http://www.worldcarfans.com/115022089167/skoda-octavia-rs-230-special-edition-announced

 

 

WE KNOW!

WE KNOW!

 

Problem with the posting routine, could not see another mention of it, wonder if they wil do a tweaked diesel or not bother, perhaps they might use the other tailpipe this time?

 

I thought the Fabia 2 VRS already had a XDS electronic differential unless it is different diff in Octy 3 230hp.

XDS isnt really a diff....its the ESP system braking wheels to prevent understeer.

The diff in question is the VAQ mechanical (but electronically controlled) system as employed on the PP equipped Golf GTi and Leon Cupra. I have my suspicions that the 230 wont get the diff but you never know.

I have my suspicions that the 230 wont get the diff but you never know.

According to the articles, it is getting the proper diff from the Golf GTi PP.

Could use the adaptive dampners that come standard on the Cupra

According to the articles, it is getting the proper diff from the Golf GTi PP.

Hmmm thats good news. I wonder if it gets the bigger rear vented brakes too. Be nice if it did.

One of these with a map could be some car for the money....perhaps in due course there will be a PP option for the mainstream TSI too?

Hmmm thats good news. I wonder if it gets the bigger rear vented brakes too. Be nice if it did.

One of these with a map could be some car for the money....perhaps in due course there will be a PP option for the mainstream TSI too?

 

And what will be the premium on the price over the 220 hp VRS version?  All these VAG cars S3, Leon Cupra, Petrol Octy VRS, Golf  GTI, all PDQ, GTI/VRS with a remap of course to bring it up close to the 300 hp mark, 0-60 in 6 seconds, top speeds well over 150 mph ie academic unless in Germany.  VRS always the standout to me with its large boot and use to be much better value with the MK1 and Mk2 petrol VRSs which I do feel is not there with the Mk3.

 

Police may well like it as it will tick boxes for them.  With Skoda Octy VRSs prices too close to discounted other Golf platformed prices the Octy petrol VRS 3 still looks like it does not have the same space in the market as the previous versions, except for cops until 4 wheel drive Superbs come around later in the year.

 

Still thinking better plan is to have a cheap 600 litre luggage lugger (Dacia Logan ) and then a Clio RS  for fun for many thousands of pounds less than a petrol VRS.         

And what will be the premium on the price over the 220 hp VRS version? All these VAG cars S3, Leon Cupra, Petrol Octy VRS, Golf GTI, all PDQ, GTI/VRS with a remap of course to bring it up close to the 300 hp mark, 0-60 in 6 seconds, top speeds well over 150 mph ie academic unless in Germany. VRS always the standout to me with its large boot and use to be much better value with the MK1 and Mk2 petrol VRSs which I do feel is not there with the Mk3.

Police may well like it as it will tick boxes for them. With Skoda Octy VRSs prices too close to discounted other Golf platformed prices the Octy petrol VRS 3 still looks like it does not have the same space in the market as the previous versions, except for cops until 4 wheel drive Superbs come around later in the year.

Still thinking better plan is to have a cheap 600 litre luggage lugger (Dacia Logan ) and then a Clio RS for fun for many thousands of pounds less than a petrol VRS.

You can keep your Dacia Logan or whatever that is! Providing you drive a Decent discount on the mk3 TSI then it's still a good priced car.

XDS, great addition. An extra 10bhp and 0.1 sec quicker time?! In the real world that means nothing, come on skoda!

And what is the premium likely to be on a 'special edition'?

And aren't 'standard' VRSs coming out at more than 220 stock anyway?

Edited 22 February, 201511 yr by Bindinbear

You can keep your Dacia Logan or whatever that is! Providing you drive a Decent discount on the mk3 TSI then it's still a good priced car.

 

Dacia are the new Skoda.

 

Dacia are unncannily similar to what Skoda was 20 years ago.  Incredible value ie half to two thirds of what the rest of the pack charge for a car.  Dacia are part of the World's 4th largest car producing group ie Nissan-Renault etc etc and get the same getting cutting edge engines that Nissan and Renault get, very similar profile to Skoda 20 years ago.

 

Having run petrol Mark 1 and 2 VRS and liked them very much they we still a bargain with the "No VAT offer" ie £17K for a decently quick car.  Can you get a Mk3 VRS or much under £20K? I have not look but I got the impression that discounts, even 1 year and more past launch, were not that great especially when you can get 10-20% of other VAG stuff.

 

I did find that the petrol VRS did suffer from traction issues due to the relatively large amount of weight over the rear axle compared to the shorter Golf platformed models which can be seen in its 0-60 time in the dry and it is much worse in the wet. 

 

Mk 3 sales have been good for fleet buyers taxi etc but the private sales have been quite poor and that, I  believe, is to its lack of uniqueness in the market.  Hopefully all Euroland made cars will get a bit cheaper with the decline in the Euro but I struggle to see the benefits of buying one over so many other good and discounted cars that are classier or quicker or both for similar money.  Been a big Skoda fan for 20 years but think they have lost their raison d'être.        

The vRS 230 is a bit smoke and mirrors it sounds good on paper but what do you get for your money 10 BHP more and a proper diff and you might get the big rear brake? There is a lot more skoda need to say about this car

Because with one or two mods the standard octy vRS TSI will be a lot better and the vRS 230 we have to wait and see

Its likely a precursor to a Performance Pack (they might refer to it as RS+/vRS+ pack) being made available for the regular vRS models.

