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Had a puncture very recently on the Toledo which the TPM quickly picked up and I was able to get home before it went flat. However I had the comfort of knowing the car had a STANDARD spare wheel  B)

 

Likewise I've just been car shopping with my nephew; he bought a 5 year old Punto Evo as his first car, as they are cheep to buy/insure  :S Noticed however it came with glue rather than a spare in the boot well, so the first job on getting home was ordering a spare wheel and tools for it from a scrappy on e-bay. He's now got the spare while he's yet to collect the car  :giggle:

 

 

TP

Had a puncture very recently on the Toledo which the TPM quickly picked up and I was able to get home before it went flat. However I had the comfort of knowing the car had a STANDARD spare wheel  B)

 

Likewise I've just been car shopping with my nephew; he bought a 5 year old Punto Evo as his first car, as they are cheep to buy/insure  :S Noticed however it came with glue rather than a spare in the boot well, so the first job on getting home was ordering a spare wheel and tools for it from a scrappy on e-bay. He's now got the spare while he's yet to collect the car  :giggle:

 

 

TP

Yes but would you change the tyre yourself by the side of a busy road/motorway? I also feel safer with a spare but when I really think about it I just wouldn't want to change the wheel myself in almost every situation I can think of. The very rare occasion when I would is not statistically worth losing over a 1/3 of the Yeti's boot space for! Incidentally are you still riding on smaller higher profile tyres??

Yes but would you change the tyre yourself by the side of a busy road/motorway? I also feel safer with a spare but when I really think about it I just wouldn't want to change the wheel myself in almost every situation I can think of. The very rare occasion when I would is not statistically worth losing over a 1/3 of the Yeti's boot space for! Incidentally are you still riding on smaller higher profile tyres??

 

No I'd take cover somewhere and let the AA man go for it  :D

 

Changed a few wheels over the years but generally I've been able to find a safe place to undertake the process, such as farm tracks and roadside parking etc.

 

Re current tyres the no, the V40 is on factory 225/50 R17's like most Yeti's, albeit I got rid of the factory motorway tyres and fitted CrossClimates and the Toledo is currently on 17" rims with rubber band 215/40 R17 Nokian winter tyres  :o

 

Strangely I find the 17" wheel option works the best in terms of balance between ride and handling on the Rapid/Toledo family  :S

 

 

TP

No I'd take cover somewhere and let the AA man go for it  :D

 

Changed a few wheels over the years but generally I've been able to find a safe place to undertake the process, such as farm tracks and roadside parking etc.

 

Re current tyres the no, the V40 is on factory 225/50 R17's like most Yeti's, albeit I got rid of the factory motorway tyres and fitted CrossClimates and the Toledo is currently on 17" rims with rubber band 215/40 R17 Nokian winter tyres  :o

 

Strangely I find the 17" wheel option works the best in terms of balance between ride and handling on the Rapid/Toledo family  :S

 

 

TP

I'me glad you wouldn't risk your life changing a wheel on a busy road. Of course now that AA carry universal spare wheels to get you to your destination, or tyre depot, there isn't much need for a space consuming spare. AA pick up the universal spare from the tyre depot which fixes the tyre.

I am one of the Yeti 16" wheel brigade and am thinking of changing my existing Yeti for a new one before the new model is launched in 2018, new model will be larger externally than I need and I like the individuality of the existing Tonka Yeti - call me old fashioned! Interesting to see how I get on sourcing a new SEL Drive on 16" wheels.

There are those obviously that the AA, RAC, Greenflag or even ' local' emergency callout garages are not getting to in 70 minutes or even several hours, but then those often are people that know a spare and tools are a necessity, or lots of warm clothes,food etc

But then where there is no mobile phone reception the AA or whoever will need to be telepathic.

Edited 22 December, 20169 yr by Offski

I'me glad you wouldn't risk your life changing a wheel on a busy road. Of course now that AA carry universal spare wheels to get you to your destination, or tyre depot, there isn't much need for a space consuming spare. AA pick up the universal spare from the tyre depot which fixes the tyre.

I am one of the Yeti 16" wheel brigade and am thinking of changing my existing Yeti for a new one before the new model is launched in 2018, new model will be larger externally than I need and I like the individuality of the existing Tonka Yeti - call me old fashioned! Interesting to see how I get on sourcing a new SEL Drive on 16" wheels.

