"salesman said VRs is coming due to demand an will be a 1.4 TDi 160 - 180PS, just can't help but think mk2 reliability issue de ja vue"

 

This would tempt me - but I reckon is 90% dealer hot air speak. Skoda seem happier sticking with Monte Carlo trim-only versions of their smaller cars these days and who can argue given the sales figures.

Until it gets officially announced - I would say every dealer is talking pap.. just trying to keep some people interested in the Skoda brand.. all of this stems from that Mk2 vRS didn't sell - and that's because of the shape of the Mk2 - styled like a brick, but with a vRS engine in it!?!? no sense whatsoever.. and that styling killed them - they don't want to be bitten twice, so that's why they are reluctant to do an Mk3 vRS so far.. it could be 3 years away.. their focus is on Monte Carlo and Greenline.. and rumours instead are flying of a 2 seater sports car in the near future.  That would pobably be better than vRS Mk3 at any rate..

1.4 tdi vrs........you have to love the dealer's audacity to spout that sort of rubbish face to face. Seriously where did he pluck this info from.

 

 

It will be a parts bin engine if it does happen and the obvious choice is the 1.8 Tsi from the Gti.

 

This continual requirement for it to be diesel is amazing as we are in a Petrol cycle currently. After all those years of Diesel getting the tech Petrol is now getting attention.  Especially as Diesel is not the longterm future of fuel with the change in thinking to how good it actually is.

 

More importantly i would rather know when they are releasing some REAL engines for the fabia, even a 150bhp ACT 1.4 would be a good start as the current line up is embarrassing.  

1.4 tdi vrs........you have to love the dealer's audacity to spout that sort of rubbish face to face. Seriously where did he pluck this info from.

 

 

It will be a parts bin engine if it does happen and the obvious choice is the 1.8 Tsi from the Gti.

 

This continual requirement for it to be diesel is amazing as we are in a Petrol cycle currently. After all those years of Diesel getting the tech Petrol is now getting attention.  Especially as Diesel is not the longterm future of fuel with the change in thinking to how good it actually is.

 

More importantly i would rather know when they are releasing some REAL engines for the fabia, even a 150bhp ACT 1.4 would be a good start as the current line up is embarrassing.  

 

Totally agree with this post and comments regarding petrol engines etc.

 

The ACT engine in a new Monte Carlo version would be an attractive package without being a full blown vRS which Skoda seem to be shying away from.

 

For me though, prices are just silly when up against more premium metal, and my staying with Skoda is looking less likely these days with the choice on offer.

I don't think diesels will die quite frankly until you get petrols returning 100+mpg on a regular basis.. but they are still behind diesels even with all the switching off a cylinder to save fuel.. and now with DPFs added to TDi, they've cleaned up a little bit more to help the environment.. the 2015 Bluemotion Polo 1.4TDi returns 108mpg in extra urban cycle.. and the Greenline Mk3 Fabia is expecting to be close to that figure.. and the Greenline will be diesel, not petrol.. so you can forget your 150bhp and ACT malarky.. it's not on Skoda's agenda..

skodaTDI,  

i keep reading posts where you are predicting what Skoda have up their sleeve in the future as they have to get sales moving on this 

latest Fabia, and use up Parts that are already in VWG cars that are not selling well.

 

? are you Derren Brown, or getting inside info, or making an educated guess?

 

Returns 108 mpg in EUC, really?  

That will be on the Rolling Road in the Temperature Controlled Building under the EU Testing i take it.

 That is pretty amazing if it was achievable on a road and should make them a very desirable car. 

 

http://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/2015-Volkswagen-Polo-TDI-SE-Review-059

 

As i understand it from Press Releases the Monte Carlo trim is available with any of the Engine choices.

?

Has anyone any Information on what the Spec of a 'Fabia Outdoor' will be. 

or want to make a guess at what Skoda will do to get sales moving on the New Fabia before the end of the year?

Edited 17 March, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

Just been to a Skoda dealer tonight to try and broker a deal on a new Fabia estate but couldn't get it pinned down. In talking, they're scheduled to bring out a special edition by September and the Monte Carlo spec is due out round about the same time.

They've not much room to manoeuvre at the minute as Skoda are trying to protect residuals on the early models but that's not to say offers won't filter down by Q3, the launch of the new model and March 15 reg coming out means Skoda have been holding back on giving discounts.

looks like I swapped my GLII at just about the right time then

Once they have the Production line ramped up and they are able to produce enough they will soon be dropping prices on UK 

cars as they need sales.

Just as they are having to do with the sales disaster that is the Rapid & Rapid Spaceback,  bring out a Sport Edition & a Connect,

as Skoda had to with the Monte Carlo Fabia when they were not shifting so 'Tech' editions were required to get the Quarter Sales moving.

 

the Mk2 Fabias were around 40% sales for Skoda in the UK each year until the Mk3 Octavia was launched.