A mild power hike, PP diff and rear brakes, 19's and special black pack....not terrible value for circa. €1k but we'll see what actually makes it to production....we may never see it in the UK anyway.

XDS, great addition. An extra 10bhp and 0.1 sec quicker time?! In the real world that means nothing, come on skoda!

And what is the premium likely to be on a 'special edition'?

And aren't 'standard' VRSs coming out at more than 220 stock anyway?

its not the software based xds, its a proper hardware based solution as fitted to the cupra and GTi pp.

The vRS 230 is a bit smoke and mirrors it sounds good on paper but what do you get for your money 10 BHP more and a proper diff and you might get the big rear brake? There is a lot more skoda need to say about this car

Because with one or two mods the standard octy vRS TSI will be a lot better and the vRS 230 we have to wait and see

If its 1k I'd have it over the standard vRS. Unique cabin trim and SE sports seats sound nice and if the 19" extremes are included on the uk cars then great - they were £1000 as an option on their own, weren't they? Lets see the estate!

Not sure on this one, after all I was lucky enough to have my car mapped for free as it was used for development and it's plenty quick enough in real world conditions, of course if I was tracking my car more then maybe, however I'm sure the new Superb is coming in with the 276bhp engine, 4x4 and DSG although at £35k???

 

Will have to wait and see what you actually get for your money as new this special ed is going to be a tad pricey  :no:  :no:

Dacia are the new Skoda.

Having run petrol Mark 1 and 2 VRS and liked them very much they we still a bargain with the "No VAT offer" ie £17K for a decently quick car.  Can you get a Mk3 VRS or much under £20K? I have not look but I got the impression that discounts, even 1 year and more past launch, were not that great especially when you can get 10-20% of other VAG stuff..

£21K gets you a new DSG VRS as opposed to £25K for a new (admittedly 230BHP) Golf GTI on Autotrader. Additionally there are deals for new petrol VRS under £19K tax paid on the net for police, Hm Forces, diplomats. So it really depends on your personal needs, I.e space required and if you want to really chuck it around twisty roads, traffic jams , weather and road conditions permitting.... and if you want to spend the extra dosh to get a more premium badge.

On the subject of the original post, the SE will appeal to new buyers, the additional performance gains seem meaningless to existing owners, unless they really need a diff. My MKIII corners better than the standard VRS MkII so it will suffice for my driving style and requirements.

£21K gets you a new DSG VRS as opposed to £25K for a new (admittedly 230BHP) Golf GTI on Autotrader. Additionally there are deals for new petrol VRS under £19K tax paid on the net for police, Hm Forces, diplomats

Be interested to see where you can get a new vRS DSG for £21k

And how many of us are in the forces to take advantage of those prices?

£21K gets you a new DSG VRS as opposed to £25K for a new (admittedly 230BHP) Golf GTI on Autotrader. Additionally there are deals for new petrol VRS under £19K tax paid on the net for police, Hm Forces, diplomats. So it really depends on your personal needs, I.e space required and if you want to really chuck it around twisty roads, traffic jams , weather and road conditions permitting.... and if you want to spend the extra dosh to get a more premium badge.

On the subject of the original post, the SE will appeal to new buyers, the additional performance gains seem meaningless to existing owners, unless they really need a diff. My MKIII corners better than the standard VRS MkII so it will suffice for my driving style and requirements.

 

Whilst a big fan of DSG, the Octy 3 gets the ten year old DSG boxes which is quoted as 2 mpg worse than the manual, I would struggle to get 400 miles out of a tankful it looks even with my long journeys and efficient driving.   Plus you have the costs of the DSG oil changes on the wet box.  I would rather have the 1.8 TSI DSG L&K, only half a second slower to 60 mph but more relaxed, comfortable and much greater range.  With its DSG it is 3 mpg better than the manual and 5.5 mpg better than the TSI DSG VRS. 

 

Had both in the Mk 2 Octys and found the 1.8 TSI, even at only 160 hp allegedly (but quicker than the diesel VRS on paper) nicer to drive than the Mk 2 TSI VRS. 

 

Might have a look at what I could get a L&K TSI, apparently they will chip to 260 hp, same EA888 engine but shorter stroke meaning it revs better but then I do not like any of the Skoda garages around me anymore now that Savilles have stopped doing Skodas and now do Renault, Dacia so it would be internet, CSMA (where I get my good warranty for the over 60K miles which cheap-stake Skoda only give 60K miles where many manufacturers now give 100K.  

Be interested to see where you can get a new vRS DSG for £21k

And how many of us are in the forces to take advantage of those prices?

Autotrader this am for £20,999 race blue DSG hatch at Lookers. The other internet deals are also for police and diplomats. My point being that along with Drive the Deal etc there are alternatives to paying full whack, which members on this site use to barter with dealers to achieve a more acceptable deal.

Autotrader this am for £20,999 race blue DSG hatch at Lookers. The other internet deals are also for police and diplomats. My point being that along with Drive the Deal etc there are alternatives to paying full whack, which members on this site use to barter with dealers to achieve a more acceptable deal.

I'm guessing Lookers selling via Autotrader won't be 'new', probably pre-reg at best?

I'm guessing Lookers selling via Autotrader won't be 'new', probably pre-reg at best?

64 Reg 1 mile. That's 8 miles less than mine when I picked it up. It's still cheaper than official book.