Hi all.

I have Skoda Octavia 1.9tdi 105bhp 2010 reg without DPF but nów I am thinking to change for Superb. I am looking to buy Superb 2010-2012 2.0tdi 170bhp( bit more faster????)but what worries me is DPF. I do 15000-16000miles a year with one or two long trips 2000miles????each. My job is to see patients in their own houses. Daily I will do 30-50 miles where 12-30miles is town driving and rest is to and from work on A road which ćan be very busy and slow (a127) and bit of town. Average spead is usually around 22mph.

My question is- I now it is difficult to say but from your experience could I have DPF problem with Superb

Thanks

I presume you mean S11.

S11?

If your driving pattern results in relatively long periods of continuous running you should have very little to worry about with the DPF. Most DPF issues come from cars subjected to frequent short trips where the engine and exhaust system is never warmed up and the DPF rarely gets a chance to run through the regen process.

Short trips that is what I do at work 0.5miles to 5 miles between patients. I will spend about 30-60min with patient and off to next one. In the summer engine will stay warm but winter time no way and if my next patinet is just 1-2miles away engine will stay cold.

Would it help if once a week or 2 weeks I will go for motorway blust 20-30min

Would it help if once a week or 2 weeks I will go for motorway blust 20-30min

 

Yes, it will help. Get the engine oil temp up to 90 and then give it a good run, keeping the rpm over 2000. It also good to accelerate hard from time to time with the RPM up to 3500-4000 to clean it out. Use a good quality diesel and oil that meets the VAG recommended specification. Lastly, if you ever are parking the car and you see the rpm is idling at 1000 it is probably doing a regen on the DPF - let it run until it drops to normal (750 ish). Regens take 5-10 minutes.

Hi all.

I have Skoda Octavia 1.9tdi 105bhp 2010 reg without DPF but nów I am thinking to change for Superb. I am looking to buy Superb 2010-2012 2.0tdi 170bhp( bit more faster????)but what worries me is DPF. I do 15000-16000miles a year with one or two long trips 2000miles????each. My job is to see patients in their own houses. Daily I will do 30-50 miles where 12-30miles is town driving and rest is to and from work on A road which ćan be very busy and slow (a127) and bit of town. Average spead is usually around 22mph.

My question is- I now it is difficult to say but from your experience could I have DPF problem with Superb

Thanks

 

Hi,

 

I do the same mileage as you on a commute where my average speed is lowish although I do a few trips through europe every year. A colleague who did the same commute had an Octavia II VRS diesel DPF that had problems - so I bought a 1.4 tsi petrol Superb II (MUCH cheaper than the diesel anyway), thus far no regrets , fuel economy not too bad and it's really refined (silent when stuck in traffic at tickover - er presuming I don't let the stop start kick in) 

Edited 15 October, 20169 yr by bigjohn

Just buy a petrol.

 

The fuel savings offered by diesel just aren't going to be realised with the type of driving you do.

 

Remember diesel cars are more expensive to buy and the fuel itself is more expensive. You really need to be doing more than your 15,000 annual mileage to make it worth while.

 

This is even before you figure in any potential DPF, EGR and turbo issues running a diesel round the houses.

 

The only justification you have for buying a diesel is the way they drive.

 

2010, 1.8TSi, 160bhp, SE...

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608317301363?fuel-type=Petrol&sort=price-asc&year-to=2010&model=SUPERB&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=sl13yd&year-from=2010&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&radius=1500&make=SKODA&page=1

 

A lot of car for £5K.

Edited 16 October, 20169 yr by silver1011

S11?

 

SII, Superb MkII, Superb Mark 2, Superb 3T etc.

 

Basically the second generation Skoda Superb from 2008...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_Superb

I have gone back to diesel after a break to petrol. I found the car I wanted (1.8Tsi, estate, DSG, sunroof, leather etc) but it was using 3.8l/1000miles oil and was going to cost £3-4k to fix. Dealers bought it back of me.

The earlier 1.8tsi twindoor I had was very reliable and took 100k miles with very little issue. Long term average was 33.2mpg and min of 28.6mpg and max of 39.3mpg. Journey to work is 30miles with 21 roundabouts on country lanes, 50mph DC and NSL DC as well.

Hi,

I do the same mileage as you on a commute where my average speed is lowish although I do a few trips through europe every year. A colleague who did the same commute had an Octavia II VRS diesel DPF that had problems - so I bought a 1.4 tsi petrol Superb II (MUCH cheaper than the diesel anyway), thus far no regrets , fuel economy not too bad and it's really refined (silent when stuck in traffic at tickover - er presuming I don't let the stop start kick in)

I don know much about petrol in Skodas. Just had quick look and there are 3 1.4 engines-122 140 and new one 150bhp and with older one its very difficult to find elegance trim. I like new one but prices start from 17000 and I was thinking to spend around 10000.

Just done some quick calculations and if 2.0tdi use (combine)43mpg and 1.4tsi 35mpg saving on fuel will be just around £350 a year/3 years £1050

How is 1.4 tsi managing on motorways with overtaking when fully loaded.

Just buy a petrol.

The fuel savings offered by diesel just aren't going to be realised with the type of driving you do.