 

Likewise I'm getting fed-up with manufactures, particularly the VAG group thinking we all need European river barges for cars. They need to come and measure some of our driveways, garages and country lanes  :D

 

(Not tried it but I don't think a current Octavia or Superb would get down the drive between our house and the boundary fence).

 

Re 16" wheels then that could be interesting with the ever increasing corporate approach to customer service; mind you do have precedence  ;)

 

 

 

TP

For those quoting statistics on the chance of a puncture I am reminded of this:

 

When many years ago unemployment was on the rise a politician was challenged when he said that it was 'only' 9%. To which the swift response was that for those affected it was 100%.

 

Spare for me. Need to swap it out of my old one when the new one is ready in January.

 

Bill  :sun:

All different now because people have seen the size of the boot without a spare, When (or back then) you already had a spare wheel as standard who dared to take it out to make the boot bigger?

Like many my car is my independence if it doesn't roll because of a puncture then its a burden. I will change it and be mobile again.

My Mum ran over something on Xmas eve and ended with an instant flat, she is no girl racer at 87 years and only drives locally but not being able to change a wheel she calls me, The Peugeot 107 has a spare wheel as standard so I changed it. A 1" split on the sidewall of the tyre and the rim was so damaged a new tyre wouldn't fix it but she still had transport on the driveway and didn't worry about an abandoned car miles away that still needs fixing!..

If you have no spare then where do you get a new wheel and tyre on Xmas day?

 

The 107 only has four bolts so it was only 80% the effort compared to a Yeti with five bolts and so they require an extra 25% more effort than the Peugeot, is that 125%?

Well if you enjoyed reading this half as much as me, I've enjoyed it twice as much you! Maths is great!

All different now because people have seen the size of the boot without a spare, When (or back then) you already had a spare wheel as standard who dared to take it out to make the boot bigger?

Like many my car is my independence if it doesn't roll because of a puncture then its a burden. I will change it and be mobile again.

My Mum ran over something on Xmas eve and ended with an instant flat, she is no girl racer at 87 years and only drives locally but not being able to change a wheel she calls me, The Peugeot 107 has a spare wheel as standard so I changed it. A 1" split on the sidewall of the tyre and the rim was so damaged a new tyre wouldn't fix it but she still had transport on the driveway and didn't worry about an abandoned car miles away that still needs fixing!..

If you have no spare then where do you get a new wheel and tyre on Xmas day?

 

The 107 only has four bolts so it was only 80% the effort compared to a Yeti with five bolts and so they require an extra 25% more effort than the Peugeot, is that 125%?

Well if you enjoyed reading this half as much as me, I've enjoyed it twice as much you! Maths is great!

I think that the removal of the spare wheel (of any size) is a step too far and I rather think that this one is more about reducing costs to the manufacturer than any increase in space for the customer - or reduction in kerb weight / emissions. Personally, unless it's something really special like a McLarin,  I would not consider owning any vehicle that did not have the space for a spare. 

Even Chitty Chitty Bang Bang had a spare wheel on the side to show it off to everybody  :D

 

 

 

Okay, so it comes down to this - do you sacrifice ONE THIRD of the Yeti's boot space in order to have a spare wheel, which you probably won't use, and would put you in mortal danger if you did try and change it yourself on most roads?  Downside is that in some extremely rare circumstances you could be stuck for some hours while the AA got to you. 

I guess you takes your choice but after 50 years of carting a redundant, space consuming spare around and using it only about 3 times I think I would now rather have the extra boot space!

I hadn't thought of it as rear end crash protection which is also remote?.

...Of course now that AA carry universal spare wheels to get you to your destination, or tyre depot, there isn't much need for a space consuming spare. AA pick up the universal spare from the tyre depot which fixes the tyre...

Hi all, I’m looking at changing my breakdown service. My Skoda tyre sealant is past its sell by date and it’s £50 to replace! Current breakdown service says “you must always carry a legal and serviceable spare wheel or a manufacturer supplied or approved emergency tyre inflation kit”, hence the change for one that doesn’t specify this (I have a can of Holts Tyreweld in the boot).

 

AA are a possibility and they have this universal spare wheel which sounds attractive, but is this going to be ok on a 4x4 Yeti as the size is unlikely to be spot on? Will it damage the Haldex?

Edited 1 January, 20179 yr by Timmy 7

Hi all, I’m looking at changing my breakdown service. My Skoda tyre sealant is past its sell by date and it’s £50 to replace! Current breakdown service says “you must always carry a legal and serviceable spare wheel or a manufacturer supplied or approved emergency tyre inflation kit”, hence the change for one that doesn’t specify this (I have a can of Holts Tyreweld in the boot).

