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Any reason to not buy a diesel, facelift Scout?

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What did it entail? – basically the stripping of a fair amount of the car to get at the DPF, remove the internals, re-assemble and then map it out of the ECU.  It costs, given the extent of dismantling needed to get at the DPF on a 4x4x or Scout, but removes any future worries once and for all and also makes the car much more ‘driveable’.

 

The issue arise on the earlier Octy II 4x4 and Scout up to the facelift because they used the 2.0 TDI 8 valve BMM PD engine - which was never really designed with a DPF in mind (it’s basically a development of the 1.9 8 valve PD engine) so isn’t as well set up for DPF’s as it could be.

 

However, a lot of reports of early DPF failures could equally be due to faulty differential pressure sensors that are supposed to sense the pressure difference across the DPF (and hence how full it is).  Some cars had US-made sensors that are prone to failure whilst others had Malaysian (?) made ones that aren’t.

 

I’d therefore take a look at the back of the engine on any Scout or 4x4 to check which one is fitted.  It’s located on a pressed steel bracket at the back of the engine to towards the left of the engine bay looking at the front of the car - behind and slightly below the large diameter rubber intake to the EGR valve.  It is usually covered by a press-studded heat resistant cloth cover that can easily be removed to expose the sensor, which is a black box with a couple of small diameter hoses going to it.  If it says ‘Made in the US’ on it I’d be looking to change it for the non-US made part, although this will no doubt require VCDS to re-learn and set the DPF ash level for the DPF.

 

Alternatively, as I say, don’t worry too much until it causes problems and, when it does, decide what to do at that point - replace the DPF with a new one (it is effectively a service part, albeit a high cost one), or have the internals of the DPF removed and the DPF mapped out.

After decades of diesels we will soon be all petrol on our 3 cars.

 

Why? Too many DPF issues with family members and we currently do mainly urban driving.

 

Even VW/Skoda suggest you consider if buying a diesel with DPF is the correct choice if you do mainly short urban driving and they make their money selling cars.

 

And the Transport Minister has already openly stated that taxation must change to force drivers away from diesel.  So I also have concerns how diesel cars or diesel fuel will be taxed in a few years. As a minimum we'll find further and further restrictions on diesels entering city and town centres.

 

So for the thread starter these are my own reasons why I didn't buy diesel.

 

Lee

Edited by logiclee

The other factor that made me decide to go for the Scout was that other than the VRS it's the only 4x4 Octavia you can buy with an Auto box (DSG)

Save up for a MkIII Scout.

 

If you want vRS performance but with out the spine shattering ride combined with brilliant pothole resistance then the latest 184bhp Scout is an awesome machine.

 

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It's a pity it's only available with DSG.

Save up for a MkIII Scout.

 

If you want vRS performance but with out the spine shattering ride combined with brilliant pothole resistance then the latest 184bhp Scout is an awesome machine.

 

 

or get a similarly powered MkII 4x4 or Scout   :D

Edited by skomaz

That would require a map, the MkII was only 140bhp, the MkIII is available as 150bhp or 184bhp.

It's a pity it's only available with DSG.

 

Yep, we have Skoda UK to thank for that, a manual is available in other markets.

Save up for a MkIII Scout.

If you want vRS performance but with out the spine shattering ride combined with brilliant pothole resistance then the latest 184bhp Scout is an awesome machine.

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No puddle lights in mirror housing.

No blindspot wingmirrors.

No retractable cover storage box.

No central dash lidded cubby.

No right foot rest.

No lights on doorcard when doors opened.

No lidded covers for the storage areas behind the rear wheels.

No digital 'KPH' readout in central display.

And most importantly ;

No monthly payments as it's paid off! ;)

Cars don't live forever, more monthly payments are never far away.

 

Puddle lights are a cost option.

 

But I'll take the many other features that are now standard on the Scout instead  :thumbup:

That would require a map, the MkII was only 140bhp, the MkIII is available as 150bhp or 184bhp.

I know... Been there done that...

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it is not real 4x4 system so don't worry about "slow car" ;-) It is all EDL, Haldex and ECU magic :-D

Loving mine so far, better ride than a VRS, same power!!

 

The 4x4 system is pretty basic and doesn't seem to sap power or mpg, only gripe is that it ideally needs to be programmed via the ECU to be in 4wd on 'take-off' as it does have a tendency to spin the front wheels and there is a delay before the 4x4 haldex clutch engages. The LR Freelander 2 and Discovery Sport uses the same type of system and is primed to engage 4wd from start then release once moving and makes for easier starts on wet grass/roads etc.

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