Ignore the smiley faces in my last post. Copy and paste was a bit weird.

It is illegal but don't expect the police to come rushing round to do anything about it.

Only in a 'Special Enforcement Area'. And then it is a civil offence that the council give you a parking ticket for.

 

http://www.safermotoring.co.uk/parking-near-private-driveway-what-law.html

 

http://www.eden.gov.uk/transport-and-streets/parking/parking-tickets-and-enforcement/parking-on-dropped-kerb-and-double-parking/

 

I have looked in to this due to similar issues and there is sod all you can do basically.

 

London Boroughs are different though.

why not just stick your car there before he arrives, that way he has to look for another place to park, if his daughter asks why you do this you can say its too awkward to get your car off your drive when he does it so to save me crashing into his car this is the best solution for all. do it for long enough and I'm sure he'll get the message, no arguments, no stickers on his car, no letting his tyres down etc etc

 

i was always taught not to park across a driveway so I'm assuming its the done thing, no idea about opposite it though. A guy only did it once to my drive and just as i was about to turn onto it too, oh ill only be a minute he says, that's ok mate it only takes me 30 seconds to let your tyres down, needless to say he moved forward a little. Id say access is one of the most irritating things that happen between neighbors and the root cause of all fall outs with them

Once had someone visiting our neighbour park ON our drive, blocking 3 cars in. She just drove in, got out and sauntered 10m down to the next house. They were having a party and had already covered most of the road and all of their other neighbours drive. She look genuinely shocked when I told her if she leaves that there I'm going to start stripping it for parts

Once had someone visiting our neighbour park ON our drive, blocking 3 cars in. She just drove in, got out and sauntered 10m down to the next house. They were having a party and had already covered most of the road and all of their other neighbours drive. She look genuinely shocked when I told her if she leaves that there I'm going to start stripping it for parts

 

Sounds like the people who park in my space at work to go shopping, then get confused when I ask them if they don't want their car. 

Edited 3 July, 20169 yr by StevesTruck

Try asking him again, but don't be polite! Some people don't respond to being asked nicely.....

I'd keep on asking, til they get the message. I've had this for years on a narrow road. My gates are extra wide -as blondie over the road decided that outside her house was HERS. I parked ,legally on the road outside mine. She returned to park in "her spot", blocking road for all but small cars. Delivery driver came to mine- by this time I'd got fed up and sent him over the road. Final straw came when school bus came home ( I'd taken the precaution of photographing my car parked legally with nothing opposite) ,kids came out and battered my door DEMANDING that I move my car. I show them the photo ,time stamped and suggested driver might like to call police. She moved, and never tried it again.

Edited 3 July, 20169 yr by VWD

School kids round your way are far more polite than we were. Similar happened when I was at school and we just all piled off the bus and bounced them out of the way.

 

Ahhhh, different times. 

If I was your neighbour, I'd probably not park there if, for the eighteenth time that month, I'd had to pump my tyres up, as some unidentified scrote had let my tyres down in the night.Even if he got the offender on camera, it's not criminal damage, merely interfering and inconvenient.

Cough.

There was a fatal accident not far from where I live a few years ago, caused by someone interfering with tyres. The police initially blamed the poor female driver for speeding, until it turned out there had been a spate of such incidents in her neighbourhood.

Every time you need to enter or leave knock on door and ask for car to be moved as you don't want to bump it 

If he puts it back keep doing it until he gets the message 

 

 

Make a point of going out once or twice every time he's there. Even if you're only out for a minute.

Edited 6 July, 20169 yr by FlyingGecko

Not really MkIII related but because I have a MkIII am asking the question here!

 

Long story short - my neighbours parents, who are around *very often*, have a bad habit of parking their large Mondeo in front/opposite my driveway meaning that if I want to get out I need to perform a three point turn/manoeuvre just to leave my own house - hmmmppphhhh.

 

They will do this even if their daughters driveway is clear!!!!!!  Indeed, they never park opposite her driveway as that would impede her access and quick getaway.

 

I asked him very politely today to stop doing this as I have a large car and I need to do daft manoeuvre just to get going.  I am either going to prang his or my car by mistake.  TBH no apology or recognition of what he was doing.  He just doesn't care - as long as he and his daughter are all right.

