Hi all

Just hoping to get some advice /thoughts on when to take our Yeti (Outdoor 2.0 tdi) in for its first service.

Dealer recommendation is at 15,000 kms, but I've spoken to a couple of people who have suggested halving that (at least for an interim oil change).

We've already clicked over 7000 kms in the first 4 months (and still loving it).

Any thoughts?

Skoda do love their servicing but it always appears to be a good idea to over service. In the UK there are plenty of Skoda Taxis with stellar mileages on and the ones I've asked stick to the 10,000 mile interval (probably to keep their unlimited warranty) . From my experience the full service does not include much more than a oil change anyway.

What does the car say regarding when it wants a service?
It's on the MaxiDOT under Settings - Service - Info.

How much does Skoda charge for Oil & Filter change only???

Or

You could puchase a Genuine Audi/VW/Skoda - Oil Filter - 03L115562 - 1.6 & 2.0 Common Rail TDI

( 331297124623 ) £6

 

Plus

Comma Prolife 5w30 Synthetic Motor Oil 5L VW 504 00, VW 507 00; MB 229.51; BMW L

( 271880853961 ) @ £25

 

Goto your Local garage & ask them to change it for you, if you cant do it.

Keep all recipts for proof with mileage & date. 

 

How much does Skoda charge for Oil & Filter change only???

Or

You could puchase a Genuine Audi/VW/Skoda - Oil Filter - 03L115562 - 1.6 & 2.0 Common Rail TDI

( 331297124623 ) £6

 

Plus

Comma Prolife 5w30 Synthetic Motor Oil 5L VW 504 00, VW 507 00; MB 229.51; BMW L

( 271880853961 ) @ £25

 

Goto your Local garage & ask them to change it for you, if you cant do it.

Keep all recipts for proof with mileage & date. 

 

Would doing this give Skoda some wiggle room in a possible future warranty claim. They could say its the wrong oil or incorrectly put in or something like that.

 

Remember no good dead goes unpunished

Would doing this give Skoda some wiggle room in a possible future warranty claim. They could say its the wrong oil or incorrectly put in or something like that.

 

Remember no good dead goes unpunished

Indeed. It looks like it may not be formally approved by VW for 504 00/507 00 - their data sheet says "Recommended by Comma for applications requiring: VW 504 00, VW 507 00....". If you use a non-approved oil, this could lead to avoidance of warranty claims in the future.

So is it the case that if you prefer to supply your own 507 spec brand for their service division to use, it would be rejected?

I've never had that experience before.

No, you should be able to supply your own oil, but to maintain the warranty it must be approved by VW. Many are... these carry the formal VW 504 00/507 00 approval. This means that it is on VW's own list of oils they have validated and approved.

If it states on the container "VW 504 00/507 00 approved" but it's NOT on VW's list of 'approved' oils it would be false advertising surely?

What does the car say regarding when it wants a service?

It's on the MaxiDOT under Settings - Service - Info.

Unable to check at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it reflects the 15,000 recommendation from the dealer.

We'll definitely be getting it done at 15k, but just torn as to the value of doing an interim service around now (ie 7-8000 kms).

Firstly don't base your decision on the colour of the oil when you dip it.

Have faith, it'll be ok with normal servicing ...after all they make money out of servicing eg Honda out here 10K(km)/6 months....a nice little earner!

Edited 1 June, 201511 yr by Ryeman

If it states on the container "VW 504 00/507 00 approved" but it's NOT on VW's list of 'approved' oils it would be false advertising surely?

Yes, it would, and VW would have the right to sanction the supplier. But the oil stated does not say "VW 504 00/507 00 approved". The way it is written implies that the supplier has made a judgement that it can meet 504 00/507 00 standards, but they haven't done the formal approval.

^^^so you say 'meets' does not mean approved.

I've never know a service division not use oils I've provided.

If it states on the container "VW 504 00/507 00 approved" but it's NOT on VW's list of 'approved' oils it would be false advertising surely?

Save a few pounds and earn yourself a possible law suit against an oil vendor?

If it states on the container "VW 504 00/507 00 approved" but it's NOT on VW's list of 'approved' oils it would be false advertising surely?

It states ""Recommended by Comma for applications requiring: VW 504 00, VW 507 00""

Which is a lot different from having VW approval.