& that was when Skoda was only selling under 70,000 cars a year in the UK.

Less than half Ford sell of just the Fiesta.

 

Skoda is not a big player for car sales in the UK, 

and i can see them trying to get Fleet Fabias out and about with Driving Schools, Hire Cars and Meter Readers etc instead of 

the Citigo,  yet another sales disaster, then there is the now discontinued Roomster.

 

Skoda might just be loosing the way with Small Family cars.

The all new Superb starting ay £18,500 really makes the second size up Skoda look very over priced in the UK.

skodaTDI,  

i keep reading posts where you are predicting what Skoda have up their sleeve in the future as they have to get sales moving on this 

latest Fabia, and use up Parts that are already in VWG cars that are not selling well.

 

? are you Derren Brown, or getting inside info, or making an educated guess?

 

Returns 108 mpg in EUC, really?  

That will be on the Rolling Road in the Temperature Controlled Building under the EU Testing i take it.

 That is pretty amazing if it was achievable on a road and should make them a very desirable car. 

 

http://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/2015-Volkswagen-Polo-TDI-SE-Review-059

 

As i understand it from Press Releases the Monte Carlo trim is available with any of the Engine choices.

?

Has anyone any Information on what the Spec of a 'Fabia Outdoor' will be. 

or want to make a guess at what Skoda will do to get sales moving on the New Fabia before the end of the year?

 

In response, Derren Brown I am not - he is rubbish and can't predict anything but the bleeding obvious..

 

The Bluemotion Polo 1.4 TDi is 108.6mpg as quoted by VW themselves.. not me.  The 1.4TDi SE and SEL is quoted as 91.1mpg on the extra urban - it is in print (see below).  I  am not listening to what the car reviewers print or say they got.. half of these road tests are complete rubbish and by people who tend to go and thrash the car around for a week whilst driving to and from work and say, "..oh well, we didn't get what they quote on mpg..".  Those journalists don't have time to actually conduct proper tests.

 

And yes I know all of these official figures are conducted on EU directive (93/116/EEC).. and are not as "real world" as they could be.

 

 

But yes I was very very tempted to get the Polo at 108mpg and not the Mk3 Fabia, but I wasn't waiting 6 months until they built the polo and shipped it from South Africa. Complete joke VW!  I also felt that 75PS was a little weedy to be honest, but if I didn't do all the motorway driving I do, I may have gone for it.. but would recommend it to someone else if they don't want to fill up every week.  It's a nicely built car, if you don't mind the wait.

you would be surprise how spritely the 75PS TDI is

 

I had the 3 cyl 1.2TDI, not the 1.4TDi which should be better 

 

I was satisfied with the performance of my GLII but I am not one for high power cars, more interested in economy and running costs than a car capable of warp speed

you would be surprise how spritely the 75PS TDI is

 

I had the 3 cyl 1.2TDI, not the 1.4TDi which should be better 

 

I was satisfied with the performance of my GLII but I am not one for high power cars, more interested in economy and running costs than a car capable of warp speed

 

I test drove a Mk3 1.2 TSi and wasn't overly impressed.. wasn't rubbish, but just didn't enthrall me to say yes.. my Mk1 TDi is 100bhp, so it takes the big hills in its stride.. most small cars fully loaded would baulk at some of the roads I've driven on.. so I wanted something similar and went for the 104bhp..

I test drove a Mk3 1.2 TSi and wasn't overly impressed.. wasn't rubbish, but just didn't enthrall me to say yes.. my Mk1 TDi is 100bhp, so it takes the big hills in its stride.. most small cars fully loaded would baulk at some of the roads I've driven on.. so I wanted something similar and went for the 104bhp..

question is, how many miles did the demo have on the clock?

 

when I test drove the Hyundai I was not impressed by the engine but was willing to accept it as a compromise

 

after nearly 400 miles the engine is not recognisable as the one I drove off, it is now much more capable, and still improving,

 

could it be you were seeing the same issue a tight engine which didn't do justice to what it was capable of?

I think it's just a case of you now being used to your i10.. I do 400+ miles a week, so I need something with a bit more punch.. I hate petrol engines now I'm a diesel convert the last 12.5 years.. I won't go back to petrol if someone paid me to.. so the TSi was never going to win my hard-earned cash.. each to their own though.

I think it's just a case of you now being used to your i10.. I do 400+ miles a week, so I need something with a bit more punch.. I hate petrol engines now I'm a diesel convert the last 12.5 years.. I won't go back to petrol if someone paid me to.. so the TSi was never going to win my hard-earned cash.. each to their own though.

