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As above.

It locked itself with my keys in the car, while I was making an enquiry at the side of the road - luckily outside my house.

Could happen whilst refuelling also I suppose.

Can this be turned off?

Thanks

PS I am a lady who doesn't always have voluminous pockets in which to put car keys!!

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  • If you mean auto relock after 30 seconds if a door has not been opened, I am pretty sure that the answer is no. I never use the centre remote button to unlock the boot having had grief in the past fr

  • Opening the boot does disable the auto relock, if you have globally opened the car (ie pushed the open padlock button). If you just push the open boot button, this enables the boot to be opened only

  • Can you not shut the boot after doing everything else? I'm not being flippant, I just mean - you unlock car, open boot, put keys in boot and unload everything, pick up keys, shut boot. That seems like

What!

Just what I don't need.

Does the interior light illuminate when you open only the drivers door?

 

If not, then the microswitch that detects the door is open has probably failed. Without this working, the car doesn't know you've opened the door.

 

When first unlocked, it will auto lock again after 30 seconds if you don't open any doors.

 

Obviously if it doesn't detect that the door had opened, it will lock again.

Does the interior light illuminate when you open only the drivers door?

 

If not, then the microswitch that detects the door is open has probably failed. Without this working, the car doesn't know you've opened the door.

 

When first unlocked, it will auto lock again after 30 seconds if you don't open any doors.

 

Obviously if it doesn't detect that the door had opened, it will lock again.

Doesn't it have to detect motion before locking?.

In all the recent new cars I've had (Toyota, Volvo, Yeti and the Honda) the system worked exactly the same, i.e. If the car was unlocked but none of the doors was opened within about 30 seconds or so, the car re-locked. Once a door was opened, whether the car was moved or not, it wouldn't automatically re-lock.

I think it would be helpful to know the sequence of locking and unlocking events.

I like the auto lock feature as it is easily possible to unlock the car accidentally if the key fob is activated in a pocket or bag.

I'm not sure the boot opening counts as an unlock. So if you locked the car, then just unlocked the boot and put the keys in the boot then shut it I think it may re lock.

That reminds me if an incident when I was out with my late parents 30 years ago. My Mum unlocked the boot with the key but whilst open must have turned it back to the locking position. Then put the keys on the boot floor and shut the lid!

My dad and I not to be beat borrowed some tools, removed the rear seat, carefully pushed away the fibreboard 'bulkhead' and retrieved the keys. Luckily we were at a motoring event so plenty of tools, help and advice was available. A bit like this forum.

The technology may change but .....

Edited by 33q

You can lock them in if you unlock the boot only, throw the keys in and slam lock the boot.....but I can't think why you'd want to.

Doesn't it have to detect motion before locking?.

That is a different feature.

 

The anti-hijack feature locks the car when you go over 15 kph.

You can lock them in if you unlock the boot only, throw the keys in and slam lock the boot.....but I can't think why you'd want to.

I've had the garage do this several times when I couldn't get there before closing time.

 

They can park it up outside and lock it, and I can pick it up with the spare later on.

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You can lock them in if you unlock the boot only, throw the keys in and slam lock the boot.....but I can't think why you'd want to.

Ah, but that's just what happened!! You see, I keep a 'walker' in the boot. I have to lift it out and used to put the keys on the floor of the boot of my old car, so I could use both hands!!! By the time I set it up in the street etc., it locked the Yeti. I will now have to put the keys on the road behind the car to ensure they don't get locked in.

Judging by the response, I can't turn off this setting. Will have to try and 'hide' another key somewhere on the outside of the jalopy!! Ohhhh....technology!! I like to be in charge of my own destiny thank you very much.

Loved my old Morris Minor with the long gear stick hahaha.

Ah, but that's just what happened!! You see, I keep a 'walker' in the boot. I have to lift it out and used to put the keys on the floor of the boot of my old car, so I could use both hands!!! By the time I set it up in the street etc., it locked the Yeti. I will now have to put the keys on the road behind the car to ensure they don't get locked in.

Judging by the response, I can't turn off this setting. Will have to try and 'hide' another key somewhere on the outside of the jalopy!! Ohhhh....technology!! I like to be in charge of my own destiny thank you very much.

Loved my old Morris Minor with the long gear stick hahaha.

 

Can you not shut the boot after doing everything else? I'm not being flippant, I just mean - you unlock car, open boot, put keys in boot and unload everything, pick up keys, shut boot. That seems like the standard procedure to me! :)

Edited by Jimrod

Back to the OP's issue

How did it do that?

