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The battery as the new frontier

Ryeman
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I had a chance to buy one of these outright, it was a Demonstrator & for just under £12,000., a LWB one.

I got 65 miles out of it, then major panic set in and i spent £7 @ a KFC while i charged it, (& i got even fatter)

and then returned it, so that was a no.

Maybe best for Cities and Local Authorities /Police / NHS etc & vehicles that do short trips in and back to base.

 

Fantastic review.

 

You and me who want autos it is a choice if the journeys fit. We will be using such vehicles for our Heathrow runs from Airline Transit Sheds to our Remote Transit sheds just off the airport.

 

Touch choice for us as we do lots of work with Renault but also have our own vehicles but the Kangoo ZE is compelling for these run round the airport with park ups every couple of hours.   The auto regen-braking down slopes sound a bit weird but no doubt efficient and could be adapted to. 

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Just much prefer the Zoe looks etc.  Clearly want a 30 KwHr battery at least but twice that should be the aim at least, 90/100 KwHr preferable though if they could lose quarter to half a tonne of weight is needed and then less power needed, Saturn V principal.   Just park over induction loop and fast charge too.

It seems the Germans have chosen a path to make battery power attractive

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1103636_germany-announces-1-4-billion-electric-car-incentive-plan

 

 

They have been shamed in to this and German government giving 1B Euros to look green.

 

I have some sympathy in that German cars might want to have 160 kph plus performance which only Tesla's currently cater for and therefore hybrid is more there thing.

 

Interesting that China has just past half a million

 

http://www.hybridcars.com/china-reports-500000th-plug-in-vehicle-sold/ 

 

China Reports 500,000th Plug-in Vehicle Sold
by Jeff Cobb May 11, 2016
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China has reported that by March it had exceeded a half-million plug-in electrified vehicles sold, and if things go to plan, the world has seen almost nothing yet.   In what is now the largest conventional car and plug-in car market, Chinese authorities have since 2012 had a goal that Tesla could approve of to sell 10-times this number, or 5 million New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) by 2020.  These would consists of all classes of battery electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles from passenger cars to buses and heavy trucks.  This year, the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM) estimates present sales progress in the rapidly spooling up market could see 700,000 cumulative sales reached.  The tally through March of 502,572 NEVs includes 366,219 battery electric vehicles, and 136,353 plug-in hybrids. This consists of around 60-percent passenger vehicles, and the rest are buses and heavy duty trucks, of which, more than 100,000 are all-electric buses.

 

Asterisk on the Total Count

A few qualifiers are in order however. Chinese authorities are investigating alleged cheating which could have padded figures. If they are inflated, April sales of 31,772 more NEVs just announced today brought the reported total to 534,000 making it more likely 500,000 has been crossed or will be soon.  Further, the 500,000-plus sales reported exclude foreign-built EVs such as Tesla Model S and BMW i3.  At least certain is rapid growth is being reported as policymakers revise the incentive plan to model things on California.  “Relevant national departments are currently studying and drawing lessons from the U.S. state of California’s methods to encourage the use of new energy cars (to tackle vehicle emissions),” said Xu Heyi, chairman of the state-owned Beijing Automotive Group last July.  China is the world’s leader in the plug-in heavy-duty segment, including electric buses, plug-in trucks, particularly sanitation trucks.  If one compared it to the former world leader, the U.S., since 2008 450,000 plug-in passenger vehicles had been sold, or about half of a 1 million PEV goal set by President Obama earlier this decade.   

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Did not realize just how far electric bikes had come......

 

http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/eu/

 

Similar performance to my SV650 but still needs incentives like cars or no or 5% VAT but the running costs are negliable compared to petrol bikes and range not too bad.  

Shame electric bikes are limited to 250W and 25 kph, an circumvention to this anybody knows about??

 

 

Would love to pass my Lycra neighbour whilst cycling with little effort up a big hill !

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But mainly charged from Germany's national grid that have increased their reliance on coal fired power stations by the early decommission of Nuclear Stations.

It seems Germany has indicated they are transitioning to a renewable energy future .....wind/biomass/solar etc.

It seems Germany has indicated they are transitioning to a renewable energy future .....wind/biomass/solar etc.

 

Powered by VW hot air probably.

 

 

Germany buys in renewable energy from countries like Denmark and nuclear from France.

 

http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-energy/denmark-sets-world-record-wind-power.html

Recently countries with great renewable energy resources have made impressive achievements in clean energy generation. Last year, Costa Rica met 99 percent of its energy demand with a mix of renewable energy and Scotland's wind turbines generated the equivalent electricity of 97% of its households' energy needs, though what was consumed was still a mix of renewables and fossil fuels.   Now, Denmark says it has hit a world record for the amount of wind energy consumed in a year with 42.1 percent of the country's energy needs being met by wind power according to the state-owned energy company Energinet.   The Scandinavian country says that although more wind energy was added to the grid last year, the major gain was because of a windier year than usual that kept the turbines spinning and cranking out electricity year round. Denmark was already getting a significant chunk of electricity from wind power with 2014 seeing 39.1 percent of their energy needs being met by wind.   These rising numbers are getting the country closer to its goal of having 50 percent of its energy demand satisfied by wind power by 2020.  “Hopefully, Denmark can serve as an example to other countries that it is possible to have both ambitious green policies with a high proportion of wind energy and other renewables in the energy supply, and still have a high security of supply and competitive prices on electricity," said the country’s minister for energy, utilities and climate, Lars Christian Lilleholt.  In western Denmark where most of the turbines are located, the energy generated exceeded demand 60 days last year. That surplus energy doesn't go to waste though. The producers sell it to consumers in Norway, Sweden and Germany and in return Denmark buys surplus hydroelectric power from Norway, solar energy from Germany and power station electricity from Sweden when needed. 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-36357539

More major investment in a offshore windfarm in Scottish waters gets the go ahead.

Good for the local communities and others.

More contributions to help the UK meet its targets on renewables which it is not doing that well with yet.

Use of super capacitors in conjunction with batteries can have a very noticeable affect as this article indicates.

 

http://www.idtechex.com/research/articles/supercapacitors-increase-range-of-electric-vehicles-00005861.asp

 

 

Super capacitors and Ultra capacitors are increasingly being used on cars of all varieties ie fully electric, hybrid and those with good regenerative braking systems.

 

I can see the time when cars will have 50/50 battery/capacitors as this is thought to be the way forward to make electric vehicles ultra quick charging ie close to a fill up of petrol/wiesel. 

 

 

Another article I find interesting on batteries/capacitors.....

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/whats_the_role_of_the_supercapacitor

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Absolutely right.  Hybrids can be as dirty as pure diesel/petrol cars.

 

Pure electric are zero emissions and will significantly help London pollution.   

So I imagined all those coal, gas and heavy oil power stations then?

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