Hi guys, first time posting here really despite hovering in and out for quite a while!
 

 

I'm about to pull the trigger on a new Yeti but can't try the exact model due to the 150 diesel being a new incarnation. I did test drive a 170 DSG Monte Carlo yesterday as it was the closest I could get and liked it a lot. I actually was thinking of going with a Qashqai (garages on same plot in Swindon ) but the lack of any power in the price band I'm looking at meant it would be too much of a drop from my current 170 TDi Seat Exeo estate.

 

 

So I'm basically wondering if anyone's actually had a go in the 150? How it drives, feels, sounds etc. I'd imagine it's not far from my 170 as they're basically the same but I've always found the 170 rather peaky and "un-diesel-like", a little thrashy almost, preferring the thought of the 140 being a little more refined with all it's shove coming lower down (never driven one though), a bit like the old 80's 8v Golf GTi being preferred to the more powerful 16v I guess! 

 

I'm also not sure but I presume the DSG gear ratios are the same regardless? Something disappointing with my Exeo was that in the manual version my 170 is considered a "Sport" model so has a closer ratio box - 70mph @ 2000rpm in 6th vs the 140 diesel which does 80mph @2000rpm in 6th! A little ridiculous with a diesel I think and as most of my driving is dual-carriageway commute it hits my economy a bit too! I noticed the 170 Yeti did the same 70 @ 2000rpm as well on the test drive.

 

I guess I'm basically hoping the 150 does much of what the 170 does with a little more refinement. Adblu does seem to be a pain though!

 

 

For anyone interested I think the deal I've found is pretty great - 150 DSG 4x4 L&K, pure lease (not PCP - I'd prefer to pay less and save a deposit for next car as I go than the randomness of what's left at the end of PCP terms) - £179.97 per month over 24 months with £1619.73 (9 months) initial payment and a £60 admin fee based on 10k miles per annum. I don't think I've found any other deals on any other cars which come close with "bang for your buck". 

 

It's just a shame the lower spec models cost more to lease oddly! I'd prefer to avoid the pretty gross (in pics) brown leather and I'm not 100% convinced of the alloys vs the Matterhorns! But I can't really complain at the price, I will be paying an extra £9.38 per month for Jungle green over white though!

 

 

 

Cheers for any help or advice, I realise I've waffled a lot, it's the problem with first posts when you've been thinking about something for a long time!

we had a 170 2011 Yeti Elegance, then traded it for a 140 Elegance yeti, and after 3 months of driving i can say i do miss the higher power of the 170, there is a definite difference when you give it the beans, day to day you dont notice the power difference too much, but when you need that extra "kick" its just not there on the 140 sadly, i do wish we'd gone 170 again but you live and learn etc.

Have a read of my VW Passat review...

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/340608-later-this-week/

So I'm basically wondering if anyone's actually had a go in the 150? How it drives, feels, sounds etc. I'd imagine it's not far from my 170 as they're basically the same but I've always found the 170 rather peaky and "un-diesel-like", a little thrashy almost, 

 

I guess I'm basically hoping the 150 does much of what the 170 does with a little more refinement. Adblu does seem to be a pain though!

 

I assume it’s the same engine as in the new Superb?

 

Drove a 150 DSG MKIII Superb a few weeks ago: quiet, refined, powerful enough .... but it was a bit rattly towards the top end of the revs (just before the DSG changed up when 'pressing on’)

 

The adblue is certainly a BIG compromise on the Yeti though, I mean how hard would it have been to put the filler next to the diesel cap?? 

Cheers guys, from what I can see with the old 140 vs the new 150 there isn't a great deal in it but the 150 does look to deliver its power a little earlier and smoother, would probably feel a little stronger to accelerate. I must admit I preferred the 170 DSG to my manual but alas it's not an option now!

 

140:

http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/curves/VW20TDiCR140PS.pdf

 

150:

http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/curves/20tdi150PSflash.pdf

 

170:

http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/curves/VAG20TDiCR170ps.pdf

 

 

Scales are slightly off sadly so direct comparison not as easy. 

 

I could of course look for a more recent design car as the Yeti will be replaced fairly soon but it does most things so well, even fits my golf clubs with the seat slid a little. The Qashqai was actually very nice in N-Tec+ guise but similar pricing limits me to the 110 diesel which was just a touch weak. I can't see any one car out at the moment that really ticks all the boxes. All the women I know seem the think the Yeti looks like a van/hearse though, I think they have poor taste!

I assume it’s the same engine as in the new Superb?

 

Drove a 150 DSG MKIII Superb a few weeks ago: quiet, refined, powerful enough .... but it was a bit rattly towards the top end of the revs (just before the DSG changed up when 'pressing on’)

 

The adblue is certainly a BIG compromise on the Yeti though, I mean how hard would it have been to put the filler next to the diesel cap?? 

 

Yeah I'm sure it's the same engine, I think all the VW diesels are a little "meh", a bit bland really (the boss's new 3.0d BMW 5-Series is lovely! ). But most other new affordable crossover-type cars seem to be being fitted with ever lower powered engines sadly. The adblue thing is bugging, knowing it's a stopgap measure that probably won't exist a year or two from now is frustrating!

Don’t kid yourself on the adblue not going to be around for a bit, trucks have been using it for years!

Don’t kid yourself on the adblue not going to be around for a bit, trucks have been using it for years!