Remember diesel cars are more expensive to buy and the fuel itself is more expensive. You really need to be doing more than your 15,000 annual mileage to make it worth while.

This is even before you figure in any potential DPF, EGR and turbo issues running a diesel round the houses.

The only justification you have for buying a diesel is the way they drive.

2010, 1.8TSi, 160bhp, SE...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608317301363?fuel-type=Petrol&sort=price-asc&year-to=2010&model=SUPERB&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=sl13yd&year-from=2010&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&radius=1500&make=SKODA&page=1

A lot of car for £5K.

I am not sure about 1.8tsi just read about excessive oil consumptions and engine failures. I know not every car but..

I presume you mean S11.

Numb nuts here could not read properly. Did not see a full stop after the word Superb and the next sentence begins with the letter I, so S1. Doh

I don know much about petrol in Skodas. Just had quick look and there are 3 1.4 engines-122 140 and new one 150bhp and with older one its very difficult to find elegance trim. I like new one but prices start from 17000 and I was thinking to spend around 10000.

Just done some quick calculations and if 2.0tdi use (combine)43mpg and 1.4tsi 35mpg saving on fuel will be just around £350 a year/3 years £1050

How is 1.4 tsi managing on motorways with overtaking when fully loaded.

 

I did similar calculations on mine (comparing 1.4tsi & 2.0CR Superb) and estimated the difference in fuel cost per year of around £400 - not a million miles from your figures. I got a stunning deal on the 1.4tsi - at the time it was over £4k cheaper than the equivalent diesel ie It'll take 10 years for the overall cost of the diesel to be cheaper than the petrol.  In reality it kept £4k in my bank and day to day I won't notice the fuel cost too much. I ignore depreciation as 10 years of 15k miles in any car renders it worthless anyway (was offered £300 for my Superb I 1.9 pd by the dealer with 165k miles on the clock). I bought mine last year (14 plate , 14k miles & 14 months old) for just over £10k

 

1.4tsi is great on the motorway. Very quiet at 70mph (60mph = 2000rpm) as sixth gear is a tall overdrive. It usually pulls well at speed and the only time i've needed to change down (to keep engine spinning above 2500rpm) was when driving through France  on a motorway steep incline (on the way to the Dordogne there are a few of these) with a car bunged with luggage and 4  adults (3 of them between 6ft 4" and 6ft 7"!)  - economy dipped below 40mpg on this journey

 

When cruising through Germany this time last year (with two adults/luggage&wine)  it surprised me - I was driving at about 130kph in the outside lane of a two lane Autobahn slowly going past a line of cars and was long flashed by a large Merc approaching at very high speed - squeezed my throttle to get past the cars and indicated right to pull back in to let the Merc  past - was surprised that it pulled in behind me until I looked at my Satnav - I had "nipped" up 195kph - car was still incredibly quiet at this speed

 

PS At 35k miles I've never topped up with oil between services (I've chosen 10k intervals). I bought a small bottle of oil to keep in the boot - the original seal is still intact!

Edited 16 October, 20169 yr by bigjohn

I did similar calculations on mine (comparing 1.4tsi & 2.0CR Superb) and estimated the difference in fuel cost per year of around £400 - not a million miles from your figures. I got a stunning deal on the 1.4tsi - at the time it was over £4k cheaper than the equivalent diesel ie It'll take 10 years for the overall cost of the diesel to be cheaper than the petrol.  In reality it kept £4k in my bank and day to day I won't notice the fuel cost too much. I ignore depreciation as 10 years of 15k miles in any car renders it worthless anyway (was offered £300 for my Superb I 1.9 pd by the dealer with 165k miles on the clock). I bought mine last year (14 plate , 14k miles & 14 months old) for just over £10k

 

1.4tsi is great on the motorway. Very quiet at 70mph (60mph = 2000rpm) as sixth gear is a tall overdrive. It usually pulls well at speed and the only time i've needed to change down (to keep engine spinning above 2500rpm) was when driving through France  on a motorway steep incline (on the way to the Dordogne there are a few of these) with a car bunged with luggage and 4  adults (3 of them between 6ft 4" and 6ft 7"!)  - economy dipped below 40mpg on this journey

 

When cruising through Germany this time last year (with two adults/luggage&wine)  it surprised me - I was driving at about 130kph in the outside lane of a two lane Autobahn slowly going past a line of cars and was long flashed by a large Merc approaching at very high speed - squeezed my throttle to get past the cars and indicated right to pull back in to let the Merc  past - was surprised that it pulled in behind me until I looked at my Satnav - I had "nipped" up 195kph - car was still incredibly quiet at this speed

 

PS At 35k miles I've never topped up with oil between services (I've chosen 10k intervals). I bought a small bottle of oil to keep in the boot - the original seal is still intact!

Is it just me but I can not find Skoda Superb 1.4tsi 140 on Autotrader there are few but with 123bhp and Basic S model

I was thinking to buy elegance trim.

Compering used 1 year old 2.0tdi and 1.4tsi prices for TDI are from 13000 and TSI 17000(one is for 12000but it is S trim)

Looks like skoda superb 1.4tsi 140bhp is rare or people do not want to salę them. There is biger choise with Octavia but I want Superb.