It states ""Recommended by Comma for applications requiring: VW 504 00, VW 507 00""

Which is a lot different from having VW approval.

 

Exactly.  It's the difference between VW saying it's approved and Comma saying it'll be fine.

Exactly.  It's the difference between VW saying it's approved and Comma saying it'll be fine.

VAG aren't always obliging on Warranty claims, how do the forum find Comma's warranty claims record?

VAG aren't always obliging on Warranty claims, how do the forum find Comma's warranty claims record?

Unless the user can prove they had been using that Comma oil and no other then the warranty claim against Comma will zero.

Why lay yourself open to the problem of using non approved parts for the sake of a few pounds?

Some like to do an intermediate oil change and if they can't buy 'professional' because it's only available through service divisions, and they use AND supply Castrol or Mobil, it could void their warranty.?!

VW have enough pr problems, from past experiences, to not want to push their arrogance that far, I'd be thinking.

Edited 2 June, 201511 yr by Ryeman

No. There are plenty of oils you can buy through retail outlets, online etc that are formally approved by VW and therefore would protect your warranty. You don't have to use "professional" oils, just any oil that has a formal VW approval. The statement on the oil's label or data sheet should tell you this. Castrol and Mobil oils will, I am certain, always be legitimate. As will oils from many other brands.

Out here Castrol Professional is available only through the trade.

So, are you saying 'approved' is ok BUT

'meets' is not?

I've never heard of any objection to either description.

In the EU there are Laws on Restrictive Practices.

Which is why you do not have to use a Manufacturers Franchised Main Dealer to Service your Vehicle.

The Warranty Provider can say', VAT Registered Businesses using OEM / Genuine Service & Replacement Parts for Servicing in the UK

to keep a Manufacturers Warranty Valid.

 

VWG , ie Skoda, VW, Audi, Seat can give the Oil Spec for Engines, and you would be daft not to follow that,

You need to use the correct specification of oil to suit your engine, cars use, location and envirinment,

but as to the Recommended OIls. Fluids, Brands, like say Castrol / Quantum, they are Recommended, but Requiring you to use these Brands or the Warranty would be 'Restrictive Practices', and that would land the Volkswagen Group in plenty of trouble.

 

Castrol / Quantum is the Recommended Brands, it has a Premium Price,

there are better oils, and not necessarily more expensive to purchase.

Out here Castrol Professional is the preferred method of increasing your profit margin it seems.

The key thing is to use approved specification oil and o/e parts to maintain warranty cover using a VAG dealership may matter if you seek an out of warranty goodwill claim. If you have work done within the dealer net then they cannot argue if you go outside they are entitled to look at the receipts/records to satisfy themselves that you have followed the rules-if you have fine if you haven't then you may not be. If an oil manufacturer or re-seller most often doesn't bother to submit their oil for approval may they have cut any other corners? If you are sure they haven't fine -take your chances -if you are on annual servicing how much a year can you save by not paying for approved oil-if it matters that much do it but it seems to me to be a penny pinching and potentially very slight cash saving-wouldn't it be cheaper to buy second hand out of warranty transport? If you feel outraged by the notion of being part of the market for profit making capitalism I would have recommended east Germany or Cuba, no wait that's gone too. Try North Korea?

Out here Castrol Professional is available only through the trade.

So, are you saying 'approved' is ok BUT

'meets' is not?

I've never heard of any objection to either description.

Each OEM has a specific requirement on how their specification approval is presented on the labels. Some use the word "meets", some say "approval", some just have the alpha-numeric spec code.

The point is in how it is presented. If an oil is stated to have a VW approval (for example the VW approval is listed in the "approvals" section) then this implies it is formally approved. If it says something like "meets the performance requirements of ....." then this implies that the supplier has made a judgement but it is not formally approved. VW dealers have access to a live database of formally approved oils, which changes regularly. If it came to the finer points of an engine warranty claim, these details will be important.

And again, there is no compulsion to use Castrol Professional oils. By all means do, but if you want to choose something else, then do so. As I said earlier, you have a choice of using the OEM recommended one (in this case Castrol Professional) or any of the other approved ones. If you are out of warranty (or are less bothered about such things) you can use whatever oil you like. But don't expect any goodwill support from Skoda. Just like if you used pattern parts or non-standard ones.