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I am in two minds as to which new estate to buy.  It would be diesel and 4x4 - such a shame they don't do a petrol version, but I am more concerned whether to have DSG with paddles or stick with the manual version.  It would be the Elegence version.  I would value some suggestions.

 

Thanks

Stick with the manual. DSG gearboxes are awful.

(in my humble opinion of course, you will find most will disagree)

I am in two minds as to which new estate to buy. It would be diesel and 4x4 - such a shame they don't do a petrol version, but I am more concerned whether to have DSG with paddles or stick with the manual version. It would be the Elegence version. I would value some suggestions.

Thanks

They do a petrol, I have it. They just dont sell it everywhere

I have the DSG, and I love it. Dont have the paddles , but havent missed them either.

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Ah the good old manual versus auto debate, hang fire, let me go get some popcorn!

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On the other hand I suppose that there is some mileage in going for two wheel drive and fitting winter tyres as required.  Having tried a two wheel drive car with winter tyres , it was far more able in the snow than a 4 wheel drive with summer tyres.

I would have loved the DSG, but I chosed manual because I am afraid of the long term reliability on the DSG.

My understanding us that the Octavia estate in 4x4 form is only available in manual, with the only version with auto is the single spec scout

My understanding us that the Octavia estate in 4x4 form is only available in manual, with the only version with auto is the single spec scout

The Tsi and 184bhp diesel 4x4 is Dsg only(Im not 100% sure if the diesel is available with manual, but dont think so).

And 150bhp and 105 bhp diesel 4x4 is not available with Dsg.

Same as with the Scout if I recall correctly, apart from the 105bhp.

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Stick with the manual. DSG gearboxes are awful.

(in my humble opinion of course, you will find most will disagree)

Bit harsh :) I really like mine.

On the other hand I suppose that there is some mileage in going for two wheel drive and fitting winter tyres as required.  Having tried a two wheel drive car with winter tyres , it was far more able in the snow than a 4 wheel drive with summer tyres.

 

This or 4x4 plus winter tyres for maximum control!

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Thanks Warkman, it will teach me to read the brochure with a bit more concentration.  So it will be manual as I prefer the extra bits on the Elegance.  I was also interested in the fitted Sat Nav, I have only ever used a removable device before, it appears that there is an SD card with free updates for 3 years.

 

+1 for DSG

 

do lots of motorway miles regularly get low to mid 60's MPG with cruise set qt 70 wherever possible

A bit of balance possible on the DSG point, the DSG comes in 2 types the 7 speed and the 6 speed, 7 speed is for engines with less and the 6 speed for engines with more torque herein lies the issue.  The 7 speed marries a lot smoother to the lower torque but, quicker responding engines.  The 6 speed however IMHO, requires a different set of software to best benefit the diesel engines and can be comparision seem "meh"

The Tsi and 184bhp diesel 4x4 is Dsg only(Im not 100% sure if the diesel is available with manual, but dont think so).

And 150bhp and 105 bhp diesel 4x4 is not available with Dsg.

Same as with the Scout if I recall correctly, apart from the 105bhp.

Ah, in the UK, you can have DSG or 4X4 not both, apart from one Scout model.

Ah, in the UK, you can have DSG or 4X4 not both, apart from one Scout model.

Yeah you seem to lack most of the regular 4x4 versions. But they might not sell as good there?

Here over 40% of the sold Skodas are 4x4. Same goes for the other brands who offer 4x4 on the more normal models.

Just ordered mine.

Down here we get 3 choices - a manual diesel 103, then two higher outputs, one diesel and one petrol both with DSG.

Gone for the 132 Petrol with DSG, comes standard down here with premium pack and have added tech pack.

Compared with other (small 4x4) manual cars that I have owned & used , I find that the manual gear change on the Octavia 3 (4x4 Tdi 150hp) is a real delight .

 

The box is slick , fairly small travel and with the gear lever falling in just the right place for my build. I disliked the manual change on my previous car & would have preferred an auto version but the Skoda manual is a pleasure to use.

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The other question to consider is how much effect does the modification to EU6 have when compared to EU5.  All vehicles sold in the UK have to be EU6 after September.  The previous  2011 model, before the one we have now which is a 2013 build never seemed quite right regarding gear ratios.  You always seemed to need a gear lower than would seem normal

Just ordered mine.

Down here we get 3 choices - a manual diesel 103, then two higher outputs, one diesel and one petrol both with DSG.

Gone for the 132 Petrol with DSG, comes standard down here with premium pack and have added tech pack.

Enjoy! Im very pleased with mine :)

The other question to consider is how much effect does the modification to EU6 have when compared to EU5.  All vehicles sold in the UK have to be EU6 after September.  The previous  2011 model, before the one we have now which is a 2013 build never seemed quite right regarding gear ratios.  You always seemed to need a gear lower than would seem normal

Most of the changes to eU6, Beijing 6 and the other derivatives, U.S. A change where the catalyst sirs, getting closer to the hot end of the exhaust outlet (though of course, this means the engine bay gets warmer) eventually, all cars will have a urea tank to spray it into the exhausts to reduce the emissions, so you will be carrying a tanker....:-0

Had dsg in my old diesel and now the TSI I'll never EVER go back to a manual box again. Wading through the bloody gears in town traffic, tedium. If I want to change gear quicker I just over ride it with the paddles. TBH I don't really bother doing that unless I am feeling like a boy racer.

This may just be my ignorance, but surely if you're driving like a boy racer, you'll want to be holding onto the gears longer rather than changing up sooner? Can you do that with the paddles?

This may just be my ignorance, but surely if you're driving like a boy racer, you'll want to be holding onto the gears longer rather than changing up sooner? Can you do that with the paddles?

Get on a rolling road and find your torqe band, you'll be surprized how "holding" them gears hurts your va va vooooom.

This may just be my ignorance, but surely if you're driving like a boy racer, you'll want to be holding onto the gears longer rather than changing up sooner? Can you do that with the paddles?

When in manual it wont change by it self untill you hit the rev limit.

Cool, thanks for the clarifications :)

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