How did it do that?

If you unlock the car using the remote, and a door is not then opened within 30 secs then the car will lock itself again.

 

Therefore You can unlock the car with the remote, open the boot (not a door!) - the car will now lock itself (even with the boot open) now put the key in the boot and close it - Voila! car locked with keys in the boot!

 

Jim

Back to the OP's issue

How did it do that?

 

I think she explained it didn't she? Opening the boot, leaving keys in boot, shutting boot. So it doesn't count as the car being opened and it locks itself to keep secure in-case of accidental button press in pocket/bag. 

 

Or am I missing something, this thread has me confused...

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Can you not shut the boot after doing everything else?

Yup.... I did. But forgot the keys on the floor of the boot!!

Now I am getting confused. Anyway, seems I can't turn off that auto lock thingy. So.... have to hide the key.

Edited by twoladies

"But forgot the keys on the floor of the boot"!!

 

:D

Sorry for that but it just made me larf....

 

Quote "PS I am a lady who doesn't always have voluminous pockets in which to put car keys!! 

How about put a spare key on your necklace? 

 

I think I'll need me coat now.

Edited by Carlo diesel

Opening the boot does disable the auto relock, if you have globally opened the car (ie pushed the open padlock button). If you just push the open boot button, this enables the boot to be opened only and, as described above, when you close the boot it rearms the alarm and 'locks' the boot. Remember, with the boot there's no actual locking mechanism, all that happens when you 'unlock' is it you enable the small micro switch in the boot handle that pops the latch open. 'Locking' the car simply deactivates this switch.

To OP: I would recommend either:

1. Doing a full unlock of the car, rather than just the boot unlock. This will stop your situation from happening and allow you to carry on with your existing routine, but you need to remember to lock the car again afterwards.

2. Use the 'boot unlock' button, then immediately pocket/handbag the key, then open the boot, do your thing and close the boot. On closing the car will rearm the security so no need to find the key again. Make sure the pocket or handbag don't get put in the boot!

For the reasons demonstrated, I never use the boot unlock button. It is a redundant button to me on both my cars. The only car I ever drove that it was useful on was a Mercedes C Class that actually opened the boot when you pushed the button.

I regularly open just the boot on the fob, 2 blips, which unlocks the other doors as well, to put model boats etc in the rear area, but it has never relocked the other doors, have not changed 'stuff' in the mfd/maxidot either

I regularly open just the boot on the fob, which unlocks the other doors, to put model boats etc in the rear area, but it has never relocked the other doors, have not changed 'stuff' in the mfd/maxidot either

Mine locks in that scenario ....the other doors don't UNlock AFAIK

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"But forgot the keys on the floor of the boot"!!

 

:D

Sorry for that but it just made me larf....

 

Quote "PS I am a lady who doesn't always have voluminous pockets in which to put car keys!! 

How about put a spare key on your necklace? 

 

I think I'll need me coat now.

And don't forget your keys ROTFL!! Nice to see someone has a sense of humour.

Seems to be some crossed purposes here, potentially confused by national differences.

Frenchtone appears to be 'globally' unlocking the car (doors 'n' all), but only physically entering the boot. This will not cause a locked-in situation.

Ryeman describes "not unlocking the doors", which (in the UK anyway) means using the 'boot unlock' button rather than the 'opened padlock' button), which WILL cause a locked-in situation.

correct ^

BEWARE ! you can lock yourself out with your key on the back seat !!!!!

 

My car is set to unlock the drivers and right hand passenger doors.

If you unlock the car and only open the back passenger door and then close it the car will still auto lock within 30 seconds.  

When it does this the car is locked, the alarm is not set and the flashing LED in the drivers door remains OFF.

 

Because the drivers door was not opened the auto locking was not deactivated and is still in place.

 

I have not checked to see if the deadlocks are on but it seems like another way to lock pets in without the alarm being set.

 

The way to get around this problem is to have your key tied on a bungee cord attached to something outside your car :D

Just unlock the car and put the keys in your pocket, it works for me. (but I'm old school.) If I'm in and out of the boot, I unlock all doors, open the boot, and then within 30 seconds open and shut one of the passenger doors, then all doors and boot stay unlocked. If not, in 30 secs all doors lock and the boot locks on closing. Hence, plip, keys to pocket.

KESSY does not have this problem.

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