Hello

 

Have a 1.8 TSI and recently got an airbag warning error and the steering wheel buttons (but not the stalks) stopped working.  Local garage diagnosed this as a faulty clock spring and replaced it with a genuine Skoda part.  Now we have the problems in the title.  Local garage is going to investigate further but too busy to do so this week.

 

The handwheel will work on the phone menu but not with the "multi-functional indicator".  The cruise control rocker will not work but if the "reset" end is pressed an error is displayed in the multi-functional indicator, so the rocker itself seems to register with something.

 

Any one have any ideas as to what's wrong?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

I take it by "reset" you mean resume.
Clock spring seems the obvious candidate but it could be loose connections on either side of it.

On our 1.8 TSI the clock spring failed and its replacement also failed.  Either the parts are poor quality or something must catch on the spring and damage it.  As ours was out of warranty it was an expensive matter to replace it twice, despite some goodwill contribution from Skoda.

 

You would be justified in taking the line that the fault is a known one and the parts not fit for purpose.

Thanks for the replies.  And, Urrell, yes that's a mistake on my behalf.  Should have said "resume"

Hello

 

 Local garage diagnosed this as a faulty clock spring and replaced it with a genuine Skoda part.

 

 

 

Clock spring in a modern car? Surely you mean the rotary ribbon cable that most vehicles use these days?

 

Problems with this cable must be rare, my flexible rotary cable has been on and off my MG many times with no ill effect. It has to be good/ well made as it activates the steering wheel air bag among other functions.

Clock spring in a modern car? Surely you mean the rotary ribbon cable that most vehicles use these days?

 

 

We know what he means. In the motor trade it is often referred to as a clock spring. It's a metaphor derived from its appearance.

 

Moreover, if you search Youtube for 'VW clock spring' you will see that problems with it are far from rare, in fact they are yet another of those persistent VAG engineering failures that have been going on for years and they just let the customer keep on paying for.

Edited 29 November, 20169 yr by mumpsim

Clock spring in a modern car? Surely you mean the rotary ribbon cable that most vehicles use these days?

 

Problems with this cable must be rare, my flexible rotary cable has been on and off my MG many times with no ill effect. It has to be good/ well made as it activates the steering wheel air bag among other functions.

I think they are still commonly called a 'clock spring' simply because they are a flat ribbon coiled in a spiral?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Airbag-Spiral-Cable-Clock-Spring-for-MG-TF-115-120-135-160-MGF-YRC100300-/301713242426

 

Jim

Edited 29 November, 20169 yr by muddyjim

We know what he means. In the motor trade it is often referred to as a clock spring. It's a metaphor derived from its appearance.

 

Moreover, if you search Youtube for 'VW clock spring' you will see that problems with it are far from rare, in fact they are yet another of those persistent VAG engineering failures that have been going on for years and they just let the customer keep on paying for.

Who's we?

I'm sure the Youtube links are real, but if such an important component was so dire there would be safety recalls. Of the millions of vehicles made to date, what is the failure rate?

I think they are still commonly called a 'clock spring' simply because they are a flat ribbon coiled in a spiral?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Airbag-Spiral-Cable-Clock-Spring-for-MG-TF-115-120-135-160-MGF-YRC100300-/301713242426

 

Jim

Thanks, I can see that, but why not call it a ribbon cable - it must be an age thing on my part?

I'm sure the Youtube links are real, but if such an important component was so dire there would be safety recalls. 

 

If an airbag will not work and a warning light tells you to get it seen to, that is an issue with a safety implication. But it no more justifies a recall than it would if a warning light tells you your brake pads are worn out. There's a fault, you've been warned, and it's up to you to get it fixed.

Thanks, I can see that, but why not call it a ribbon cable - it must be an age thing on my part?

I suppose it should really be called an archimedian spiral ribbon - but a lot less people would know what that was 

 

Jim

If you walk into a automotive spare department and ask for a clock spring youl get the desired part. If you went in and asked for archimedian spiral ribon unless youve got a top geek stores guy youl get a blank stare at best.

What you're experiencing is classic CANBUS incompatibility with the switches. When they replaced the "clock spring" (aka angle sensor) did they check to ensure they ordered the correct version for your CANBUS (as it's been updated 2 or 3 times over the lifespan of the Yeti), also did they replace the steering wheel switches - again ensuring they're the correct version for your CANBUS?

 

Or did they just buy a complete replacement steering wheel?

Edited 30 November, 20169 yr by 137699