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Take one demerit point  :rofl:

Perhaps you aren't being fair, the space-bar on this laptop needs to be thumped to get it to work, so I often produce my own joined-up words......

 

DC 

Perhaps you aren't being fair, the space-bar on this laptop needs to be thumped to get it to work, so I often produce my own joined-up words......

 

DC 

You also need to take life less serious and see what's meant as contextual humour and not criticism.

Now here's a thought, just theoretical for me like, as I wouldn't be buying one. .........

 

The 280. Is it noisier than the 220 ? Does it rev higher by default or only if you need it to ? Noisier or Same noise as 220 ?

Probably the same, the red-line is 6.5k rpm on both engines, & if you spin the engine to red-line whilst driving a taxi your passengers are going

to be "concerned"...... (If you can find a demonstrator, try selecting "S" & pushing the pedal to the metal, I find that passengers do make the odd 

remark,.... SWMBO's comment last night was " the car in front is going to eat dirt, isn't it? So, I obliged & she smiled............)

 

I've driven an S3 220 ps & when compared to my S2 2.0 TSi, there's no real difference. I've just had Goodyear EfficientGrips fitted all round & there is

a real noise saving when compared to the old Conti Sport Contact 2's.

 

As for comparing S3 diesels & petrols, outside the car the difference is very obvious, inside not so much, but you are always aware that you are driving

 the diesel, some NVH, & a surprising lack of performance.

 

As for the 1.4TSi, not for me I just don't do enough miles to need the economy & I do have reservations re the 7-speed DSG, but it's reckoned to be a quiet & refined unit. 

 

DC

You also need to take life less serious and see what's meant as contextual humour and not criticism.

It was a joke............................

It was a joke............................

Sorry… fair dinkum   :giggle:  :giggle:  :giggle:  :giggle:

If I were in your position I'd be looking at a Toyota Hybrid such as Auris Touring or Prius - Quiet, easy to drive, reliable , capable of very high mileages, no dpf/urea injection, under-stressed oily bits, non turbo 1.8 engine & generator, regen braking - pads last for ages, well suited for urban driving

For a cab that only does school runs short town trips, this is probably the perfect solution, but if like me the car does more long runs (airports, seaports) then the lack of interior and boot space would be a huge problem.

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Range is a bit limited on an all electric but this isn't mainly why I have already rejected these cars. They don't have enough room, well certainly not luggage space. In terms of noise, you might think it would be a quiet option but no. It is all very well marvelling at how quiet the Prius is ambling about at low speed, but the trouble with these kind of cars is up at speed ( quite a bit of my day in fact ) they are noisy. My local roads tend to be rough more than smooth.They are pretty basic really in build and to be "eco" can be stripped out somewhat. The Prius I considered, but I decided no.  The Auris, hell no, that's terrible and too noisy fundamentally.

 

I would like to see a hybrid and eventually plug in Superb, but that's a long way off.

 

I like the Superb for various reasons suiting my purpose - spacious, good value,.robust and reliable, reasonaly quiet. I think it is a really smart choice for taxi.

 

B.t.w. just an aside here ; the Greenline you might think would be a good choice because of the fuel economy but actually is a stupid choice of taxi for a package of reasons and IMO the Greenline thing is somewhat a gimmick and a pointless self defeating cheat.

Superb is a great choice in general though and I do like my car.

 

I posted a bit when I was choosing my old car and when I first got it then went silent mainly.  I have been posting lots in the last week or so, because I am really interested in the Mk III and seek to understand it better and see if it meets my needs better compared to other marques.  The possibility of the car audio system cancelling noise really excited me and wanted to know more. It seems it won't do what I wanted but I still await proper confirmation of that. I get the impression that the refinement of diesels progresses all the time from what people say in their opinons. The prospect of petrol being a viable option for me is new and welcome. The 1.4 is economical enough and by all reports, very quiet. The Superb in general in MkIII form it would seem from posted review and forum opinion is improved in quietness overall. The Superb, now in Mk III form is certainly a top contender for Mk II replacement.

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The Model S would indeed be marvellous. However it is not a practical proposition.

 

I would do a LOT more than 15000 miles pa, given in the allowance by Tesla.

Corporation Tax doesn't come into my equation.

The charging infrastructure where I live just isn't up to it.

No dealers anywhere near, to maintain it.

 

A great car though.

 

In certain places, e.g. in the Scandinavian world, because of the tax system and environmental incentives through it, the Model S compares very well with conventional alternatives. Thus, you see a lot of them about there, as ordinary taxis.

 

 

 

 

MODS :  Can we not have some time leeway to edit for speeling typos and to make sentences better, before the edit shows, like in a lot of other forums ?