 

You know if you illegally park at a hospital or other public building you get window stickered which leave an awful mess when you try and get them off.  Where can I purchase these stickers from?  Am sure if this happens to him he will rethink his parking ideas.

 

Far too many selfish people in the world that only think of what can make their life easier with little respect for others.

 

Rant over.

Before you put those on the car, I suggest you check out the law regarding vehicle interference.

You cannot impede access to anyones property by parking where there is a dropped curb. If anyone does this to you you can get their car towed away.

No law about parking opposite one though.

Actually you can not prevent them getting out of their property, but preventing them getting in isn't an issue.

It would come under being an arse, but that would then come under a whole new section of laws.

FWIW, I think the suggestion of being nice as pie and asking them if they could move their car and put it back, so you don't hit it getting out, would work quite well.

After all, you're being nice and polite.

Edited 5 July, 20169 yr by cheezemonkhai

Similar problem.I & son asked young lad & his GF if they'd use the other side to park as my five year old  GS was liable to rush out as he was not all there. That night, the car I had parked in son's front garden across the road ,next to young lad was blocked in as was the car parked on my drive, by hers. Done out of badness, I know. I said nothing, and know nothing about the events overnight, but I suspect someone down road ( with a grudge), was responsible as he's regularly have a window /roof/ tyres slashed . His was left alone, but GF car ended up with a few flat tyres.

There was a fatal accident not far from where I live a few years ago, caused by someone interfering with tyres. The police initially blamed the poor female driver for speeding, until it turned out there had been a spate of such incidents in her neighbourhood.

Yup, remember it well.

 

Letting down tyres isn't as innocent as the other poster makes out, and besides some upset neighbours who may retaliate, the police will take a dim view of such antics.

 

From our own parking issues, generally if you decide to become arsey it generally makes things worse, and they go out of their way to be difficult about it.

 

Ours escalated between neighbours as to who could get the most people round to take up spaces until the rest of us suffered just because someone came home early from work to find a tradesman van in the space on the street they park in - even though they have a driveway they never use!

G-man-in #35, I had nothing to do with it. I deplore tyre letting ,as it's a regular occurrence round here. I think i've p** off the culprits as i just get out my 12v pump and pump them up. Tyre letting is  dangerous .You've only got to corner a tad too fast on an island, find a bit of Derv on the road and- rear end heads sideways. Bit of experience and you sense when rear might break ,and compensate, but a newby- with no experience of auto skid correction - over correct and WIPEOUT.

.But it was poetic justice, as for years a lot of folks had punctures, to find a nail in the tread. Same type every time ,and one young lad thought it was a joke( same as he thought using an air rifle out of bedroom window to set off car alarms was) .This time it was his GF car. on this occasion, and more than one was flat, I'd suspect he got the wind of how folk ( or perhaps his competitors ) thought of his Dealing. Folk knew- but only two made a complaint- it's local custom to deal with this under the counter ,as complaints are traditionally "grassing".

Most time, being polite works, but with scum like this , it's only an incentive to make thing worse and him say "what are you going to do about it".

Once had someone visiting our neighbour park ON our drive, blocking 3 cars in. She just drove in, got out and sauntered 10m down to the next house. They were having a party and had already covered most of the road and all of their other neighbours drive. She look genuinely shocked when I told her if she leaves that there I'm going to start stripping it for parts

Should have left her to it. Meanwhile call a recovery truck to take the car to an impound garage. When said lady return point her in that direction. If she bitches and moans the curtly reply that this is your drive.

Should have left her to it. Meanwhile call a recovery truck to take the car to an impound garage. When said lady return point her in that direction. If she bitches and moans the curtly reply that this is your drive.

Or block her in with a few ton bags as someone did when someone parked on their driveway

Or block her in with a few ton bags as someone did when someone parked on their driveway

Tell them to dig themselves out haha, if they ask for something to dog with get a teaspoon;)

Once had someone visiting our neighbour park ON our drive, blocking 3 cars in. She just drove in, got out and sauntered 10m down to the next house. They were having a party and had already covered most of the road and all of their other neighbours drive. She look genuinely shocked when I told her if she leaves that there I'm going to start stripping it for parts

Party- might be worth a call to Police- they might not be interested in bad parking, but the "Please blow into this bag" lot might well be, especially if you mention that a person leaving a car parked obstructing drives walked a bit out of ordinary.

