EU referendum/Brexit discussion - Part 2

[Ryeman]

But on the EU - US front -

https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/europe-us-trade-deal-could-narrow-focus-autos

[Skoda_newby]

16 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

But on the EU - US front -

https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/europe-us-trade-deal-could-narrow-focus-autos

 

And what's your take on this? Are we reading the same article? Basically it says EU/US trade deals are not where they should be and they have work to do. And the TTIP that was bandied about during the Obama administration was a disgusting closed door business-runs-government mess. It's one of the reasons I wanted out:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-is-ttip-and-six-reasons-why-the-answer-should-scare-you-9779688.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ttip-leak-could-spell-the-end-of-controversial-trade-deal-say-campaigners-a7009896.html

https://waronwant.org/sites/default/files/TTIP mythbuster%2C Sept 2014.pdf

Edited 7 March, 2019 by Skoda_newby

[Ryeman]

11 hours ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

Or conversely, they're confident that 'the base' will be the ones to benefit?

Why do I keep thinking of Dr Mengele.............hmmmm

[Skoda_newby]

10 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

Why do I keep thinking of Dr Mengele.............hmmmm

Maybe because he's channeling his horrible nature through you?

[Ryeman]

4 minutes ago, Skoda_newby said:

Maybe because he's channeling his horrible nature through you?

Reality can be frightening but at least it’s not me imposing the experiment.

[Ryeman]

26 minutes ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

And what's your take on this? Are we reading the same article? Basically it says EU/US trade deals are not where they should be and they have work to do. And the TTIP that was bandied about during the Obama administration was a disgusting closed door business-runs-government mess. It's one of the reasons I wanted out:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-is-ttip-and-six-reasons-why-the-answer-should-scare-you-9779688.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ttip-leak-could-spell-the-end-of-controversial-trade-deal-say-campaigners-a7009896.html

https://waronwant.org/sites/default/files/TTIP mythbuster%2C Sept 2014.pdf

Do you still think you have a dog in the fight?.

 

re “business runs government “ I guess you mean the current cabal in the WH?

Edited 7 March, 2019 by Ryeman

[@Lee]

6 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

Do you still think you have a dog in the fight?.

 

[gadgetman]

https://flipchartfairytales.wordpress.com/2019/03/06/brexit-where-do-we-go-from-here/

 

A good flow chart which sums up the deal options 

[Ryeman]

1 minute ago, gadgetman said:

https://flipchartfairytales.wordpress.com/2019/03/06/brexit-where-do-we-go-from-here/

 

A good flow chart which sums up the deal options 

The ‘backstop’ was always just another example of verbology - an unenforceable meaninglessness designed to make some think that they were dealing with this ‘matter’ of no great import.

The Vanity Project is spiraling down down ..... 

[@Lee]

27 minutes ago, gadgetman said:

https://flipchartfairytales.wordpress.com/2019/03/06/brexit-where-do-we-go-from-here/

 

A good flow chart which sums up the deal options 

Seems like we already have the best deal. Unless someone knows better? 

[@Lee]

Can any wrexiters argue with this?
 

[moley]

Meanwhile back in the EU.

Quote

European Central Bank acts to boost struggling eurozone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47485200

 

[gadgetman]

 

[lol-lol]

51 minutes ago, moley said:

Meanwhile back in the EU.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47485200

 

 

Be interesting to see where the GBP-EUR goes from here......

I am busy moving UK Distribution in to mainland Europe at the request of current UK business.

If Airbus, BMW-Mini, Nissan, Toyota etc move out of UK and in to Mainland EU.  

 

[moley]

16 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

If Airbus, BMW-Mini, Nissan, Toyota etc move out of UK and in to Mainland EU.  

If Toyota and Nissan move out of the UK they will go to Japan. No point in staying in Europe when you can ship cars in tariff free. 

[gadgetman]

1 hour ago, moley said:

If Toyota and Nissan move out of the UK they will go to Japan. No point in staying in Europe when you can ship cars in tariff free. 

But its actually cheaper if you already have an EU base to build here than buy and run shipping

 

Toyota have another EU factory as do Nissan (along with Renault ones), Honda don't. 

Edited 8 March, 2019 by gadgetman

[Ryeman]

3 minutes ago, gadgetman said:

But its actually cheaper if you already have an EU base to build here than buy and run shipping

......and tariffs don’t apply in any case Shirley.........except for the self imposed WTO UK ones.

Edited 8 March, 2019 by Ryeman

[Skoda_newby]

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

 

Be interesting to see where the GBP-EUR goes from here......

I am busy moving UK Distribution in to mainland Europe at the request of current UK business.

If Airbus, BMW-Mini, Nissan, Toyota etc move out of UK and in to Mainland EU.  

 

 

......So this shows that the pound lost 10 euro cents in exchange rates after the referendum and stayed pretty stable ever since.  Is this the point you're making?

Edited 8 March, 2019 by Skoda_newby

[Skoda_newby]

In fact, as is typical for the BS on here, you'll see that the exchange rates now are pretty much the same as they were 2009 -2011, and some of 2013. So what's your point?

 

[Skoda_newby]

From 2016.

 

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/eur/4973-pound-to-euro-exchange-rate

 

And here's the 2015 spike:

 

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/gbp-live-today/1784-pound-to-euro-heads-to-best-exchange-rate-again-454354

[Ryeman]

Brexit is mutually destructive and nothing to be boasting about.

[Skoda_newby]

1 minute ago, Ryeman said:

Brexit is mutually destructive and nothing to be boasting about.

 

You really are a loose cannon and frankly dangerous.

 

I'll ask again, how does Brexit affect you sitting in your caravan in the Victorian high country?

Edited 8 March, 2019 by Skoda_newby

[Ryeman]

1 minute ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

You really are a loose cannon and frankly dangerous.

 

I'll ask again, how does Brexit affect you sitting in your caravan in the Victorian high country?

Why do you avoid reality in such an aggressive manner?.

[@Lee]

2 minutes ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

You really are a loose cannon and frankly dangerous.

 

Says wrexiter who voted to destroy an entire country.............

[Skoda_newby]

Just now, Ryeman said:

Why do you avoid reality in such an aggressive manner?.

 

This is rich coming from the ******* that brings in Dr Mengele to a discussion.