Usually when I edit I haven't changed stuff I've written, just tidied it up. A few minutes leeway would be good.

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150 CR150 SE Business Dsg or 1.4 Tsi SE -L Dsg, seem the best two Superb options for me, so far.

 

I am impressed by the new Superb and I am enjoying finding out more via these forums.

The Model S would indeed be marvellous. However it is not a practical proposition.

 

I would do a LOT more than 15000 miles pa, given in the allowance by Tesla.

Corporation Tax doesn't come into my equation.

The charging infrastructure where I live just isn't up to it.

No dealers anywhere near, to maintain it.

 

A great car though.

 

In certain places, e.g. in the Scandinavian world, because of the tax system and environmental incentives through it, the Model S compares very well with conventional alternatives. Thus, you see a lot of them about there, as ordinary taxis.

 

 

 

 

MODS :  Can we not have some time leeway to edit for speeling typos and to make sentences better, before the edit shows, like in a lot of other forums ?

Usually when I edit I haven't changed stuff I've written, just tidied it up. A few minutes leeway would be good.

Why don't you become a freedom member ?

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Giving me extra editing ability ?  Might well do.  Can you explain further ?

Range is a bit limited on an all electric but this isn't mainly why I have already rejected these cars. They don't have enough room, well certainly not luggage space. In terms of noise, you might think it would be a quiet option but no. It is all very well marvelling at how quiet the Prius is ambling about at low speed, but the trouble with these kind of cars is up at speed ( quite a bit of my day in fact ) they are noisy. My local roads tend to be rough more than smooth.They are pretty basic really in build and to be "eco" can be stripped out somewhat. The Prius I considered, but I decided no.  The Auris, hell no, that's terrible and too noisy fundamentally.

 

I would like to see a hybrid and eventually plug in Superb, but that's a long way off.

 

I like the Superb for various reasons suiting my purpose - spacious, good value,.robust and reliable, reasonaly quiet. I think it is a really smart choice for taxi.

 

B.t.w. just an aside here ; the Greenline you might think would be a good choice because of the fuel economy but actually is a stupid choice of taxi for a package of reasons and IMO the Greenline thing is somewhat a gimmick and a pointless self defeating cheat.

Superb is a great choice in general though and I do like my car.

 

I posted a bit when I was choosing my old car and when I first got it then went silent mainly.  I have been posting lots in the last week or so, because I am really interested in the Mk III and seek to understand it better and see if it meets my needs better compared to other marques.  The possibility of the car audio system cancelling noise really excited me and wanted to know more. It seems it won't do what I wanted but I still await proper confirmation of that. I get the impression that the refinement of diesels progresses all the time from what people say in their opinons. The prospect of petrol being a viable option for me is new and welcome. The 1.4 is economical enough and by all reports, very quiet. The Superb in general in MkIII form it would seem from posted review and forum opinion is improved in quietness overall. The Superb, now in Mk III form is certainly a top contender for Mk II replacement.

 

 

I too explored the hybrids myself but had to rule them out on capital cost alone (Superb was many thousands cheaper) and whilst the urban economy is great on them I spend most of my driving life on open A road/ Motorways where I felt the Superb;s direct petrol injection may be better

 

I went for the Superb II 1.4 for various reasons:-

1) Price - just a bit over £10k for a 14 month old car

2) Comfort - I'm tall so like the longer front doors so I have somewhere to put my right elbow - I also have a 6ft 5" son! - The front doors in the MKIII Octavia are too short for me!

3) Refinement 

4) 16" Tyre size on the S model - good ride comfort, cheap and longer lasting (already got 22k on it and still over 6mm tread)

5) Stop/start

6) No DPF & urea injection

7) No DMF (not sure about mkIII's here)

8) Headlights that could be easily converted to continental driving (I do a lot of this) without using stickers! 

9) Boot space

10) Economy was reasonable on an extended test drive however In reality fuel consumption better than expected - on longer journeys in the UK mpg is over 49mpg (I've started the Spiritmonitor icon - currently showing just over 45 but that includes awful city traffic visiting my father in Hull Royal Infirmary) 

 

Clearly some of these points could also be relevant for taxi use!

 

Potential downside for taxi use - direct injection cars can be prone to carbon buildup (both petrol and diesel can be affected but petrol usually worse) but this has been improved on later designs (from all vendors!) with oil breather and engine management/ vvt tweaks . Some petrol direct injection engines (not the 1.4) now also have two sets of injectors (direct and port) to reduce particulate emissions which would have a side effect of occasionally washing petrol past the valves whilst port injectors active which should stop carbon buildup. There are also servicing techniques that can clear this issue if present

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