3C8035730E - missing icons on maxidot

[Nathanio]

Hi Guys, 

 

Fitted a new 3C8035730E module to my car to replace a very old 5K0 module as my HFP modules gone into the wives fabia. Working really well with the WiFi AP setup and hotspot working. 

 

I have noticed that the maxidot has some missing icons and showing underscores instead:

 

 

How do I go about correcting this? Everything else (inc voice control) works correctly. 

 

Thanks

[adamal]

I wonder if they are unsupported graphics on these newer modules? RainbowFire (Alex) has just fitted this module to a pre FL Octy (which works courtesy of a polar FIS). Might be worth asking him if he has the same? I don't on my 08 Octavia but then I only have the D revision.

[RainbowFire]

I hear someone mention my name? Nothing good I hope

 

Seriously (for a change) my display is complete, no issues. I am using a PolarFIS Advanced (PF03), not just for getting the bluetooth working, but becuase there's a load of shiney shiney stuff that happens too. :) (Nothing, I mean nothing, has enough toys to play with.) Mine's a 07 plate, so even older than Adam's

 

Adam, that looks like a BAP MaxiDot anyway (not the old skool DDP), so I'm not sure what compatilbility issues there could be. :S :S

 

Nathanio, is everything ok if you unplug the bluetooth unit?

[Nathanio]

Good shout. I think its the 3G icon, media player, battery and wifi from what I can tell. 

 

I'll also do a scan with Carista

[Nathanio]

I hear someone mention my name? Nothing good I hope

 

Seriously (for a change) my display is complete, no issues. I am using a PolarFIS Advanced (PF03), not just for getting the bluetooth working, but becuase there's a load of shiney shiney stuff that happens too. :) (Nothing, I mean nothing, has enough toys to play with.) Mine's a 07 plate, so even older than Adam's

 

Adam, that looks like a BAP MaxiDot anyway (not the old skool DDP), so I'm not sure what compatilbility issues there could be. :S :S

 

Nathanio, is everything ok if you unplug the bluetooth unit?

 

Sure is, when I had the previous non rSAP unit in it displayed all the correct symbols. The only symbol it struggled with was the Roaming symbol when I lost 3s 3G signal and went to orange 2G

[adamal]

My point wondering if the new unit uses different graphics not supported by the older maxidot not so much the ddp/bap thing. But it seems not if Alex's older maxidot handles them. Still seems to be graphics related so I wonder if a factory reset will help?

[Nathanio]

My point wondering if the new unit uses different graphics not supported by the older maxidot not so much the ddp/bap thing. But it seems not if Alex's older maxidot handles them. Still seems to be graphics related so I wonder if a factory reset will help?

On the module? It was brand new and still sealed (£90 delivered from Poland)

[RainbowFire]

DOA is not unknown.

[adamal]

Incorrectly coded could also be the case. It can be reset via the headunit usually.

[Nathanio]

Coming back to this. I have just corrected the coding on VCDS as  it didn't have a workshop code in the coding. This has cleared an error I had on there but still no icons. 

 

Is there any settings in the instrument section that might control this?

 

Thanks

[langers2k]

It's down to the cluster software, it doesn't have the icons that are used by newer BT modules.

 

If you're lucky, there might be an update as there is for some Octavia clusters. Got a full autoscan?

[Nathanio]

I have but I'll need to get it off the other laptop. I'll grab it tomorrow.

[langers2k]

Done a little more digging and at a guess probably has 3T2920841B running SW 0106. At least based off it being a '58 Plate Superb 1.8 TSI Elegance'.

 

If that's the case there is no obvious update for your cluster. There are reports that SW 01xx clusters can be updated to SW 0305 but I've never seen a flash file for it so I wouldn't put too much trust in these... Nor do I know if SW 03xx has the icons.

 

I think SW 04xx upwards should have the icons included and if not a cluster running SW 04xx can be updated to SW 06xx which definitely has the correct icons.

[Nathanio]

Thanks for the looking around. Here is the autoscan data:

Thursday,28,January,2016,08:37:18:35773

VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64

VCDS Version: 15.7.3.0 (x64)

Data version: 20151216

www.Ross-Tech.com

Mileage: 149570km-92938mi Repair Order: 2016-01-28 AutoScan

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Chassis Type: 3T (1K0)

Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 36 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72

77

VIN: TMBBB73T199014760 Mileage: 149570km-92938miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000

10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000

37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 01: Engine ( ) Labels: 06J-907-115-BZB.clb

Part No SW: 3T0 907 115 HW: 1Z0 907 115 B

Component: 1.8l R4/4V TFSI 0030

Revision: A2H12--- Serial number:

Coding: 0203000318070160

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 6ED3A9D3791CB84E93-803A

No fault code found.

Readiness: 0000 0100

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl

Part No SW: 3T0 907 379 A HW: 3T0 907 379 A

Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102

Revision: 00H11001

Coding: 0004738

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 3B7550877AEE1DE664-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb

Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 N HW: 3T0 907 044 N

Component: Climatronic 122 0102

Revision: 00003001

Coding: 0000000000

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001

ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK12.rod

VCID: 3D715E9FACFA13D65A-8068

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb

Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 A HW: 1K0 937 087 A

Component: BCM PQ35 H+ 020 0358

Revision: 00020000

Coding: 48990AB8F873F1C040080084310089A403F91BAE63308D605C4040000000

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 2F6D74D77E96F146D8-807A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T2 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB

Component: Wischer 26080 22 0602

Coding: 00D7B7

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB

Component: RLS 090908 05 54 0402

Coding: 0730ED

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171

Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0104

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D

Component: LIN BACKUP HO H08 9001

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels: 1T0-919-475.clb

Part No SW: 3T0 919 475 HW: 3T0 919 475

Component: PARKHILFE PLA H07 0002

Revision: -------- Serial number: 66430823903237

Coding: 001004

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 7AFB9583F554E4EE3F-802E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 15: Airbags Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl

Part No SW: 3T0 959 655 HW: 3T0 959 655

Component: J234__LAJ VW10 HI 1815

Revision: 17013000 Serial number: 003CCPHKDH7/

Coding: 0016714

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 7EF39993297CC8CE03-802A

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6333FTS606282318

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6343FTS600283402

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6353ETS6F35KUVNP

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6363ETS6N73LUVNP

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6373JTS62J0MUVNH

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD HW: 1K0 953 549 CD

Component: J0527 055 0111

Coding: 0000731

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 76E381B3014C808E5B-8022

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T0 959 537 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB

Component: E221__MFL-URO H06 0009

Coding: 00000130

Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb

Part No SW: 3T2 920 940 B HW: 3T2 920 940 B

Component: KOMBI H28 0024

Serial number: 00000000000000

Coding: 410F00

Shop #: WSC 35703 895 09999

ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04020

ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod

VCID: 336578A79ABED5A6BC-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb

Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951

Component: J533__Gateway H16 0202

Revision: H16 Serial number: 2700K08825010B

Coding: E9A1FF064006023303

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 356146BF5CCACB9692-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb

Part No SW: 3T2 920 940 B HW: 3T2 920 940 B

Component: IMMO H28 0024

Serial number: 00000000000000

ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03002

ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod

VCID: 336578A79ABED5A6BC-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl

Part No SW: 3C8 959 760 HW: 3C8 959 760

Component: J810 0801

Revision: 00002000 Serial number: 00000000000000

Coding: 0000003

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

VCID: 72EBBDA36D249CAE77-8026

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb

Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 A HW: 3T0 035 680

Component: RNS-MID H03 1304

Revision: AB001001 Serial number: SKZ6Z7H8249118

Coding: 040004000004008300

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 2E5369D3799CF84ED3-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 7N0-959-793.clb

Part No SW: 7N0 959 793 A HW: 7N0 959 793 A

Component: TSG FA H03 0190

Revision: Serial number: 0000100206781

Coding: 011D0220DE01121002

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 408F276BD3087E3E31-8014

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb

Part No: 1K0 909 144 C

Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 194 2301

Revision: 00H15000

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 2A5B65C38574946E0F-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 7N0-959-792.clb

Part No SW: 7N0 959 792 A HW: 7N0 959 792 A

Component: TSG BF H03 0190

Revision: Serial number: 0000100194921

Coding: 011D0220DE01121002

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 3F8D2497AEF601C648-806A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl

Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C HW: 5M0 907 357 C

Component: AFS-Steuergeraet 0133

Revision: 00H04000 Serial number:

Coding: 1377095

Shop #: WSC 53092 001 1048576

VCID: 34677BBB57B0D29EA5-8060

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB

Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l 0004

Coding: 00000021

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB

Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r S004

Coding: 00000021

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb

Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 A HW: 3T0 035 680

Component: RNS-MID H03 1304

Revision: AB001001 Serial number: SKZ6Z7H8249118

Coding: 040004000004008300

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 2E5369D3799CF84ED3-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels: 7N0-959-795.clb

Part No SW: 7N0 959 795 HW: 7N0 959 795

Component: TSG HL H02 0190

Revision: Serial number: 0000100233354

Coding: 010C00200001221002

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 0109E26F9882B7367E-8054

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels: 7N0-959-794.clb

Part No SW: 7N0 959 794 HW: 7N0 959 795

Component: TSG HR H02 0190

Revision: Serial number: 0000100218014

Coding: 010C00200001221002

Shop #: WSC 35110 377 09999

VCID: 55A1E63F3C8AEB9672-8000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 3C8-035-730-A.clb

Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 E HW: 3C8 035 730 E

Component: Telefon 025 0983

Revision: -------- Serial number: 35502105232301

Coding: 020000000100010000000101

Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200

ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709

ROD: EV_UHVPremi_SE36.rod

VCID: 254196FF246ABB1622-8070

1 Fault Found:

9457427 - Left audio channel for speech/telephone

B104F 13 [009] - Short to GND

Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00000001

Fault Priority: 4

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 220

Mileage: 149527 km

Date: 2016.01.28

Time: 07:25:47

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:36)--------------------------

Edited 28 January, 2016 by john999boy
Details removed

[RainbowFire]

Please edit and remove the VIN from the posting

[langers2k]

There aren't any updates that I can see for the clusters you have I'm afraid. The only was that you're likely to sort them is to replace the clusters which is probably too much hassle with the immobiliser and odometer.

 

RainbowFire, any reason not to post the VIN? They are hardly secret as anyone walking past the car can get them...

[Nathanio]

I can't edit the post so it's there unless a mod can remove it.

 

Thanks langers. Looks like I shall be living with it then

[RainbowFire]

There aren't any updates that I can see for the clusters you have I'm afraid. The only was that you're likely to sort them is to replace the clusters which is probably too much hassle with the immobiliser and odometer.

 

RainbowFire, any reason not to post the VIN? They are hardly secret as anyone walking past the car can get them...

 

I don't know the source, but it has always been said not to put VIN's up as part of a scan. Could be group paranoia, could be a legit reason......am only passing on what we've been told in the past.

[RainbowFire]

RainbowFire, any reason not to post the VIN? They are hardly secret as anyone walking past the car can get them...

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/386425-vcds-scans-vins/?p=4512041

[Spacewalker]

cluster  SW is too old to support  latest BT module

Know that issue for a while