 

Yeah, I think half the cars out at the moment that are using it seem to be on the borderline of the emissions regs though - ie. 2wd models not needing it but 4wd models do. Many engines like the BMW ones, even with larger capacity don't need it so there are ways around it. With trucks the need for refinement and usability probably isn't as crucial, I expect car manufacturers will figure out how to get the emissions low enough not to require it or indeed keep improving the petrol models as they have been to render diesel an evermore unattractive option! The governments all seem to be turning against it for sure.

Had a go in a new Golf MK7 Gt the other day with the 150ps 1.4 Tsi Act engine. Very quiet, fast and pulled strongly but didn't feel as urgent as the diesel. Also the fuel consumption would most likely be in the 40's compared with the upper 50's in the diesel even with the cylinder deactivation. No DPF or cambelt issues though!.... :|

Had a go in a new Golf MK7 Gt the other day with the 150ps 1.4 Tsi Act engine. Very quiet, fast and pulled strongly but didn't feel as urgent as the diesel. Also the fuel consumption would most likely be in the 40's compared with the upper 50's in the diesel even with the cylinder deactivation. No DPF or cambelt issues though!.... :|

What's to stop it having cambelt issues?

I believe it has a life-time cambelt.....

What, like the sealed for life gear-boxes in I think SAABs?

 

Which if you don't change the oil tend to fail!

Edited 13 September, 201510 yr by VAGCF

I guess even with a lifetime cambelt you'll probably need a water pump replacement but it looks like to me that the ACT engine has 2 drive belts...

Here is a pic, it has a separate belt for the ancillaries far more sensible and a life time belt for the cam. sorry this is a bit off topic as I'm not sure this engine is available in a Yeti...still might be of interest... :|

 

I guess even with a lifetime cambelt you'll probably need a water pump replacement but it looks like to me that the ACT engine has 2 drive belts...

Most if not all have a V poly belt to run the alternator and air-con compressor etc. and a toothed belt to run the cams.

I think the two toothed timing belts are one on the front of the engine for the exhaust cam and one on the back for the inlet cam. I guess this lessens the load on the toothed belt leading to greater life but could be completely wrong. It's a good job that the will last the life of the engine because replacing two toothed belts every 40k could be expensive.

I think the two toothed timing belts are one on the front of the engine for the exhaust cam and one on the back for the inlet cam. I guess this lessens the load on the toothed belt leading to greater life but could be completely wrong

Usually when there are two cam belts a long belt drives one cam and a short belt couples the two cams together so the larger belt is still taking the stress of driving both cams.

I bought my Yeti 2.0 TDI CR Elegance (170bhp) about a month ago. Before I bought it, I test drove the 170 and 150 bhp version back to back, along the same roads. It seemed to me the 170 was much more perky and had much more go in it, with the book acceleration figures confirming the difference of about 8.3 and 9.1 seconds respectively. But I must add the 170 vehicle had done 17,000 miles so was fully run in; and the 150 model was a demonstrator with only about 1000 miles on the clock

I bought my Yeti 2.0 TDI CR Elegance (170bhp) about a month ago. Before I bought it, I test drove the 170 and 150 bhp version back to back, along the same roads. It seemed to me the 170 was much more perky and had much more go in it, with the book acceleration figures confirming the difference of about 8.3 and 9.1 seconds respectively. But I must add the 170 vehicle had done 17,000 miles so was fully run in; and the 150 model was a demonstrator with only about 1000 miles on the clock

 

Sorry, but 0.8 of a second difference? I don't think you would notice it!!

Briskodian, why not try both vehicles yourself and see what you think??

Briskodian, why not try both vehicles yourself and see what you think??

 

We are ALL Briskodians! Who do you mean?

 

A person's forum name is on the left in the light grey band at the top of each entry. For example, you are "paulfjr" and I'm "Llanigraham"

Apologies Llanigraham, I was suggesting you try both vehicles yourself and see what you think?

Thanks for the input guys, interesting to hear you (Paul) found the 170 more sprightly! The torque is pretty close but the 170 seems to come to life a bit more at higher revs where the 150 does it's best work low down - I expect that feels a lot more punchy when you're revving through the gears!

 

I've provisionally started to go through the order credit check process so on the path to owning it! Hopefully in isolation the 150 won't feel too dull!

Edited 14 September, 201510 yr by Jimrod

Apologies Llanigraham, I was suggesting you try both vehicles yourself and see what you think?

 

I currently drive the 140 4x4 and when I replace it, it will (probably) be with the 150 4x4. Probably won't even bother going for a test drive since I know it will be adequate for my needs. I gave up performance car driving long ago.

 

As for the 0.8 second difference in 0 - 60 times, they are meaningless to the majority of users. Very few people actually use that type of acceleration and, as said previously, most people couldn't measure 0.8 seconds. To be honest I am much more interested in the 40 to 60 time as that is what I seem to use more than anything, and in 4th the 140 is more than adequate, and can easily embarrass other cars. 

Sorry, but 0.8 of a second difference? I don't think you would notice it!!

you do though, honestly i know the figures seem to suggest you wouldnt, but you really do, similar at 50/60 mph if your cruising in 6th and plant it in the 170 it responds instantly and you're off, the 140 has more gradual increase, its not lag, its just not as swift off the mark.