Party- might be worth a call to Police- they might not be interested in bad parking, but the "Please blow into this bag" lot might well be, especially if you mention that a person leaving a car parked obstructing drives walked a bit out of ordinary.

 

IIRC it was an end of Ramadan party so maybe not :P

I'd go with either parking opposite for a bit or just asking them to move every time you want to go out...and go out lots....

I'd do what he does. Park in front of your drive over hanging your neighbours until he gets the point of how much of an inconvenience. Or have a word with his daughter when he's not there.

People advocating damaging someone's car over a parking issue need to have a word with themselves. Have a word with you're neighbours not the driver.

Only in a 'Special Enforcement Area'. And then it is a civil offence that the council give you a parking ticket for.

 

http://www.safermotoring.co.uk/parking-near-private-driveway-what-law.html

 

http://www.eden.gov.uk/transport-and-streets/parking/parking-tickets-and-enforcement/parking-on-dropped-kerb-and-double-parking/

 

I have looked in to this due to similar issues and there is sod all you can do basically.

 

London Boroughs are different though.

It seems that at least some police forces regard parking where there is a dropped kerb giving access to a driveway etc, an offence under the Traffic Management Act 2004 as quoted by Sheldon.Cooper.  This is an extract from one local police website:

 

From the Hertfordshire Constabulary website (January 2017):

"Your local Borough / District Council is now able to issue a Penalty Charge Notice to vehicles obstructing a dropped kerb that serves a driveway, cycle track or pedestrian access. Vehicles must not park on the carriageway adjacent to the footway, cycle track or verge that has been lowered or where the carriageway has been raised to the level of the footway, cycle track or verge for a purpose of:

    Assisting pedestrians crossing the road

    Assisting vehicles entering or leaving the off street parking areas such as driveways across the footway, cycle track or verge.

    Assisting cyclists entering or leaving the road.

Inconsiderate parking alongside dropped kerb can prevent residents, particularly people with disabilities and persons with pushchairs, from crossing the public highway in a safe manner, and also prevent the residents and businesses from getting their vehicles back on the road or in their driveway."

 

 

At one time it seemed that it was only an offence if parking across the driveway prevented a vehicle from getting out onto the public highway, but not if it prevented access off the highway onto a private drive. The recent Hertfordshire police statement seems to take a broader common-sense view.

Only illegal if there are road markings or signs saying so.

It's abit pedantic moaning about parking opposite, I have the same and it's not an issue. Aslong as I can get on unimpeeded that's all that matters.

 

If you cause an obstruction by  parking badly (anywhere)  the Police can issue a ticket if they want.  

Edited 19 January, 20179 yr by io1901

If the definition of obstruction where this can get interesting. If you can prove that you physically can't get on or off your driveway because of the parking of others, then there's an issue.

 

I've seen this on my parents' road, where it's close to a town centre and people were parking and going shopping, often over the clearly visible 'T-bar' type lines over driveways. The Police attended, but wouldn't do anything because it was still possible to gain access. So this ignores the fact of how the offending vehicles were left.

No it isn't, you have no right of access at all.

 

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/withington-garys-driveway-parking-problem-11256799

I live in a similar avenue in the same area, the only difference is I paid for my own driveway. The avenue gets packed out most day due to a few young lads and their mates parking on it. I just beep my horn until someone moves and lets me on my drive. On time when I cant even get down the avenue because people have parked blocking access I just park behind them and go indoor, always makes me chuckle when they come asking me to let them out like im the inconsiderate one.   

 

To the OP, if you've spoken to them and they won't change then unless you're prepared to do something criminal just keep doing your 3 point maneuver.

 

If someone stuck a sticker on my car that I struggle to get off and I knew who did it, I would return the favor. Saying that, I don't park like a inconsiderate plonker 

Edited 19 January, 20179 yr by LHVRS

Saw this yesterday which is relevant

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2637854/street-parking-law/