I too would still love to drive a diesel but the £1500-£2000 premium for a diesel of the same power engine is not economical for me, as the difference in mpg don't make it economic to run a diesel purely on the cost per mile etc now

 

all the emission control kit does nothing to help either, so the choice seems to come down to does the torque curve and low down power compensate for the increase in cost

 

for me the choice seemed to be have a diesel and drop a trim level or have the trim level I want and compromise on the engine by going back to petrol

 

as to me getting used to the petrol, I have a nice mile long bridge on my regular route over a river and it is quite steep in both directions, when I first got the car if I set the cruise at 60mph it dropped about 13mph by the time I was at the crest, now it only drops 3-4 mph,

 

but yes I am getting more used to driving petrol again and the difference in the power curve of the engine and when is best to change gear etc, as with any new car it is a learning curve of how to get the best out of it

I came from years of driving mainly Peugeot diesels with a couple of Ford diesels as company cars, the 1.6 Ford Diesel engine is a Peugeot diesel made under licence and couldn't make the extra cost of a Diesel engine work now.

My TSI is a brilliant engine especially in 105 guise, I haven't driven the 86bhp version but whilst it may not have the outright torque of my old diesels, it more than makes up for it by being smoother, quieter and definitely quicker off the mark.

I'll be replacing it with a Fabia III SE TSI estate, most likely the 110 version but I'll drive both when the time comes and much prefer this petrol engine to my old diesels now.

Incidentally, I drove a mate's new Merc A220 CDI AMG with paddle shift 3 days ago and while it was a lovely gearbox, what stuck out the most was how quickly the diesel ran out of revs and how rough it sounded compared to my TSI, still a lovely car though.

Notice the latest Polo Bluemotion has a petrol option using the next generation 1.0 TSI with 95PS and a claimed 68.9 combined mpg. Wonder if it will make it to the next Fabia GeenLine  :wonder:

 

 

TP

Hello skoda fans.

 

What about 1.2 tsi abt tuning, 150ps, sport suspension? Nobody seems to mention this posibility. Waranty stays, cost is around 1500eu for upgrade. Probably the cheapest hot hatch? In germany for less than 12000eu, without options, dont know UK prices..

Hello skoda fans.

 

What about 1.2 tsi abt tuning, 150ps, sport suspension? Nobody seems to mention this posibility. Waranty stays, cost is around 1500eu for upgrade. Probably the cheapest hot hatch? In germany for less than 12000eu, without options, dont know UK prices..

So the original manufacturer warranty is unaffected? Sounds too good to be true. I suspect you are relying on an ABT warranty not a skoda one.

Just been to a Skoda dealer tonight to try and broker a deal on a new Fabia estate but couldn't get it pinned down. In talking, they're scheduled to bring out a special edition by September and the Monte Carlo spec is due out round about the same time.

They've not much room to manoeuvre at the minute as Skoda are trying to protect residuals on the early models but that's not to say offers won't filter down by Q3, the launch of the new model and March 15 reg coming out means Skoda have been holding back on giving discounts.

 

I got a decent chunk off a new DSG SE Est via Carwow and if you check Drive the Deal or UK Discounts you might be a bit surprised. 

Speaking as a long time confirmed diesel "nutt", I was astounded how diesel like the 1.2TSI was in its power delivery.

Torque like i could not hardly believe (and i had stepped out of a 1.9TDI too)

From a wee pip-squeak o a petrol.

I was convinced.

Simples.

Our next car will almost certainly be petrol, or perhaps petrol hybrid, after some 20+ years of diesel driving.

M

Speaking as a long time confirmed diesel "nutt", I was astounded how diesel like the 1.2TSI was in its power delivery.

Torque like i could not hardly believe (and i had stepped out of a 1.9TDI too)

From a wee pip-squeak o a petrol.

I was convinced.

Simples.

Our next car will almost certainly be petrol, or perhaps petrol hybrid, after some 20+ years of diesel driving.

M

Dito, except for the almost certainly-part. It will.

Petrol is the new diesel.

New diesels can still be the most recent Euro 6 Emission diesels and give economy where used for certain types of travelling.

 

But 50 Plus towards 80 mpg is of little cope if Regeneration and the likes more than double fuel consumption 

and the Average then comes to the same or worse than from a Petrol engine.

Speaking as a long time confirmed diesel "nutt", I was astounded how diesel like the 1.2TSI was in its power delivery.

Torque like i could not hardly believe (and i had stepped out of a 1.9TDI too)

From a wee pip-squeak o a petrol.

I was convinced.

Simples.

Our next car will almost certainly be petrol, or perhaps petrol hybrid, after some 20+ years of diesel driving.

M

 

Could not agree more. 

 

I drive a 981 Porsche Cayman normally. But, this week (we're on Holiday - dogs on board etc I've been driving around in my Wife's 2011 1.2 Tfsi (105) DSG

 

Obviously it does not handle or go like the Porsche, BUT I can tell you it's perfectly quick enough and the power delivery (other than the occasional DSG glitch) is impeccable. Not once have I thought the car lacks power, from almost any speed. These are cracking little engines.