 3.5k and through 3rd, 4th and 5th. 

 

I also do a trip from Manchester to Leeds each week and mostly use cruise so was getting around 43 mpg on the OEM but get around the 47mpg mark now for the same trip.

I been looking at this torque app and it says I need some adaptor can anyone recommend me one please. Seen a few on ebay but there is alot to choose from and not sure which one. Thanks

Wish the bike had an OBD port.

Could have hours of fun with this...

how much does this app cost?

I paid 3,55 euros so almost nothing.

 

The annoying thing is that you have to remove the fuse cover every time you want to use the OBD port then put it back in. This puts me off from using it more often.

Any BT elm 327 adapter will work on Android.

 

Take the timings with a pinch of salt as it ain't perfect.

The timings arent too far off if you have your gps on. The app was .2 of a second out when I did mine. Backed up by an expensive speed gps thingy. Cant remember the name. I love the app. Use it a lot. Will be using even more when I get round to buying my new head unit. I completely ignore the bhp and torque read outs. Think I paid a few pounds for the app for android.

Any BT elm 327 adapter will work on Android.

Take the timings with a pinch of salt as it ain't perfect.

Saves on a dyno run though :)

And, my, what mahoosive bhp figures

downloaded it, and ordered the adapter :)

Saves on a dyno run though :)

And, my, what mahoosive bhp figures

 

I'm wondering if this a deliberate effort to get yet another thread locked or just plain boredom...

I've never actually tried the timings as it's of no concern of mine, but the as said the BHP and torque are way out.

 

I'm not sure how much info it can pull from the newer cars but on my mk1 Octavia it could do quite a bit of useful info.

 

It's pretty accurate on OBD info. A slight bit of lag compred to VCDS but it's good enough to see if a maf is duff for example.

Timing and speed will be pretty accurate but the hp is based on the weight of the car and data that you need to enter ......as they say garbage in ....... :notme:

 

I used to use this with my Evo , it was .5 of a HP out at the wheels compared to a DD dyno

 

http://www.virtualdyno.net/

I don't think anybody takes power figures calculated from such an app seriously. I've never even bothered checking this with mine not even out of the slightest interest. As said before, speed and timing are pretty accurate but I think a +/- 0.2 - 0.3" can be expected. At least it's repeatable so while any absolute measurements may be slightly off, it will offer good relative info, for example a before and after remap comparison.

No reason why they cant be accurate its basic mathematics ie speed over time its how a dyno works

No reason why they cant be accurate its basic mathematics ie speed over time its how a dyno works

 

I was referring to the Torque app not the software you posted, are we talking about the same thing?

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Timing and speed will be pretty accurate but the hp is based on the weight of the car and data that you need to enter ......as they say garbage in ....... :notme:

 

I used to use this with my Evo , it was .5 of a HP out at the wheels compared to a DD dyno

 

http://www.virtualdyno.net/

 

Just checked this and there is a section I missed.

Total Vehicle Weight, including the driver, fuel, etc (Torque and HP calcs need this)  I had it set to 1400kg

I am guessing it should be around the Weight 1243 kg + me = 1325kg so would 75 kilo give such a big difference?

 

Based on http://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/skoda/skoda-fabia-vrs-1.4-tsi-dsg.asp

Edited by pkoconnor

You need mass in running order really, best way is go to a weigh bridge

I was thinking about this.

Why cant you make sat navs do similar things? All the technology is there, it just needs to time between speeds?

Why cant my Zumo do this? Aha.

Its got a max speed thing but thats about it

Just checked this and there is a section I missed.

Total Vehicle Weight, including the driver, fuel, etc (Torque and HP calcs need this)  I had it set to 1400kg

I am guessing it should be around the Weight 1243 kg + me = 1325kg so would 75 kilo give such a big difference?

 

Based on http://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/skoda/skoda-fabia-vrs-1.4-tsi-dsg.asp

 

Looks like about 0.3s, according to this calculator which I've found reasonably accurate.

 

http://www.060calculator.com/

Out of the best of 6 runs the best I could hit was 6.3s based on the application.  I know it’s not scientific but it was fun.

Also it said the HP was 246bhp so not sure how it got to that output…   

 

As I've said, always take these with a pinch of salt but for what it's worth...

 

I went out today to find a proper "private road" and the best I could end up with was some narrow tractor's route across long farms, with too patched up an "asphalt" and lots of up-n-down's, just on the limit of not taking off while driving fast over it  :dull:  To make it worse, I was on cold butter-soft Nexens  :thumbdown:

 

Anyway, TC OFF and Manual got me wheel spinning all the way from 2 to 6K in 1st gear (getting full power down at such low speeds is much more difficult after the remap) I managed 5.8s for 0-60mph / 6.0s for 0-100kmh (couldn't get a screenshot as I'm on stock Lollipop and forgot to start logging through the app). So, I suppose on an average quality tarmac, with proper tyres, and a bit of more practice (not really into 0-60 races) a couple of extra tenths could be easily gained, as long as I manage not to cook the tyres - smell was too much this time.

 

I promise I'll try to repeat this mainly out of curiosity once these beauties go on the car and I will have found a safe and proper road meant for cars, not tractors...:

 

 

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Edited by newbie69

^^^ my summer tyres ^^^, bedded in on a dry road, you can launch without any wheelspin at all with RSR's.... probably even with your power!

^^^ my summer tyres ^^^, bedded in on a dry road, you can launch without any wheelspin at all with RSR's.... probably even with your power!

 

Looking forward for this to be true! The wheel-spin on the Nexens was enormous, thought I left half the tyre there, lol

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