Thinking of changing the vrs,possibley to a Astra vxr,what have everyone gone for after the mk1 vrs?

Nice but why ? Just done 700 mile trip o Devon in my Tdi vrs averaged 66 to the gallon !!!!

Nice but why ? Just done 700 mile trip o Devon in my Tdi vrs averaged 66 to the gallon !!!!

Had it about 5 years now and come into some £ and fancy a change,I do love the mpg and the performance of the remap but we only do about 90 mile a week max,so may go back to a petrol

I wouldn't own a diesel doing that sort of mileage tbf.

I use nearly a full tank of derv a week,so circa 400 miles is the only reason I have a derv.

They sound crap and smell crap petrol engine ftw

Thinking of changing the vrs,possibley to a Astra vxr,what have everyone gone for after the mk1 vrs?

Went for a FL Octavia vRS diesel. I didn't like it that much until it was remapped, it is a completely different car now. Still have the Fabia though

Depends on budget, I'd probably have a newish petrol Golf TFSI and spank her up a bit.

I wouldn't get an Astra vxr, Vauxhall quality lacks

If you want a complete change, a couple of sporty hatches i was looking at were the Mazda3 MPs (256bhp and seriously cheap) or a focus st

Other than that try a golf gti, octavia vrs or the newer petrol fabia vrs?

Mazda MPs is nice but high insurance group pretty bad mpg and higher Tax.  Not really a VRS replacement.

Seat.

Got to be some thirsty petrol if you're not doing much mileage. Clio RS? 2 litre N/A , always liked the looks too.

JRJG

What's the budget? Lots of choice out there

Seat.

I've always seen SEAT as below skoda on the quality list. Good sporty designs but look and feel cheaper and aimed at newer drivers

I've always seen SEAT as below skoda on the quality list. Good sporty designs but look and feel cheaper and aimed at newer drivers

 

A highly subjective view given that VAG have owned SEAT for longer than they've owned Skoda and like Skoda most mechanical and electrical components are shared across the ranges with VW and Audi.

You're a slave to advertising and an ad-mans dreamboat target customer.

A highly subjective view given that VAG have owned SEAT for longer than they've owned Skoda and like Skoda most mechanical and electrical components are shared across the ranges with VW and Audi.

You're a slave to advertising and an ad-mans dreamboat target customer.

 

He is rigth... I don't have a skoda to compare, but at least the Ibiza 6J pre facelift interiors are really cheap.

 

They seem to have corrected at least most of the problems in post facelift Ibiza, but I'm not satisfied with the interiors, you pay what you get, it's cheap.

 

 

Some examples,

 

 

1) The steering wheel looks like a childs toy, full of plastics...

 

http://airbagszentrum.com/5210-thickbox_default/Seat-Ibiza-2008-2014.jpg

 

 

 

2) and after this noise started I had to change it, driving like this was a nightmare... 

 

 

 

 

 

3) I just changed this on my car to the facelift left door is the new one from facelift, right door the old one:

 

Edited 14 September, 20169 yr by dm222

A highly subjective view given that VAG have owned SEAT for longer than they've owned Skoda and like Skoda most mechanical and electrical components are shared across the ranges with VW and Audi.

You're a slave to advertising and an ad-mans dreamboat target customer.

 

Partly true, however from working at a VW specialist we always ranked Seat at the bottom, They are very tinny and plasticly inside, worse than Skoda.

That and they all go rusty alot quicker than Skodas, and i've experienced that myself first hand with my Ibiza Fr that was getting rusty arches at a few year old, a quick look on ebay shows many the same.

Partly true, however from working at a VW specialist we always ranked Seat at the bottom, They are very tinny and plasticly inside, worse than Skoda.

That and they all go rusty alot quicker than Skodas, and i've experienced that myself first hand with my Ibiza Fr that was getting rusty arches at a few year old, a quick look on ebay shows many the same.

 

Regarding the rust, I think Seat has a rust waranty

Regarding the rust, I think Seat has a rust waranty

 

thats right, 3 years against skodas 10 year.

thats right, 3 years against skodas 10 year.

 

That's because the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.

the only car I've really considered to replace my vRS is a Suzuki Swift Sport.... with a supercharger on it!

Drove a standard one the other day and whilst in standard form it's not as quick as mine, boy is it soooo much more fun to drive in the twisties!

Partly true, however from working at a VW specialist we always ranked Seat at the bottom, They are very tinny and plasticly inside, worse than Skoda.

That and they all go rusty alot quicker than Skodas, and i've experienced that myself first hand with my Ibiza Fr that was getting rusty arches at a few year old, a quick look on ebay shows many the same.

I don't see much difference between the level of interior, in fact I prefer the Ibiza to the Octy I had. Plus the seats are way better. No sign of rust on mine at 8 years old. Yes the handling may be too firm for some in a Seat, but handling is much sharper than a Skoda in standard form. I suppose they are targeted to a different market, Seat want to be seen as the Alfa Romeo of the group,but I don't think that makes them seem cheap by vag group standards, even less so with the newer ones.

It's all relative as in my experience vag models are far superior to their competitors and is why they hold a majority share the middle of the market.

What's the budget? Lots of choice out there

About8k

Edited 14 September, 20169 yr by cchaz18

For low miles ?

For VFM for me it was Octy vRS III petrol mate......proof from any gov't diesel changes....so 140 tax.....fair economy ( if you dont rag it!) ....cheaper than a diesel to buy used......cheaper fuel.....

like a cheap lower spec Cupra or Golf R (or similar to GTI but with a boot)

 

Or a MKII but the III can be mapped to 300hp without even thinking about it apparently (not for me yet, still warranty, insurance etc).

And keep the Fabia. Ain't gonna give away a car thats been so good to me for going 10 years to just any old mug with £2k in their pocket, that's nothing.

the only car I've really considered to replace my vRS is a Suzuki Swift Sport.... with a supercharger on it!

Drove a standard one the other day and whilst in standard form it's not as quick as mine, boy is it soooo much more fun to drive in the twisties!

 

I'm sorry Jars, I just hate the name of that car. Such an oxymoron like Skoda Rapid. Ok, great for a starter car but I hate the "sport" pretentions ( they are doing the same now with the Focus - ST "Line" lol )

 

It sounds though like you have the only one true Swift Sport so fair play mate for making a proper car out of it It must be properly quick with a charger - what they should have done to begin !

 

Just to put into perspective, the stock "Swift" (yah really) "Sport" (lols) its the same times to 60 (actually 0.2s slow) then a huge Octy 3 with a little 1.4TSI engine