Is it just me but I can not find Skoda Superb 1.4tsi 140 on Autotrader there are few but with 123bhp and Basic S model

I was thinking to buy elegance trim.

Compering used 1 year old 2.0tdi and 1.4tsi prices for TDI are from 13000 and TSI 17000(one is for 12000but it is S trim)

Looks like skoda superb 1.4tsi 140bhp is rare or people do not want to salę them. There is biger choise with Octavia but I want Superb.

 

If you are looking at 1 year old cars then it will the the Superb III - they were launched September 2015. There were a couple of new Superb II's lurking in September 2015

 

The Superb III 1.4tsi has the new EA211 engine - 1.4tsi 125ps (S model) or 1.4tsi 150ps (higher models)

 

Re the Superb II in the UK the 1.4tsi 125ps - it was only available a the "S" trim although on the facelift model this came with a few goodies such as cruise control, steering wheel controls and bluetooth - I had to add parking sensors though as part of my deal!

 

[EDIT] - Just remembered the budget - £10k keeps it to the Superb II

Edited 16 October, 20169 yr by bigjohn

Bigjohn I compered just to have a look if pertol are cheaper then TDI

There are only 31 Superb with 1.4tsi on autotrader and only 3 from 2013 but they are with 123bhp S trim. There are no 1.4tsi with 140bhp.

Bigjohn I compered just to have a look if pertol are cheaper then TDI

There are only 31 Superb with 1.4tsi on autotrader and only 3 from 2013 but they are with 123bhp S trim. There are no 1.4tsi with 140bhp.

 

There is no such thing as a petrol 1.4 Superb with 140bhp (The Octavia 1.4 tsi is 140 though)

 

Superb II 1.4tsi is only S trim 125ps (123 bhp)

 

Superb III 1.4tsi is 125ps(123bhp) or  ACT 150ps (148bhp)

Edited 16 October, 20169 yr by bigjohn

I did not know that Thanks bigjohn

Is is difficult do decide younger tsi 2013 or tdi from 2011 for similar price with bit more toys

Maybe I will keep my Octavia for bit more longer till Superb III 1.4 tsi will be cheaper

I did not know that Thanks bigjohn

Is is difficult do decide younger tsi 2013 or tdi from 2011 for similar price with bit more toys

Maybe I will keep my Octavia for bit more longer till Superb III 1.4 tsi will be cheaper

 

if you have 2010 1.9 without DPF then you have the newest car available without DPF. Almost all diesel cars had DPFs by this age.

 

Not many 1.9 pd's were fitted DPFs as it wasn't a good marriage (pd injector pumps powered from camshaft) - after this age the 1.6CR was introduced

 

The 1.9 way be slightly agricultural but it's usually mega reliable and long lived

 

The only reason I parted with my 2003 1.9 pd Superb was that rust was starting to make it's presence felt - mechanically it was bullet proof

Edited 16 October, 20169 yr by bigjohn

Thanks everyone for your advices.

I am still on the fence.

I realy like my 1.9 tdi. Just came back from BP garage - 50liters after traveling 493miles in last 2 weeks what gives 44.8 mpg in I would say 30% A road and 70%town driving. So I think is not too bad having changing gears between 2500-2700 most of the time but I would like to have something with bit more oomph

Thanks everyone for your advices.

I am still on the fence.

I realy like my 1.9 tdi. Just came back from BP garage - 50liters after traveling 493miles in last 2 weeks what gives 44.8 mpg in I would say 30% A road and 70%town driving. So I think is not too bad having changing gears between 2500-2700 most of the time but I would like to have something with bit more oomph

If you're just after a bit more oomph as a curve ball why not just fit a DTUK tuning box to your octy. It'll give you 140ps and more torque too.

 

http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/vehicle-skoda_octavia_1.9-tdi-105-ps

 

cheap option and no DPF worries, plus you keep a car you like. 

If you're just after a bit more oomph as a curve ball why not just fit a DTUK tuning box to your octy. It'll give you 140ps and more torque too.

http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/vehicle-skoda_octavia_1.9-tdi-105-ps

cheap option and no DPF worries, plus you keep a car you like.

I was thinkg about this but how increasing power will put stress on car components and icrease my insurance was always deter me

If your car is mechanically sound it should be no problem fitting a box as the car manufacturers make engines so they will cope with a vast range of temperatures and poor fuel. Because we live in the UK the engines can be tuned quite safely to produce more power because we have decent fuel and the temperatures don't get silly. Why don't you try the comparison sites to see what your insurance will be. Either way a DTUK box and increased insurance will be far cheaper than changing your octy and the superb will be more to insure anyway?

 

BTW I have  a DTUK box fitted to my mk2 TDi CR vRS and it's great. By shopping around the insurance hasn't been much more expensive either. If it does increase too much i can always take it off.

I was thinkg about this but how increasing power will put stress on car components and icrease my insurance was always deter me

If you go down that route, get an actual ECU remap. 'Tuning' boxes get you more power by messing with sensor data to the ECU and can end up causing more harm than good.