http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-34615274

If crossing the bridge over this weekend or next or the 3rd weekend, or just travelling in the area of at the north or south,

best check what is happening with single lanes in each direction on the bridge, and closures on roads to the south.(A90, B800 Bridge demolition.)

maybe worth staying well clear and heading towards the routes up the Forth to the west.

http://trafficscotland.org/news/story.aspx?id=13063

http://trafficscotland.org

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34444427

 

Local newspapers & media have articles on the Closures.

Edited 2 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

Be aware that there is still disruption this weekend if heading that way.

Is it still free to get into Fife and £20 to let you back out?

The tolls were all abolished in 2007 but they were never that high (and they were to get into Fife)

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I think Brian was jesting, 

but there was a risk of Dicky Turpin (a Fly Fifer) holding you up North of the Forth.

 

Going towards Perth by Clackmannanshire Bridge and Crook Of Devon is rather nice,

i had forgotten just how nice.

Fife is rather beautiful.

Best Avoid using the Forth Road bridge route today if heading South. (North as well.)

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34980905

Edited 2 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

I think Brian was jesting, 

but there was a risk of Dicky Turpin (a Fly Fifer) holding you up North of the Forth.

 

Going towards Perth by Clackmannanshire Bridge and Crook Of Devon is rather nice,

i had forgotten just how nice.

Fife is rather beautiful.

That's not Fife, that's Clackmannanshire and Perth&kinross.

Doh, my bad,

Very true & nice & the views are still lovely,

and the roads and the views as i point towards Fife /Lomond Hills. just before i stop at Micky D's.

 

Avoiding like the plaque right now anyway until next week when no choice in the matter.

Edited 3 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

Bridge has to close completely from tonight just reported on the news.

Maybe 24 hours.

 

EDIT.  Major hassle.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35001277

Edited 3 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

'11 mile tailback on alternative route'.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35001277

Just had an update from the BBC: to be closed until the new year due to the discovery of 'defective steelwork'.

Doesn't affect me but I imagine a lot of you are sitting in a lot of traffic due to it? [emoji29]

JRJG

It don't effect me, but next question is causation.

 

Defective construction materials or damage caused by recent winds ?

 

The latter could be a really big job and may have implications for the new bridge.

 

 

Nick

Edited 4 December, 201510 yr by Clunkclick

The New Bridge the 'Queensferry Crossing'  is under construction because the Forth Road Bridge was reaching end of life and there is corrosion in the cables that they have been trying to control. and the other faults they were monitoring,

It was planned the Current Bridge would only carry reduced traffic when the new one is opened.

 

It is just as well the Scottish Government did go ahead with the Building of the new bridge when the opposition parties were against it, 

wanted a tunnel etc.

 

It is going to be chaos though until the new bridge is finished.

 

Edited 4 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

It's going to be shut until the new year.  Or, more likely, until the new bridge opens.

Nasty one this.

 

11 mile tailbacks onto the alternative bridge.

 

Queues in Perth as the traffic shifts from the M90 to the A9

Did I miss the latest referendum, have Scotland gone independant and are now closing the borders!?

 

Why build a wall, just shut the bridge 

I think Silver needs a geography lesson!!  

It was tongue-in-cheek Graham 

  Which is why I also put a laughing smilie at the end. 

Forth rail bridge opened 1890 still serviceable. Many of Bridges that Brunel built are still in daily use.

Forth road bridge built 1964 is at the end of is life.

Looks like those Victorian engineers knew their stuff.

I'm far from an expert but from my brief research the reason it's knackard is due to massively exceeding the load it was designed for, it was expected to carry 30k a day (I think) or which has been exceeded consistently for a while.

Maybe not all Victoria Engineers knew their stuff.

http://taybridgedisaster.co.uk

 

See Sir Thomas Bouch.

Tay Bridge & Forth Bridge.

Edited 5 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

Maybe not all Victoria Engineers knew their stuff.

http://taybridgedisaster.co.uk

 

See Sir Thomas Bouch.

Tay Bridge & Forth Bridge.

The Victorians were at the forefront of building bridges with Iron and steel, so I'm sure some mistakes were made. My point was that when they did get it right their bridges lasted.

Built in 1937 the Golden Gate bridge has a life expectancy of 200 years, 50 years seems a short life span for the Forth road bridge.

I understand all that.

So you look at location location location, length and climatic conditions, ie weather and temperatures and humidities then compare like for like.

 

Short Life Span, long span of a river.

Maybe deep pockets and short arms when the UK were funding the building of the bridge in the 60's.

 

I am old enough to remember having to come via Glenfarg and then get the Ferry.

& my old man having to Service the car before a trip south to my Grannies.

Epic Roadtrips for the Festive Season.

Forth rail bridge opened 1890 still serviceable. Many of Bridges that Brunel built are still in daily use.

Forth road bridge built 1964 is at the end of is life.

Looks like those Victorian engineers knew their stuff.

 

The Forth Railway Bridge was built just after the Tay Bridge disaster and was massively over-engineered because of it. The loads that it carries has not altered very much since that time, and the engineering loads imposed on it now are less than when it was used by steam trains, because diesel or electric locos do not cause a "hammer load" that steam trains did.

 

The Forth Road Bridge was designed to have a life of 25 years and to carry less than 20k vehicles a year. It has now passed it's "sell by" date, is carrying well over double the designed number of vehicles, and the weight of those vehicles has increased.