 

AA are a possibility and they have this universal spare wheel which sounds attractive, but is this going to be ok on a 4x4 Yeti as the size is unlikely to be spot on? Will it damage the Haldex?

The 4 wheel drive could be a problem. Worth checking with the AA about the universal spare and 4 wheel drives and whether they carry tyreweld (or equivalent).

Hi all, I’m looking at changing my breakdown service. My Skoda tyre sealant is past its sell by date and it’s £50 to replace! Current breakdown service says “you must always carry a legal and serviceable spare wheel or a manufacturer supplied or approved emergency tyre inflation kit”, hence the change for one that doesn’t specify this (I have a can of Holts Tyreweld in the boot).

 

AA are a possibility and they have this universal spare wheel which sounds attractive, but is this going to be ok on a 4x4 Yeti as the size is unlikely to be spot on? Will it damage the Haldex?

I would imagine the universal spare is a bit like a space saver and will be fine provided you use it within its design parameters - its likely to be limited to 50 mph.. You can have a space saver with a 4x4 Yeti so I don't see how it will be problematic.

I would imagine the universal spare is a bit like a space saver and will be fine provided you use it within its design parameters - its likely to be limited to 50 mph.. You can have a space saver with a 4x4 Yeti so I don't see how it will be problematic.

Unless the diameter is different on the same axle - then might cause problems with the Haldex system?

Unless the diameter is different on the same axle - then might cause problems with the Haldex system?

TPM also?.

Unless the diameter is different on the same axle - then might cause problems with the Haldex system?

TPM also?.

If the TPM was reset as it should be if pressures or wheels changed it would still work.

But I thought it worked on different rotational speed which pressure couldn't resolve if different rolling radius.......?

But I thought it worked on different rotational speed which pressure couldn't resolve if different rolling radius.......?

I think you have to just live with the tpm warning light being on until you get a new tyre. Serves as a reminder to keep speed below 50.

Edited 2 January, 20179 yr by Falmouthboy

I would imagine the universal spare is a bit like a space saver and will be fine provided you use it within its design parameters - its likely to be limited to 50 mph.. You can have a space saver with a 4x4 Yeti so I don't see how it will be problematic.

This is what I hope.

 

Unless the diameter is different on the same axle - then might cause problems with the Haldex system?

This is what I fear.

 

TPM also?.

No TPM on my Yeti.

 

I did some quick sums. Yeti wheel is 225/50/17, Yeti spare is 195/60/16 and universal spare is 205/50/17. So the difference in rolling circumference from Yeti to Yeti spare is 2.5% and Yeti to universal spare is 3.1%. Looks OK to me. Especially as a few mm of wear on the Yeti tyre reduces the 3.1%.

But I thought it worked on different rotational speed which pressure couldn't resolve if different rolling radius.......?

As far as I know, TPM merely compares the number of revolutions of each wheel against an average of the others. When you reset the TPM, you "instruct" it to accept whatever differences in wheel revolutions you have at that moment. It only flags up an error if it subsequently detects something more different than you've told it to accept.

Hi all, I’m looking at changing my breakdown service. My Skoda tyre sealant is past its sell by date and it’s £50 to replace! Current breakdown service says “you must always carry a legal and serviceable spare wheel or a manufacturer supplied or approved emergency tyre inflation kit”, hence the change for one that doesn’t specify this (I have a can of Holts Tyreweld in the boot).

I came across the same "use by date" issue with the tyre gunge in my RAV 4 and after a lot of research bought the RAC Kit with not only had the tyre gunge (no use by date) and replacements are about £10... it came with a fabulous electric pump which is not only very effective but has a tyre pressure gauge that actually works!

Interestingly while in Skye for Christmas our friends had a puncture on their smax - no spare wheel and the gloop failed to fix the tyre.

 

We were in a remote area of the island with no phone signal. Called the AA (from a local's cottage home phone) and it took them 5 hours to get there. No "universal spare wheel" on board - they had to be flatbed recovered off Skye to the Scottish mainland for a new tyre to be fitted (and they were incredibly lucky as there was only ONE tyre of the right size in any of the repair centres within 100 mile radius).

 

The puncture occurred at 4pm. They finally got back to the cottage we were staying (about 25 miles away) at 2am the following morning.

 

Given the choice between no spare & carrying a spare... I'd go for the latter.