Just went to move my car over on the driveway, so its completley cold as not been used since this morning.

It was stiff going into 1st gear, i held my weight on the leaver and turned the engine off, it fell straight into place.

I put it back into neautral and started the car and it did the same again, so i pumped the clutch twice and it went in fine.

 

Now, its quite rare i get any problems but it cant be good for the Clutch/gearbox so think i'll get it sorted next week.

 

so far i've only tried fitting the shim which didnt work, i have very little play in the gearbox and it was to tight to fit the shim in place and get the clip back on, i tried pulling the centre while pushing the clip etc but it was to tight so put it back together without it.

I done changed the gearbox oil a little while ago which didnt make any difference.

 

Im going to try resetting the gear linkages, i dont think this is the problem but its got over 100,000 now so going to do it regaurdless.

Im then going to bleed the clutch or at least change it for new fluid to see if that helps.

 

The biting point on the clutch does seem a little high so im not sure long how its got left before i get any sort of slipping, its remapped to around 170BHP and dont get any slipping now, but dont think im far off!

 

 

Whats your opinion on what you think the fault is?

 

Thanks.

Have you tried bleeding the clutch? The fact that it slips in with the engine off sounds like a clutch issue to me.

Edited 14 April, 201610 yr by TMB

Have you tried bleeding the clutch? The fact that it slips in with the engine off sounds like a clutch issue to me.

 

Not yet, As above Though "Im then going to bleed the clutch or at least change it for new fluid to see if that helps."

Ive been through all of this as you have seen. If there is or was play on the outer then there will most likely be play on the opposite end in the middle of the box. Rebuild time.....

Not yet, As above Though "Im then going to bleed the clutch or at least change it for new fluid to see if that helps."

 

Sorry, I missed that bit in your post.

Edited 14 April, 201610 yr by TMB

Ive been through all of this as you have seen. If there is or was play on the outer then there will most likely be play on the opposite end in the middle of the box. Rebuild time.....

 

Again, i had no play, not enough to fit the shim and thats quite thin.

Seized dmf. Search my posts and you will find I had the same issues not long after I got the car. 1st and reverse were a pain in the butt, rest of the box was fine mostly. Fitted new dmf and clutch and problem solved.

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Again, i had no play, not enough to fit the shim and thats quite thin.

Neither did i, but i had 25mm play at the opposite end in the middle of the box... ....

Neither did i, but i had 25mm play at the opposite end in the middle of the box... ....

 

Ah, gotcha! 

Its one of those things, i personally think its clutch related since when the engine stops it falls straight into gear no problem, so its like the clutch is holding gears. i dont get any other problems with the clutch other than i think its getting low, so feel replacing it might fix my issue.

 

Its just going to be a pain to do all that to replace the clutch and flywheel and refit the gearbox to find its the same and have to pay again to remove it and get it rebuilt.

Seized dmf. Search my posts and you will find I had the same issues not long after I got the car. 1st and reverse were a pain in the butt, rest of the box was fine mostly. Fitted new dmf and clutch and problem solved.

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I cant say if its that or not, but im pretty sure my flywheel is healthy. It doesnt chatter and drives fine.

I think yours will probbably be clutch related also, it just happens to be you replaced both parts.

Mines had no chatter right enough, just pain in the padded ass to get reverse and first. Reset the cables, would be fine for a run, next time out knackered again. Changed the cables, as one of the cable ends had a leg missing, same thing, fine for one run, then knackered again. Found a thread with similar issues, dropped the car off with a new clutch and dmf, and when I went to pick it up they told me the flywheel had seized up, was I having any problems, so only going by what the garage told me.

Yeah that's fair enough, it could well be the problem yet.

The thing is, the flywheels don't just sieze up. They chatter and chatter untill the play in springs gets so free the flywheel twists to much one way and stays in place, basically making it a solid flywheel!

Sounds like the clutch is dragging to me. Either the flywheel at fault or a problem with the associated hydraulics. I know its been mentioned already but I would give the clutch a good bleed, the fact that the problem seems to go after a couple of pumps of the clutch seems to suggest the the clutch isn't fully disengaging all the time but if it was a DMF issue you you probably expect the issue to be there all the time

I can't decide if I had clutch drag this morning.

Had the clutch down and the car was pulling farward... Can't tell if it was rolling downhill slightly or the clutch dragging.

Might just get an uprated clutch and flywheel and hopefully that will sort it

I can't decide if I had clutch drag this morning.

Had the clutch down and the car was pulling farward... Can't tell if it was rolling downhill slightly or the clutch dragging.

Might just get an uprated clutch and flywheel and hopefully that will sort it

Sounds like a good excuse for an uprated clutch. Gonna try that one next time. Hehe.

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So a price on the uprated clutch and flywheel seems to be around £550, but I can get standard OEM clutch and flywheel kit with slave cylinder etc... Everything you need for £300 so not far off half price so will be going standard.

Just need to decide on Sachs or LUK!

I've always thought Sachs but most garages and suppliers say LUK is better (some places said lifetime gaurantee on LUK flywheel!)

The biting point on the clutch does seem a little high so im not sure long how its got left before i get any sort of slipping, its remapped to around 170BHP and dont get any slipping now, but dont think im far off!

 

 

For what it's worth, my biting point has been basically as high as it can physically be without the clutch being fully engaged for over a year now and I've never had any slipping. I do drive an SDI though so maybe that's why :p

I fitted the Luk one to mine, just make sure they include the bolts with it as the parts aren't interchangeable. The first box I got had been returned to the shop and the bolts were missing so had to go to the shop get them to open another box and give me the bolts out of it.

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I went sachs when i was still on a stage one map and it fitted absolutly no problem. Even took the torque of my hybrid for a while without slipping until i upgraded to a stronger clutch and SMF

Mines still Ok Hutchy, It was a little bit notchy the other day but much better now since fitting the shim.

I do know my clutch is on its last legs but for some reason it just keeps going, I got a high biting point and every so often it slips for a bit but then it just settles by itself, like right now I can give it full beans no problem, a month or 2 a go I had to feed the power in.

Something I did notice yesterday though with the clutch peddle all the way down its quite, all the way up its quite but half way engaged it chatters like mad. Is that normal or obvious signs that it needs doing?

Mines the same, I guess it's just not good having a half engaged clutch

I never checked branding but will see whichever is cheaper LUK or Sachs, I really don't mind either!

I've went with Sachs since it's what's currently fitted

It could be the interlock on your gearbox maybe? The mechanism that stops you selecting 2 gears at once, or the one that makes you push down to go in reverse?

I'll find out soon enough.

Hopefully the clutch fixes it like it has for others!

I have the same problem on my 1.4, i think it is the clutch on mine because if you get the revs right it slips straight into gear