Received an NIP in the post today from the South Yorkshire Police (Safer Road Partnership)

 

Apparently I was doing 46mph in a 40mph zone. Zapped in Doncaster on the 12 January 2016 :(

Received an NIP in the post today from the South Yorkshire Police (Safer Road Partnership)

 

Apparently I was doing 46mph in a 40mph zone. Zapped in Doncaster on the 12 January 2016 :(

 

Thought you had to recieve the NIP within 14 days? or is it 21

Received an NIP in the post today from the South Yorkshire Police (Safer Road Partnership)

 

Apparently I was doing 46mph in a 40mph zone. Zapped in Doncaster on the 12 January 2016 :(

 

 

Thought you had to recieve the NIP within 14 days? or is it 21

I thought it was 28? And make this day 22.

 

Anyway, ask to check the vehicle type, because it's been known for this to be wrong (if you were even there at or about the stated time).

I thought it was 14 days too

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Received an NIP in the post today from the South Yorkshire Police (Safer Road Partnership)

 

Apparently I was doing 46mph in a 40mph zone. Zapped in Doncaster on the 12 January 2016 :(

 

 

Thought you had to recieve the NIP within 14 days? or is it 21

 

14 days it is.............

 

http://www.driving-law.co.uk/terms/intended_prosecution.asp

It has to be 'sent' within 14 days.

whens the letter dated?

Ok, won't let this run too long without giving more details.

Got the NIP today & tbh was a bit gutted. Took about 10 mins to actually work out where I was on the day, being over 3 week since the alledged offence.

Turns out I was at work all day 0700-1600 in Hull, with the car parked outside.

Last time I was in Doncaster was back in October 2015, flying from Robin Hood Airport.

Looking at Google maps, I have never been on this road in my life!

So question is now, is it a camera / admin error, or a cloned plate?

Immediate thing is to respond to the NIP. The standard form really doesn't fit this circumstance. Do I just write a letter? Or does the form have to be filled in as best as possible?

Anyway, ask to check the vehicle type, because it's been known for this to be wrong (if you were even there at or about the stated time).

Full marks sir

You can sometimes go on the website and see the camera image, depending what took the pic.

My dad got done eligidly on his R1200GSA. Went online and looked at the pic. Little old lady sat behind thr wheel of a red Kia Picanto with one letter different on the numberplate.

Rang up the Dvla, explained. They looked and cancelled without argument (well imyou cant really argue a car is a bike can ya )

Does it give you a website?

You can sometimes go on the website and see the camera image, depending what took the pic.

My dad got done eligidly on his R1200GSA. Went online and looked at the pic. Little old lady sat behind thr wheel of a red Kia Picanto with one letter different on the numberplate.

Rang up the Dvla, explained. They looked and cancelled without argument (well imyou cant really argue a car is a bike can ya )

Does it give you a website?

Yep, really crap!

Phone number on the NIP basically gives you a pre-recorded message directing you to the website. The website gives a telephone number for queries, which gives you a pre-recorded message directing you to the website...........great

Can't see anything else other than where they plan to locate the camera's, and messages about why you shouldn't speed.

The NIP just doesn't have any options on there about the fact you could be innocent!!

Edited 3 February, 201610 yr by 999pooch

I had a similar one, there is a space on the form to say if you were the driver, in this case you say it was not you as you were not there

 

John

Send back saying not you.  Sounds like a cloned plate to me, and hopefully not on a golf R so can see its not the same model.

Try the "mash the key pad" technique that sometimes leads to an automatic rerouting of the call to a human?

I had this last year after just buying my car. I got a nip for an offence at a time and in a place I couldn't possibly have been. I checked the online evidence (which has to be provided) and sure enough it wasn't me, similar car, cloned plate.

I contacted the issuing body, informed the police via non emergency number and received a call from the ANPR control room (who's information about my cars driving and whereabouts were unbelievably scary and accurate). I provided evidence and it was later quashed.

They guy from ANPR control explained that the criminals will have a similar or identical vehicle to the one they choose to clone, they find them online for sale then they wait until it's removed from sale (presumably sold) and been taxed and mot'd (easily checked online these days). They then get plates made online or use a shop that doesn't ask for documents then hey presto they're driving around with non tax, insurance, mot and are free to rack up points and fines on your behalf.

The police told me it was rife around East Lancashire and west Yorkshire, with many cars being damaged to the point where they should be scrapped but are instead "repaired" and subsiquently cloned because they have been considered unroadworthy on their original identity.

in the end they phoned me to ask if I was in central manchester because I'd pinged up on several cameras but the car was in rochdale in a secure car park 30 feet away from me. on the strength of that they sent a panda car to apprehend the car and it's driver and I never heard anything more.

I also told the dvla of the goings on.

Send back saying not you. Sounds like a cloned plate to me, and hopefully not on a golf R so can see its not the same model.

This is my fear. Same car with cloned plates, harder to prove it wasn't me, and potentially more NIP's to come :(

I had a similar one, there is a space on the form to say if you were the driver, in this case you say it was not you as you were not there

John

There's a space to say I'm not the driver, followed by a space to say who it is! Not one to say 'wrong car'

Probably easier just to write a covering letter me thinks

call the issuing body AND email them. its all recorded then should you need to prove your correspondence.

call the issuing body AND email them. its all recorded then should you need to prove your correspondence.

The issuing body has no telephone number that is manned, just a pre-recorded message directing you to the website.

The website has a postall address for 'all communications'

This is my fear. Same car with cloned plates, harder to prove it wasn't me, and potentially more NIP's to come :(

 

Tip given to me by a senior traffic officer:

Place an unusual or obviously recognisable item, such as a sticker, on the front and rear of the vehicle. You can then prove whether it is your vehicle or not.

Tip given to me by a senior traffic officer:

Place an unusual or obviously recognisable item, such as a sticker, on the front and rear of the vehicle. You can then prove whether it is your vehicle or not.

 

im not following...

 

whats stopping you from sticking a sticker on afterwards? 

Tip given to me by a senior traffic officer:

Place an unusual or obviously recognisable item, such as a sticker, on the front and rear of the vehicle. You can then prove whether it is your vehicle or not.

SWMBO normally sits next to me, they'res definitely not another out there like her

Looks like you'll not be prosecuted after all then.

Mrs john999boy had a similar (wrong car) experience documented in this thread.

http://www.safetycamera.org

Link to website on NIP.

Pretty useless really, no way of garnering any info about the actual offence, and the telephone doesn't actually work.

Found an email contact in general enquiries section, will give that a go

Tip given to me by a senior traffic officer:

Place an unusual or obviously recognisable item, such as a sticker, on the front and rear of the vehicle. You can then prove whether it is your vehicle or not.

as luck would have it - mine had a sticker on the bottom of the windscreen which helped identify my car and set it apart from the clone.

I was also asked to stick a 1cm black sticker on the number plates to confirm mine was the non cloned vehicle when ever it pinged up on the ANPR cameras.